30 Traits of the Jezebel Spirit

The Jezebel spirit is described in the Bible in a story about a woman, Queen Jezebel, a daughter of a pagan king who married a king of Israel, King Ahab. Jezebel is mentioned again by name as a spirit in the New Testament.

Women who are unfaithful, uncaring or rebellious wives, are often called Jezebels but that was not the character of Queen Jezebel, who was a faithful wife but very evil in other ways. In the Bible story, Jezebel wrote letters falsely accusing the owner of vineyard, arranging for him to be killed so her husband could have his vineyard which he coveted.

The Bible paints a very graphic and concise portrait of this spirit, although the name of Jezebel is not always mentioned, such as in Proverbs 5 and 7. Also Isaiah 47:7-9:

“And thou saidst, I shall be a lady for ever: so that thou didst not lay these things to thy heart, neither didst remember the latter end of it. Therefore hear now this, thou that art given to pleasures, that dwellest carelessly, that sayest in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me; I shall not sit as a widow, neither shall I know the loss of children: But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood: they shall come upon thee in their perfection for the multitude of thy sorceries, and for the great abundance of thine enchantments.”

Numerous articles, books and videos etc. have been published about the Jezebel spirit. A considerable amount of the information given is misleading as to the true identity of the Jezebel spirit and the means by which it works.

The Jezebel spirit is not a demon but a principality which particularly targets people of God. That is both directly in themselves, and indirectly through others. It can get in through uncrucified flesh and fear. Highly intelligent and devious, this seducing spirit is adept at using all sorts of manipulative tactics, especially flattery.

The Jezebel spirit has the means to work against and through highly intelligent and spiritually knowledgeable people and is easily capable of carrying out complex long term strategies. It also has the ability to masquerade as and provide a convincing counterfeit to the Holy Spirit.

The Jezebel spirit is very evil and has been said to be like “the bride of Satan”. It will often work closely with a demonic network in order to conceal its presence and activities, so it can be difficult to identify and break free of.

Mistress – or master – of cunning and disguises, the Jezebel spirit would want everyone to believe it only manifests as a tarty and/or manipulative woman but that is far from the case. Contrary to what many believe, the Jezebel spirit does not work only or mainly through seductive women, or even controlling and manipulative men, but also by more subtle, covert and devious means.

As a spirit is genderless so Jezebel can and does easily take on either male, female, or any of the various forms of transgender identity including homosexual. The Jezebel spirit functions just as proficiently through men as through women and this is reflected in scripture which tells us that Jezebel had 850 male followers who did her bidding. It is Jezebel – spirits of witchcraft, and religious spirits, false prophecy and false doctrine – behind the idolatry of false doctrine and cults.

Just like the Bible story which tells us that Jezebel had 850 men, eunuchs who who “ate at her table” meaning that they were fed by her spiritually with the food of the devil, representing false doctrine, not the food of the true word of God. “Now therefore send, and gather to me all Israel unto mount Carmel, and the prophets of Baal four hundred and fifty, and the prophets of the groves four hundred, [men] which eat at Jezebel’s table.” (1 Kings 18:19)

Some characteristics of the Jezebel spirit in its outward appearance have been likened to narcissism (or narcissistic personality disorder).

Characteristics of the Jezebel Spirit

1. Refuses to admit guilt or wrong

A Jezebel spirit is never wrong, unless it is a temporary admittance of guilt to gain “favor” with someone. To accept responsibility would violate the core of insecurity and pride from which it operates. When a Jezebel apologizes it is never in true repentance or acknowledgment of wrongdoing but rather “I’m sorry your feelings were hurt.”

2. Takes credit for everything

While a strong trait of Jezebel is to never take responsibility for his/her wrong actions or behavior, he or she also is quick to take credit for benefits for which he/she contributed no effort.

3. Uses people to accomplish its agenda

The Jezebel spirit lets others do its dirty work. The Jezebel gets another person’s emotions stirred up, then lets that person go into a rage. The Jezebel sits back looking innocent, saying “Who me? What did I do?” This behavior makes it difficult for even the most ardent truth seekers to pin one down. The Jezebel spirit is clever in its agenda.

4. Withholds information

This is a form of control. A Jezebel wields power over you by knowing something you don’t know in a situation. In the eyes of a Jezebel, having information you don’t have is a powerful weapon of control.

5. Talks in confusion

It is impossible to converse with a Jezebel in logic. One pastor wrote a six-page letter to his elders about a situation in the church. The context was so vague that no one was without confusion. This is a way to maintain control and domination. When confronting a Jezebel, the subject may be changed five times in one minute. Confusion keeps them ‘undiscovered’ and unexposed.

6. Volunteers for anything

A Jezebel volunteers in order to establish control. He or she seemingly has endless (nervous) energy and eagerly looks for opportunities to be in charge of projects. Although he or she will work hard, His/her motive is never pure, and eventually his/her  secret agenda cannot be hidden.

7. Lies

A Jezebel lies convincingly. No one can lie better than he/she can. He or she can turn on the charm and make you believe blue is red. He or she always fools those whom he’s just met while those who have been victimized by his/her tactics stand by helplessly. The fact that Jezebel can look you in the eye and lie just shows how strong and adamant this rebellious and recalcitrant spirit is.

8. Ignores people

A classic ploy of a controller is to ignore you when you disagree with him/her. This tactic is frequently used by leaders when someone doesn’t agree with their plans, and they isolate the person by ignoring him/her. Some in these situations have been ignored for months, just because they chose not to be a puppet and say to every idea or whim. This puts the person out of the leader’s grace and forces him/her to either “come around” to the leader’s way of thinking or be indefinitely ignored. One is not free to disagree with a controller.

9. Never gives credit or shows gratitude

A Jezebel will rarely acknowledge another person’s actions, not even for something that turned out to greatly benefit the Jezebel. He or she just cannot bring himself/herself to say thank you or to acknowledge that someone else did something right. There are those who have gone out of their way to bless a Jezebel by being the catalyst of sending him/her on a trip or giving a gift. Yet never will there be a thank you. This again puts the controller in a position of power.

10. Criticizes everyone

This is a characteristic of a controller. He or she has to be the one who looks good, so he/she will quickly sharply criticize anyone who makes a suggestion or plan. Even though he/she likes the plan, he/she can only criticize it because the idea did not originate from him/her. Criticizing others elevates the controller in his/her own mind.

11. Oneupmanship

A person with a Jezebel spirit will always upstage another person. He or she feels threatened by anyone who dares to steal the limelight or anyone who is a threat to his/her power and control. If you are with such a person and tell of your accomplishment or victory, you can be assured he or she will quickly tell of something he/she has accomplished.

12. Sequesters information

A Jezebel loves to be in control of information. If there is ever a situation where information is important, he/she will push to be the “first” to know it. He or she seems to know everything about everyone. Where he/she gets all his/her information is beyond comprehension, but he/she can dictate to you data and details about people’s lives and actions in mass quantities.

13. Uses information

A Jezebel uses information as a leverage for power and then shares tidbits with you, often things told him/her in confidence. This gives him/her a sense of power, even to the point of trying to impress people by “knowing things” that others do not.

14. Talks incessantly

Many people talk habitually, but a Jezebel uses talking as a form of control. In a typical conversation, he/she does all the talking, whether it is about sports, the weather or the Kingdom of God. Because of this form of control, he/she is unable to receive input from anyone in his/her life. All conversation with him/her is one-sided. You are doing the listening.

15. Spiritualizes everything

When a controller is confronted, he or she commonly spiritualizes the situation, explaining it off on God. This prevents him/her from owning up to responsibility required of him/her. The implication is always, “You’ve got a problem; I don’t.”

16. Is insubordinate

A Jezebel never takes the side of the employer or a person in authority, unless it is a temporary action to make him/her look good. He or she often will take credit for someone else’s idea. His/her main desire is for power and control. There is no conscience when an opportunity for recognition presents itself.

17. Is pushy and domineering

A person with a Jezebel spirit pressures you to do things, seemingly ripping from you your right to choose or make a decision for yourself. He or she makes others feel as though they don’t have enough sense to think for themselves.

18. Is clairvoyant

Many who operate with a spirit of control also have a clairvoyant spirit. A Jezebel has supernatural help in knowing and sensing information. If he or shee uses this against you, he/she may say “I can’t tell you how I know this. I just know it.” This is not the Holy Spirit, but the help of a clairvoyant or familiar spirit. Clairvoyance may be defined as the power to perceive things that are out of the range of human senses.

19. Uses the element of surprise

A Jezebel’s main thrust is to be in control, and a large part of control is catching you off guard. Therefore, the element of surprise works well when he/she shows up a day early for a meeting, etc.

20. Sows seeds of discord

A Jezebel will continually belittle another person in the most subtle way. The strategy is to “gain” control by minimizing the value of another person. It is common for him/her to tell half-truths to implicate another person in your eyes. By sowing these seeds, he/she hopes (perhaps subconsciously) to eventually reap a harvest of destruction, improving his/her position of power.

21. Commands attention

A Jezebel likes to be the center of attention and doesn’t like to see others recognized and lauded. When someone else is recognized, he or she will quickly undermine the person’s accomplishments verbally.

22. Is vengeful

Since a Jezebel is never wrong, if you contradict or confront one, get ready to become his/her worst enemy. As long as you are in agreement with him/her, all is fine. But if you confront or challenge him/her, then look out. You are the target of his/her fiercest venom. A Jezebel will stop at nothing to destroy your reputation.

23. Attempts to make you look like you’re the Jezebel

A Jezebel spirit is difficult to pin down. If the person is near to being confronted, he or she will skillfully twist the entire situation, trying to make the innocent person look like the one who is attempting to control. As always, the Jezebel will do anything to look like the one who is right.

24. Insinuates disapproval

A Jezebel will often imply disapproval to those under his/her control. The controlled person feels no freedom to express an opinion, for fear of disapproval. This often manifests in a marriage or in a working environment.

25. Knows it all

A Jezebel is usually blatant regarding his/her knowledge of everything. Quick to express his/her opinion in any area, he or she leaves little room for anyone to point out the other side of an issue. He or she has made idols of his/her opinions.

26. Is ambitious

The Jezebel has strong desire, but all for self. “I want what I want when I want it,” describes his/her worship of self-will. A Jezebel leader will never use the words, “We have a vision,” but rather, “My vision is thus and so.”

27. Gift giving

Gift giving is a form of manipulation a Jezebel uses that always makes you feel obligated to him/her. It also compromises the victim in speaking direct and confrontive truth. Naturally, not everyone who gives gifts is guilty of control, but gift giving is a tactic used by those who have a need to control.

28. Is independent

No one has input in a Jezebel’s life. He or she fraternizes with no one unless it is to get you to “cooperate” with his/her agenda.

29. Is religious

A Jezebel dwells in the local church but doesn’t like authority unless he/she is in the position of authority.

30. Hides

We all want to believe that the person with a Jezebel spirit is delivered. The person may seem “normal” for a period, exhibiting none of the classic traits. Then suddenly without warning a situation will arise, once again with the spirit taking control and wreaking havoc over lives. Hopefully, true repentance will come. Only then will the person be delivered.

The good news is that God gives each individual person the freedom of choice. Everyone has the freedom to make decisions, to make mistakes, to think for himself/herself, to communicate, to like or dislike and to express his/her taste and creativity.

Those who control are in worship of their own wills and their own ways. Thank God for freedom.

If you recognize any of these traits in your own life, begin by praying this prayer:

I renounce and bind this demon of Jezebel, and I pull down this stronghold in my life.

Through the Holy Spirit I will live by your standard of righteousness, holiness and conduct. Open my eyes and cause Your light to expose any darkness, and help me to walk in humility and truth.

In Jesus Name,

Amen!

The above “30 Traits of the Jezebel Spirit” is an excerpt from “Confronting Jezebel: Discerning and Defeating the Spirit of Control” by Steve Sampson (pages 62-68)

Please note: If you have been the victim of one or more narcissists, be careful to make sure that whoever you seek counsel from understands narcissism correctly and gives the right advice that does not make the situation worse. Scripture tells us trusting in man is a snare. There is no one better to turn to than God Himself, who understands absolutely everything about everyone and everything that happened. We can ask God in the name of Jesus for his Holy Spirit to teach us and to guide us.

We need information though, and thankfully there is a plethora of helpful information available today for free on the internet. There are also many books and articles videos available about narcissism and many posts about narcissism on sites like Quora.com. As with Christianity itself though, there is a massive amount of disinformation out there and some of the information may be very inaccurate and/or misleading.

This situation like any and every other can be used by the enemy to turn to his benefit and our detriment. For sure, it can be very dangerous and destructive spiritually to listen to the wrong information, adding salt to our wounds and can easily open demonic doorways – something we definitely would do not want to do.

We should use the utmost care to discern who and what we listen to. and consider carefully whether what we are hearing fits with what we know the Bible says and our experiences. Any such information found can be used as a guide to apply as an aid to understanding what has happened or is happening now or what may happen, while not deviating from Bible principles.

We live in a sick world, and finding out about things like the common practice of ‘victim shaming’ can be extremely helpful to those already suffering from the effects of abuse.

Important info: A letter to every victim seeking help from therapists or groups

See also:

Recovery and Freedom from Jezebel Abuse – Jesus Our Only Mediator

Prayer of Renunciation Against Jezebel and Ahab Spirits

The Jezebel Spirit and How It Operates

Twenty-one Jezebelic Footprints

The Conflict Oriented Male Jezebel Spirit

The Charismatic Male Jezebel Conquest By Romance and Assimilation

Characteristics of the Jezebel Spirit in a Man

How To Recognise Religious Spirits

Don’t Eat at Jezebel’s Table Pt 1

The Nine Characteristics of Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Dr Les Carter is a professional psychotherapist and provides some helpful information on his Youtube Channel “Surviving Narcissism”.

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300 Responses to 30 Traits of the Jezebel Spirit

  1. Zorah says:

    Sorry, but you are incorrect here; Jezebel is a specific demon and TEACHING; not a nasty person you might encounter on Sunday. Just as there is one HaSatan; there is one Jezebel. “I have a few things against you, because you suffer that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to TEACH and to SEDUCE my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed to idols.” Revelation 2:20. Notice Christ says “THAT WOMAN” not women, spirits, traits. Jesus is specifically talking about a feminie demon; Jezebel the princess of Tyre, i.e. Ishtar Queen of Heaven wife of Baal. Jezebel doctrine is likely Marian worship; Marian Apparitions” are likely this “woman” Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, and seeks worship and also sets up Baal-worship in the church. This Demon Jezebel posing as false Mary is mostly tolerated in Catholocism, and by Islam but is closely linked to doctrine of Balaam; a system of idolatry for love of money.

    • Keith S says:

      Zorah, scripturally, there are spiritual influences in our lives. A person can have a spirit speaking thru them and influencing them. Jesus said to Peter, “Get behind me Satan.” John the baptist came with the spirit of Elijah. People get possessed. Think of it this way. The openings in our lives, open the door for the enemy to use us. I’m not saying possession. But if you are not saved, I will say possession is a possibility. The spirit of Jezebel is REAL!!! If we are not submitted to Christ in every area of our life, then we are open to have demonic influence in our life. What would you be thinking if Jesus said to you, “Get behind Me Satan.”?

      • sparkle says:

        Keith, I was raised Catholic and I can tell you that most
        catholics DO worship Mary, and will even talk more about
        her than they do about Jesus. Don’t tell me they
        don’t do this because I grew up catholic and didn’t
        know better until I got saved in my early 20;s. The Pope
        talks more about “Mother Mary” than he does about
        Jesus, and most catholics think of her as “co-redemptress”,
        which is ridiculous because JESUS alone is the savior
        and He alone is able to hear and answer prayers. We
        are NOT to worship Mary in any way, shape or form. Yes,
        we should honor her as the mother of Jesus, but in no
        way should we place her above Him or even on the
        same level. She had to get saved just like anyone else.
        She was simply a vessel to carry the Lord into this earth.
        She herself is not to be worshiped the same way we
        worship Jesus. In fact, if you really want to honor Mary,
        get your eyes off of her and onto the one and only
        savior Jesus Christ. If Mary were here still on the earth
        she would tell Catholics to stop praying to her and
        focus only on her Son, JESUS, the one and only Savior!
        And please open your ears…..if you think Catholics
        don’t worship Mary, you need to pay more attention.
        Remember, this is coming from a former Catholic…who
        is now a born-again Christian.

      • Dan says:

        They also enjoy other people’s suffering and find it amusing. They tell lies and then hold the person whom they have lied to as accountable for the resulting negative effects, because you made the error of believing that the Jez was sincere. They imagine that you are going along with their lies, or they feel superior for pulling one over on you, but in the end they will blame and fault you for having being deceived when it blows up in their face. They will not take personal responsibility.

    • zmike says:

      Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ. Old Jewish tradition is that the queen is the mother of the king and not his wife or wives. You go to the queen and ask her to talk to her son for you. No catholic worships Mary so again the Leviathan spirit is in control here. She is an intercessor and we honor her. Jesus even told his disciples who is all who follow him that this is your mother. the angel of the lord stated that blessed are thou among women. pay attention to what God wants. it is not difficult. He wants you to love him and for him to love you. focusing on others is the works of satan.

      • Ally says:

        “She is an intercessor and we honor her.”

        Repeat the word INTERCESSOR.

        Now, recall back that Mary is currently DEAD.

        Now add these 2 together. INTERCESSOR + DEAD.
        (In case you may be thinking, well Jesus was dead too. You’re right. BUT,He RESURRECTED. Tell me when did Mary resurrected? )

        Does NECROMANCY rings a bell for you?

      • The Bible doesn’t say anything about Mary being the intercessor. Jesus is the intercessor between God and man, and the Bible clearly says He is the only one:

        “No man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6)

        That doesn’t say “…except by me and my mother”.

      • Soldier4Christ says:

        Where in the bible does it say that Jesus told the disciples that Mary was their mother?
        I do want to point out that based on scripture Jesus never once called her mother and never once did He do any miracle by following her orders. Read what happened in the wedding at Cana how He called her woman and also He didn’t proceed to do what she said but instead He told her that His hour had not yet come. He and The Father worked as one. When He did the miracle at the wedding, He did it without Mary having to do anything with it, remember His reply to her woman, what have I to do with thee?
        Jesus did this so it would be clear to everyone that Mary did not have anything to do with Him while He lived doing His Father’s will and also so no one go worship or give credit to someone who had nothing to do with the main ones that give testimony in heaven who are The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost.
        There is no queen, you’ve been deceived.
        There is more explanation to this but not much is needed if you know the scriptures

      • What you say is interesting. If you would like to share your experiences please post here or email me and – if you wish – it could even be put into a blog post, anonymous or otherwise.

      • Jay says:

        MARY IS DEAD……..She CANNOT intercede for anyone……ONLY JESUS CHRIST is alive,

      • Olo says:

        The one true and holy Catholic Church has what all the other incomplete and faulty denominations don’t have and that is the God-given authority as Jesus said to Peter-on this rock I shall build my church-to actually be the church of Jesus. With this continuation of authentic faith from Jesus the Goodman himself unto Peter and now to the current Catholic Church (the one true religion that guarantees your salvation).
        Catholic faith has the holy bible as well as tradition. It even states in the Bible that all the amazing works and sayings of Jesus as well as the apostles and his mother Mary his most perfect apostle could not fit because there would be too much to write. So it is known through tradition that Mary was assumed into heaven after her death. why? Because she was more than just a vessel, she was the beloved and holy mother of God. How could Jesus just come from some vessel? He was the most perfect and loving son with no sins that loved his mother and would never allow for her holy body to become corrupt in the ground.
        Read about Fatima apparitions. There were many nonbelievers, that woke up to the truth.

      • NICOLLE says:

        I’m sorry- I am a former catholic but you sadly are wrong. You must read the BIBLE to learn the truth and the truth will set you free. I was catholic for over 30 years and finally found a church which is a bible preaching church – You are to have NO OTHER GOD EXCEPT ME- Therefore, don’t pray to Mary, PRAY TO JESUS- hE IS the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the father except through the son, Jesus Christ. If the bible said – You can come to me through my son Jesus and his mother Mary then I would agree with you but that’s not what is written in the word. It’s unfortunate so many catholics are falling for the lies of the catholic church- I pray for my parents and my family because they are still catholic.
        If you are not BORN AGAIN you will not enter the gates of heaven. so please read John 3:16 and accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior and be saved- stop praying to Mary- yes she gave birth but our Lord and God never TOLD US TO PRAY TO HER- please do it before it’s too late. This pope is the anti Christ- wise up- listen to what he says. The word says don’t transform to the world but be transformed by renewing your mind (reading the bible) this pope is liberal, accepts lesbian/gay community and yes they cover up and move Priests that molest children. After the pope comes the devil himself who will perform mircales and will call himself Jesus the messiah- Do not be fooled- Jesus rose to heaven and will return from the sky- I pray you receive this in love – read your bible because God is showing us the birth pains- He’s preparing for the 2nd coming- the tribulation. chances are you haven’t talked about that in a long time or never have perhaps. They don’t want to educate the people and actually the service is very ritualistic= similar to Satanism. Be weary and watchful. I’ll pray for your salvation and again I say this all in love. I want to see you and meet you in heaven one day.

    • Soldier4Christ says:

      Zorah, I don’t understand your point when you say that jezebel is a demon and teaching not a nasty person. ..the title alone clearly described it is a demon, just by saying jezebel spirit, that is describing a type of demon.
      Spirits are not human, and when we read jezebel it is clear it is referring to a demon not an angel of God That is at Gods service

    • Diania says:

      Well Zorah, Keith S. is at point. When Jesus confronted that Jezebel spirit, yes it was in a woman. however, the bible did not specify that the Jezebel spirit, (demon however you want to identify it as) is only influenced through women, but it can be seen through any gender, age etc. The bible is not written in the literal, but in parables. Which is “a short allegorical story designed to illustrate or teach some truth, religious principle, or moral lesson. a statement or comment that conveys a meaning indirectly by the use of comparison, analogy, or the like.” You can bet the Jezebel can come through anyone. Actually, looking at psychological disorder definitions, I would say that narcissistic personality disorder is the same as a jezebel spirit (demon).

      • Yes, it has been said that the Jezebel spirit is similar to or the same as narcissism or narcissistic personality disorder. The Jezebel spirit most certainly does work through men. The Jezebel spirit is a controlling witchcraft spirit and men can be just as guilty of that as women. The Bible tells us that Jezebel had 850 male followers who ate at her table and did her bidding, making them male witches.

        The Jezebel spirit has many faces, different manifestations, and is very deceptive and very dangerous. People are more familiar with the more obvious feminine seductive prostitute type aspect of the Jezebel spirit, but it has many other far more subtle manifestations. What is more it often works with other demons in a co-ordinated network, for example alongside a witty and entertaining demon to hide its presence.

      • Zorah says:

        The point is you are missing the entire context of how “Jezebel” was brought up by Christ in the book of Revelation. He identified Jezebel has a specific doctrine in Thyratira church. One can glean from Old Testament history of Elijah and Jezebel to gain in understanding how this doctrine operates in the church. I am not saying demons don’t possess or influence people. What the poster is describing are mainly behaviors attributed to works of the flesh.

      • Arendale says:

        Yes, the things the poster said do point to works of the flesh; but they also point to works of evil spirits. Let me give what to me is a brief lesson and remind you of the importance of exercising your discernment:

        The Bible includes witchcraft when talking about works of the flesh. (Gal. 5:19-21.) Works of the flesh and works of evil spirits basically always go together. This is why the NT makes no small ado about the believer’s need to EXERCISE his/her discernment. Even when we are asleep, our discernment is operating on the three levels of who we are: body, soul, spirit. That means that when we are awake, our bodily, soul, and spirit discernment continue to function which means that we are 24/7 discerning (distinguishing between) things even without our own awareness: our bodies discern what is a good or bad or comfortable weather or atmosphere or clothing or whatever we’re sitting on, etc.; our souls discern the same about places we are and people we’re around; and our spirits, which we are very often unaware of, do the same on the spirit plane in regard to the presence of God and angels, of evil spirits, and of spiritual atmospheres around us. (If this wasn’t true, why do you think that animals– like cats, dogs, and horses– can discern spiritual (spirit) and emotional (soul) atmospheres around people and places? If animals can do this, then humans can all the more.) In summary, we are tri-partite beings, therefore, though we live on the physical plane, we are connected with the spirit plane. That means that if I was proud in my soul (of my own flesh or choosing), then an evil spirit OF pride (that majors or functions in pride) has the RIGHT or legal doorway to attach to my pride which IS its home.

        The Bible says a lot but explains a very little. There are several reasons for this, but here are three:

        1. It is necessary for God to hide mysteries from people, because after the Fall, we became inclined towards evil and therefore would use mysteries/secrets/hidden things for our benefit and against others and God.

        2. “It is the glory of God to conceal a matter but the glory of the kings to search it out (find it)” (Pro. 25:2). God hides things on purpose so that the only ones who find it are the ones who actually want to know Him and His ways: “The secret (mysteries) of the Lord is with those who fear (honor, reverence, walk with) Him, and He will reveal (unfold, discover) His covenant (His ways) to THEM” (Ps. 25:14).

        3. It is necessary for us to learn to judge (discern) things by the Holy Spirit rather than with our own logic and intelligence and experiences, etc. Without the Holy Spirit, the Bible is completely DEAD. This is also God’s wisdom at work to hide His mysteries from untrustworthy people which Paul understood: “Men ought to regard us as servants of Christ and STEWARDS of the mysteries of God. Moreover, it is required in a steward that a man be found [who is] faithful” (1Cor. 4:1-2). The Bible says a lot, but God’s ways within them are hidden and uncovered only by the Spirit; so, the doorway (the Bible) is there but the Key (the Spirit as a Teacher) is given only to those God trusts.

        Jesus said it plainer than anyone could have when we wonder about issues that the Bible doesn’t specifically mention but that are factual, true, and RELEVANT: “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into ALL the truth” (Jn. 16:12-13). When we don’t have the Holy Spirit functioning in us to teach us, then we find truths hard to receive, even when they are in fact written plainly for us in the Bible (eg. how hard those without the Spirit find it to receive Eph. 4:11-16 and who say that apostles and prophets are no longer needed in the churches today though the Bible plainly says their ministries endure until Jesus closes out this earth age). Now, though our discernment is always functions, that doesn’t mean we are actually EXERCISING it. Exercising implies purposely practice. No one can work out at the gym without purpose or intent. We are to exercise our discernment purposely and with intent; our discernment is already always functioning 24/7 so we may as well do it purposely and benefit spiritually from it. So, yes, Jezebel and witchcraft are works of the flesh as well as evil spirits. They work together just as the Bible says constantly and often if you will ask the Spirit to open your eyes to what is clearly written on the Pages. I’ll close this out by posting a passage to show how effortlessly evil spirits and human flesh work together (please read this slowly and carefully and several times and see the distinction AND cooperation between evil spirits and the human flesh/soul or sin. Enlighten your heart and mind on how the Jezebel spirit (or evil spirits) works in tandem with people’s sins (or flesh) when the particular evil spirit has a home in (or finds agreement with) the person who is in sin):

        “And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, THE SPIRIT WHO NOW WORKS IN THE SONS OF DISOBEDIENCE, among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.” (Eph.2:1-3.)

      • EP says:

        “I would say that NPD is the same as a Jezebel spirit”. That is EXACTLY what I was thinking.

    • Donna Young says:

      Yes, the Baal spirit is deception for money in profits. While it may be an individual’s evil spirit, the love of money or profits can be set in policies approved by organizations, socities and associations. The members in those groups are attempting to serve two masters, if they belong to a Christian church. Their first loyalty will be to the policy of group they pay into, to be a member, and this membership is their security, the group, and not God. Their belief in God and do no evil is their lie because their security in a career and income must come first. The harm they do to others is the enforcement of their group’s policy, which is imposed as an authority. The group often seek a government professional Act, approving their polices and are what taxpayers, members of the public, must bow to. You may identify such groups with the Jezebal spirit, such as: Evolutionist authors, the colleges of medicine for midwives, nurses, doctors, and surgeons, and human organ and tissue banks, especially the placental and umbilical cord blood banks.

    • Mrs. JACKSON, CLEVELAND says:

      Jesus, are their biblical cleansing from this pastoral teachings as being established as a godly head in the body of Christ, as the eye of the beholder. How to get out the Hands of an Ahab Spirits, Strong holds in your city/state etc…

    • Jenny says:

      Excuse me but sorry. Sorry but excuse me: A Jezebel is totally, and utterly a nasty person you might encounter on Sunday, or in your own house, you know, your brother, sister, mom, or dad. Is a spirit, and would make use of any vessel (body). That’s their aim, isn´t it! And they sooo much enjoy this. Allowe me to tell you how I run into this word…. just by looking up at simple features of a narcissist. And why? ‘Cause I was straggling with one, this is it. There’s just no difference at all.

      • Arendale says:

        Jenny, there is indeed a difference between the Jezebel spirit and the narcissistic mind. While spirit and mind are almost basically the same thing (and therefore demons speak to you in your mind), it is still important to make distinctions.

        One important distinction between the spirit (Jezebel) and the mindset/stronghold (narcissism) is that every Jezebel (or everyone with a Jezebel spirit) IS a narcissist (and has narcissistic thinking); but not every narcissist is a Jezebel (or has a Jezebel spirit).

        The same from above can be said for psychopaths and sociopaths: every psychopath is also a sociopath, but not every sociopath is a psychopath. It’s true that narcissists ‘aren’t far from the kingdom of Jezebel’; but there is still a real distinction between a Jezebel [spirit] and a narcissist [mindset]. When dealing in the realm of christianity, a person who started out simply as a narcissist has a greater chance of turning into a Jezebel due to the ‘spiritual nature’ of church. The more the church practices ‘spirituality’ (IE. usually too spiritually-minded to be of any real earthly good), such as charismatic and pentecostal churches, the more likely that a narcissist will turn into a Jezebel.

      • ILoveHim says:

        Jenny, I agree. The secular interpretation of a Jezebel is a narcissist/NPD. They are one and the same. In other words, if it smells like an apple, looks like an apple, and tastes just like an apple…well, then it’s an apple.
        Too many people try to differentiate and use semantics to make distinctions between them when there really are none. A controlling spirit is a controlling spirit. Some people, however, allow themselves to be more fully taken over by it, while other people exhibit controlling tendencies in specific areas of their lives only. Any form of iiligitimate control manifesting in a person’s life will always be influenced by a Jezebel spirit, along with other cluster demons, behind the scenes. The root of rejection and bitterness are almost always an open door for the Jezebel spirit to take up residence and wreak havoc in a person’s life.
        Praise God for Jesus, His Blood, His Name, and The Word, and for giving us the ability to acquire wisdom and understanding about these things.

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    Beware of The spirit of Jezebel

  3. Larry says:

    Interesting. But you refer to the Jezebel as he; when, it is a she.

    • Sorry Larry but Jezebel spirit knows no gender bounds. It is a demonic spirit and spirits seek any “BODY” to operate in.

      • Dawn Montano-Allen says:

        Demons are niether male or female.Pefect example check out the movie DREN.

      • Arendale says:

        Nothing that’s unclear or not fully revealed should be used to make a doctrine. The Bible never says that there are no female spirits nor does it say that demons are the only kind of evil spirits. The Bible mentions different types of fallen angels and other spirits with names such as ‘gods, kings, princes, principalities, rulers, powers, authorities, etc.’ From my own experiences, which aren’t enough to make doctrines, there certainly are female evil spirits, but they wouldn’t be considered ‘demons’ as we understand that term. Some of these spirits include known names like the Queen of Heaven and mermaid spirits which certainly exist. Mermaid spirits are definitely not male.

        When it comes to the Jezebel spirit, it seems that it is a mixture of different gods like Baal and Asherah and not one actual entity alone. However, whatever gender is assigned to the Jezebel spirit, it does make a home in females more often than in males, due to its MO, though it uses both.

    • John Higgins says:

      It is interesting that the author states the Jezebel spirit has no gender, then turns around and uses only masculine terminology to describe it, when the risen Christ refers to it in the feminine, as found in Revelations. It’s funny how feminists claim that demons have no gender, then they go about describing them in masculine terms, even the ones who are described Scripturally as being feminine (such as Jezebel). This is just another example of how feminism has seized the Pauline congregations.

  4. 1 Kings 18 states that Jezebel had commanded that all the prophets of Yahweh in the kingdom of Israel be killed, while entertaining “four hundred and fifty prophets of Baal and four hundred prophets of Asherah” at her royal table. In other words, Jezebel had at least 850 followers to do her bidding who would have been male.

  5. genelia1 says:

    Very good article 🙂

  6. zionfire says:

    This is a good list of the Jezebel Spirit working in the lives of people. I did however feel that there were a couple of traits that made the list over personal encounters. Maybe some scripture should be researched and posted to add weight to the traits on the list.

    • Yes, it’s always a good idea to back things up with Bible references and there are other articles about Jezebel on this site which do so. Some things however like this are more written from the practical experience of many people, some under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. They are to be used as a guide rather than anything, to help build a picture – which in the case of Jezebel definitely ought not to be only a woman with too much make-up on. That is a dangerous belief. In particular Jezebel had 850 male followers who ‘ate at her table’ and did her bidding.

      The Jezebel spirit is very dangerous and conniving, and can be assigned to deceive highly intelligent people. It is everywhere, including in the churches. It is a subtle and very powerful spirit which takes many forms and works with a network of other demons, such for example as a witty and somewhat entertaining demon that Jezebel can hide behind.

      There are hundreds of articles on the internet, and audios and videos on Youtube about Jezebel and Abel demons. As always, the enemy has had his servants put out massive amounts of disinformation which seems convincing – 95% truth and the deadly 5% false information – so discernment is needed.

      • Susanna Krizo says:

        It sounds like you are describing a narcissist. Narcissism is a personality disorder, and has nothing to do with a fictional spirit that isn’t found in the Bible or elsewhere. Also, I find it strange that I can’t find any personal information about you. Is there is a reason for it?

      • It seems that Jezebel was a narcissist and by the same token it is very likely that narcissists have a spirit of Jezebel – spirits of witchcraft and spirits of religion – so that is not surprising.

        There is no personal information on the site as it doesn’t really seem relevant. It really is not a secret and my name can easily be found on the internet if anyone cares to look for it.

    • John Dell Robertson says:

      I think we all posess a spirit of some kind. One scripture says the iriy in a prophet is subject to the profit. Implying that we can actually control, manifest of conceal the actual spirit inside us. Which opens the question as to whether we can house more than one spirit or at times be swayed by opposing spirits. The real world is the spiritual world where it appears continual warfare is in progress.

      • Arendale says:

        “The spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets” is the same as saying “the prophetic nature within a prophet is subject to the prophet”. It’s like saying that an artistic person’s nature is subject to them which simply means that just because the person is artistic doesn’t mean they have to talk about art constantly or paint or compose music, dance, or a play everyday. They are artistic, but the manifestation of their artistic nature (‘the spirit in them’) is at their own control; art doesn’t take over them but is subject to them as they can use their talent when THEY choose, not necessarily when their talent wants to be expressed. That’s what it means by “the spirit (prophetic nature) of the prophets are subject to the prophets.” Prophets mustn’t always prophesy even when they feel an urge just like an evangelist mustn’t always evangelize just because he feels an urge. Rather, ‘the spirit in them’ (the nature/inclination of the prophetic, evangelistic, pastoral, teaching, apostolic, whatever) is under their control (subject to them) rather than dictating life to them.

        Each person has 1.) one spirit body or ‘spirit man’; then 2.) there are different types of ‘spirit entities’ (angels, demons, etc.); and finally, 3.) there are also different types of ‘spirits’ (a person’s character, personality, nature/inclination, mindset, heart attitude, worldview, etc.). It’s the third kind (‘spirits’) of which Paul speaks when he prays that God the Father would “give to you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him” (Eph. 1:17). He didn’t say “THE spirit” as it isn’t the Holy Spirit or a spirit entity (the second kind above) but “A spirit” as it is a nature/inclination or character (the third kind above) that is inclined to operate based on wisdom and revelation. Jesus operated on a spirit of wisdom and revelation, therefore, we should as well. That spirit He operated by was not the Holy Spirit (an ENTITY) but was the reproduction (the NATURE) of the Holy Spirit in Him. But yes, we can house more than one spirit entity (as well as more than one spirit/nature) as we see in the Bible that the Holy Spirit can live within a person and that demons (plural) can also live within a person. I hope that’s been helpful.

  7. richard says:

    I think my x girlfreind has most of the traists mentioned sbove
    she dumped me bcos of one sentence i said
    which is i quote do not make me do wrong things
    n she got very angry n just dumped me

    • If you don’t mind me saying it sounds like you are better off without someone like that, and it is better she left you sooner rather than later. Sounds like she could have made your life a misery with her controlling. Now she can be free to find someone she can manipulate to do wrong things and you can be free to find someone who wouldn’t want you to. Someone who wants you to be happy rather than under her thumb.

    • Sheelyn says:

      I’m from Nairobi and my ex too had some of such traits.
      He could hurt me so badly but was never guilty of anything or said sorry but when I wronged him I could own up.
      He was very controlling and if things never went his way, then it wasn’t any good.
      He cheated with his bff lady whom he always defended.
      He put his work, family and friends above me.
      He did good things out there so he could win many friends such that if I told the ones I was close to how he mistreated me they could never believe though later they started knowing him better.
      He always twisted things so the blame was always mine.
      I said enough was enough and I left. Was devastated but through lots of prayer I have ma peace.
      I’m now ready to date again and I’m praying God shows a real man who knows Him because when a man truly knows God, it makes a difference on how he falls in love with a woman.
      Anyone seeking for a relationship with a God fearing lady who’s beautiful inside out, write me on sheelynrubi@ymail.com

      God bless u all for contributing here. That’s how we learn amd grow and build each other

  8. William says:

    Hi,

    Scripture, not opinion please. You are assuming much and there is no scripture to back your assessment here. There is obvious characteristics of jezebel but this list could surmise of anyone,
    jezebel worshiped a false god. she was an adulteress, she murdered. she decreed in the king’s name to have naboth killed. she was obviously possessed but the bible doesn’t specify any spirit, prinicpality etc named jezebel this is a man made doctrine not the truth of the word of God.
    opinion makes no difference we are told to test all things, commanded to adhere to scripture.
    Jesus refers to a person in a church obviously exerting the same characteristics, seduction, eating from idols dedicated food etc professing to be a prophetess, yes, there is a ton of women claiming this today.. However, jezebel she is not shown as being alive she is dead. her spirit is in hades awaiting judgement. witchcraft perhaps having a familiar spirit, spirit of divination given the scripture in revelation is possible.Think about what you are saying here. how can a woman’s spirit be at work if she is dead? Jesus specifically refers to someone operating as she did. so please back this up scripturally or else it should not be bought.

    jezebel manipulated men, used them, but she did not possess them their false gods did. hence it was their false gods they cried to. jezebel being likened to a male is already in error demons are not limited to their possession even when Jesus delivered the gadarene they said to him we are legion for we are many, I’ll say they were many over 2k of them.Yikes!

    Anyhow I appreciate you are trying to reveal something but this is very general and could be applied to a ton of people, satan is one entitity not omnipresent either are demons.
    Jesus on the other hand is.

    I think far too much credit is given to the devil which in itself is a deception. she is not the queen of heaven asherah is considered to be hence she had 400 prophets of asherah.
    450 of baal her god she worshipped she was not his wife she was the daughter of ethbaal and wife of ahab.

    The trouble is we can look at characteristics but that does not mean it is an entity that needs to be dealt with and self excorcism is not even scriptural, how can satan cast out satan.

    There is some need for soundness here not based on experience or opinion because this is not limited to knowledge one has this is now being taught therefore it must be backed up.

    Thank you for reading this and I hope you can understand how serious it is to teach something not founded scripturally.

    I mean one of the comments says jezebel is real with exclamation points. that could be considered jezebel by this definition as they have to be right. no we have to not be off we have to stick to the word and teach it, if demons manifest kick em out but much is not backed up here and that is not good.
    -William

    • JuniorL. says:

      It is the gift of spiritual discernment that is given to an individual, and then strengthened by The Lord – Savior Jesus Christ… so these traits can be carefully identified and put into a list when these traits reveal themselves. When a Jezebel demon exposes itself… every-single one of these traits and/or behaviors listed above are identified in that person… do not fool yourself in thinking and/or believing that a couple, a few, or even most of these characteristics can be seen in different personality types! All of the traits in this blog belong to a Jezebel demon.

  9. There are many articles on the internet about the Jezebel spirit which include spirits of religion and witchcraft and which has been equated to narcissism and there are also many articles on the internet about that. As the Bible says, the whole world lies in wickedness. The evidence for the existence of the demonic is all around us although of course we may not always be able to discern all of it. The Bible tells us that we can pray and ask for more discernment so that we can discern the truth.

  10. It can be summed up with this “For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.” Ephesians 6:12

  11. Michael says:

    William, it appears as though do not understand the difference between flesh and spirit or demon possession. I’ve seen this spirit come out of a family member while casting the spirit out in Jesus name and so did the family member who was possessed by this demon. Truth in Reality is correct and you are terribly wrong.

    • yveclark says:

      How do you know the demon’s name? They are liars.

      • It is true that demons are liars. That’s why it is not a good idea to talk to them much. Deliverance ministers often say “I command you in the name of Jesus to tell me your name”. It is commonly said that asking a demon their name – as Jesus did once when the demon answered “We are Legion” – in the name of Jesus (so they are less likely to be able to lie) gives the deliverance more power as the demon/s can then be addressed directly. That may well be true but perhaps should be about the extent of the communication, apart from binding them and casting them out, etc.

        For example, it is said there is a hierarchy and some demons will claim to have a higher status than they actually have. It is said that some of the lower order don’t even have names. While there is only one Satan himself. some will claim to be Lucifer when they are not. One more reason not to listen to people (like Bob Larson “The Real Exorcist”) who have made a show out of it, as it is not a good idea to give demons a platform. The wrong type of deliverance could conceivably make matters worse.

        Win Worley used to get information from them to use against them which if someone really is strong enough to do, and it did enable him to write many books on deliverance. For most people it would not be beneficial and could be dangerous and it’s definitely best not to get involved with them, or make them a focus of attention. Just cast them out and find out how to walk out deliverance.

        The focus though should always be how to get rid of demons and keep them away, rather than make them a focus of attention, when our focus of attention ought to be on the Bible, on God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.

        Jesus is our deliverer and it is the name of Jesus which holds the power against the demonic. Also the blood of Jesus can be applied by using prayers which can be found on this site and elsewhere on the internet. There are a number of songs about the blood of Jesus which are powerful against the demonic.

  12. Connie everett says:

    This is good teaching

  13. Tjay says:

    I go with the scientific basis of malignant narcissism but I can see from my own family history how personality disorders are transmittable. Look at the family.

    • Soldier4Christ says:

      There are spiritual inheritances the same spirits that follow your parents and some that we open the door of our heart to. The inheritance is called generational curse or ancestral sin. Have you ever heard of the original sin?

      Because science doesn’t acknowledged the spiritual realm, many people live with many demons and instead of addressing the real spiritual issues they are drugged up to continue living the same or worse.

      We have a spirit and soul. Anyone who hasn’t acknowledged God will NEVER understand our souls nor acknowledged their existence therefore they completely reject spiritual solutions and will go as far as to label a scientific name to anyone who does which makes that person look worse than a lunatic. I would be one cause I have seen the spiritual realm many times.

    • Yes, apart even from inherited characteristics and learned behaviour, that is true and it ties in with generational curses which we know are a fact from the number of times they are mentioned in the Bible. Derek Prince’s excellent book “Blessing Or Curse – You Choose” is helpful. There are also some excellent videos on Youtube on that subject.

  14. shirley says:

    the article was an eye opener.

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  16. Mannan says:

    Could you include scripture references for each of the 30 points please.

  17. Steve says:

    check this out

  18. erika says:

    I’ve discerned this spirit being heavily active in my church for over a year now. My church is slowly being destroyed by this spirit. I have kept this to myself for the most part because of the seriousness. I am very careful and would never throw this accusation out there before the Lord confirmed it very clearly. As I always say to God on extremely important issues im asking for wisdom on “I need not a sharpie on the wall but skillet over the head confirmation please!” I have become the patsy to blame in my church and it’s been devastating to me. God has been strengthening me but I’ve always dealt with severe unworthiness issues and struggle with believing He would use me of all people in this. I’ve been accused in front of my pastor of things I never did. The woman I feel that is operating with the jezebel spirit is deep within the leadership at my church. I have watched her destroy people with full immunity within the church. She particularly likes to attach to a middle aged woman with kids and after a nice phase with the chiIdren proceeds to target the vulnerable child and begins a cruel tearing down of that child. It makes sense considrting they are easy prey as well as usually needing more attention from mom which this spirit hates. The last woman she attached to was married and by the end she was in a sexual relationship with this friend of mine and my friend was ready to leave her husband and kids for this 24 year old. Thankfully God stepped in and graciously used me as His vessel to reach her and wake her up to what was going on and the Holy Spirit gave me words I could have never come up with to save her from destroying her life for this jezebel. She is now working on her marriage and helping me to uncover this going on. I have my core group of trusted friends that are now seeing clearly that this is what is going. God has made it very clear to them as well. There is no reasonable explanation for the level of blindness that our pastor has shown. No one will listen to any of us even when we’ve tried to warn them that this young lady should not be in leadership esp of children. There are now 4 families who have left the church all at once and more we just don’t know the details about. The 4 women of the families I know are my one core trusted sisters in Christ. Two of them have been the women this lady has attached to. One was her legal guardian after they got her away from her mom. Then for years I watched her manipulate and lie and abuse my friend and her kids esp her older daughter who has some special needs issues. I tried telling her for a few years that this girl was deeply disturbed but she was taken by her wounded
    Lies. After many years she finally cut her off and she immediately attached to one of the other women in my group. I had to watch her operate the exact same way on this family as she did the first. The only difference was this lady was married and they eventually got onto a physical relationship. The disdain a pure hatred this girl openly displayed to her husband was unreal but he was powerless out of fear of losing his family and his wife was blinded completely again taken in by her woundedness that she used to gain control. All the while she’s also deeply involved in the children’s ministry and quickly got into the good graces of the leaders who defend her and cover and lie for her. She has a shield of protection within the church. Im not sure how I became the person they targeted but I did. Being painted as subversive cuz i questioned why the children’s ministry was doing so poorly. My daughter hated going along with many other children and I’ve watched this once thriving ministry dwindle to nothing and them having to putting

    • erika says:

      Sorry I hit send before I finished.
      ….having to put 6th graders with 1st graders. Im sorry to be so wordy in this post but I’ve needed to vent and get input from others outside of situation. God Wil prevail I have no doubt but I pray my church won’t have to be completely taken out for them to see it. My question is what’s the best way to talk to someone I care deeply for who is also a paid leader that this is what’s going on? I worry so greatly for her cuz God is coming to hold accountable those who are and He’s going to clean house. I just don’t know how to share this with her. Thank you so very much for your time and any wisdom I will greatly appreciate.
      God Bless!

      • You could pray about it ask for help. Also write her a letter, pour out your thoughts in the letter without thinking about it, whatever you want to say without hindrance. Then perhaps the next day or whenever read through the letter again and then write another letter, this time taking care to present what you have to say in a loving way that she will be easily able to understand and can’t be taken the wrong way so it won’t alarm her. You may have to go through and edit this letter several times. You could also ask a trusted friend to read through it for you and give you their opinion and suggestions to make sure it is set out clearly.

        You could also ask the Holy Spirit to give you some scripture to put in it here and there (the KJV version is always best).

        While talking can be difficult for various reasons, writing a letter does not involve so much pressure. You seem to be able write fluently and so that seems like a good solution.

      • Arendale says:

        Hi, Ericka. I just happened to run across this today. I’ll try to remember to save it. I’m on my way to sleep now so don’t have much for you right now. But I’ll try to come back and check it out soon. Meanwhile, I’ll remind you that “there is wisdom in a multitude of counselors” as Solomon says; seek advice from your trusted friends where you are who are wise to the situation. May God who gave you understanding about the situation in your church bless and give you wisdom on how to proceed.

    • Chris says:

      Listen people, there is what is called “white witches” that go to church and pretend to recieve the H.S., will act like you act, talk the religious talk, but the whole time they will be preying on the whole church in order to destroy it if they can. They will molest the children, give out crystals and frogs and many other things they have placed curses on to give to you to open a door for devils to come into your home. You can fight this in the Name of Jesus only. Be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.

      • Arendale says:

        Chris, you’re right. Lots of satanist and witch infiltrators in churches today. It’ll take genuine prophetic and apostolic ministries to truly uncover such people and teach Christians to discern them and their works.

  19. Cindy Lou Higgs says:

    I just read how it is that I have not a single member of my family left who will speak to me, while all this time I believed it to be my own fault. This fits my husband to a Tee and my son and daughter-in-law who are 100% in support of him and have the same behaviors. I pray that God will set them all straight. I see the source of so much of my suffering and I am in a large way grateful because I am here and have been “Washed, Salted and Swaddled” and have more than I ever dreamed going for me. Thank you for this information which is one more gift given to me for my freedom and peace of mind.
    I now understand why my family treated me like that. Now it is at the foot of the cross where I finally allowed God to have His Will with them.
    My gratitude to everyone who is responsible for my reading this! Praise God!

  20. Christiana .Y. MacCormick says:

    Hi!!! I really think your page was interesting and AMAZING, it’s just my father and brother I believe have the spirit of Jezebel almost every single one! And a few I had myself!

    I really love your site.

    Thanks,
    Christiana

  21. Bob says:

    Typical religion, no agreement.

  22. Lu says:

    Maybe the mix up is over the fact in the story of Jezebel in the bible she was a woman. However, now the SPIRIT ( behind her actions, doings,story) is that, a spirit. So they call it a Jezebel spirit. Do you get what I’m saying?
    It was nothing to do with her but the evil spirit behind it. The spirit Jezebel had, that she gave control. So its not female or male. Its a demon, evil spirit.
    But that’s how I understand it, I am not too smart. But with any spirit, lust, murder, etc… they are spirits… people don’t create them, people entertain them and give place for them. Again just my two cents. Im prolly way off. Be blessed.

    • @Lu, you are absolutely correct in your understanding. People today have trouble separating the woman Jezebel from “spirits.” When we go to Heaven and receive our new heavenly bodies we will then also be “spirits.” There will be no genders -male nor female- in Heaven. We will become “spirit” beings. Angels are spirits. Demons are spirits. Demon spirits seek bodies to house themselves in. Spirits can manifest in different forms. This is why the Bible says that even Satan can appear as an “angel of light.”

      I have to wonder if some of these men who insist that men cannot be possessed by a jezebel spirit and go around accusing all women of having this demon spirit if in fact they themselves have a jezebel spirit. Whether it be biblical ignorance, or a hatred of women, or something else what these men are doing is very destructive against women. God never created jezebel for Adam.

      I am not even sure about committing to percentages of jezebel in men or women anymore. I think that the statistics are so great in both directions along with NARCISSISM that it might be somewhat equal nowadays.

      • Pasha says:

        Narcissism is the Jezzebel spirt manifest. In other words is the carnal definition…

      • Donna Young says:

        How many would agree the Jezebel spirit indwells the ISIS members, as an active War government group, with a political agenda, that is property destruction, hatred and evil for all those in disagreement with its agenda. Prayer is a powerful weapon, please, use it.

  23. I just had a question regarding deliverance from the Jezebel spirit. I believe this is an active spirit in my church. Ministries that she’s involved in and leading are dying. It was slow over time and no one seemed to see it or anything. In a short amount of time my growing church ran out of money for a new addition which prior to was fully funded. We are left with a sanctuary that has all black walls with piping showing that was painted black. It feels dead in there. Our children’s ministry started losing kids due to utter boredom. The 6th graders were not excited to learn about God with a curriculum that was for the 1st graders thru 6th graders. 90%o of this list is what’s happening. I made the mistake of inquiring about the kids ministry decline to a newly formed friend who leads the Lil ones. This started world war 3 within the leaders and me of this ministry as my friend shared our conversation with the director. I was accused of subversion and pulled into a meeting with my senior pastor. I was accused of devulging info to this ftiend about our high school leaders whom i had never been formally introduced to, never crossed paths with, nor spoken to introduced the 8 yrs I’ve been there. There was no biblical reconciliation process followed. I proved from the “friend” that the accusation was an outright lie yet these leaders were able to spin the truth to my pastor and now it’s a perception issue. The girl I believe carries this spirit is being mentored and trained by these youth leaders and is deeply involved in the children’s ministry. This same lady has tried to destroy 2 families I’m close to using the exact same systematic breakdown using manipulation, lies, etc.. All the while playing the poor wounded victim that has done no wrong! The first family finaly had their eyes opened and severed ties after yrs of this. She then attached to the 2nd woman with family like a parasite needing a host. the married recovering alcoholic mother of 3 of the family ending up drinking again with her becoming sexually involved with this lady. As she tried to convince her to leave her husband and family. On the day my 43 yr old friend had decided to leave her hysband of 13 yrs amd 3 children to be with tnis 24 yr old jezebel God graciously and mercifully stepped in and used me as His vessel to speak truth and open her eyes to the destruction she was about to do and had already done. By the Grace of God the Holy spirit filled my mouth with words that reached her and she entered rehab that day and broke all ties with this girl. It took 2 months of close accountability to stop this girl from trying to get to my friend but she made it and is doing awesome with her husband and childrem. She speaks of this time like she was in a daze with clouded jusgement. So i give that background to say there are 4 of us that feel strongly about this. We have all had to leave out church but are feel God is not done using us I in this matter. We all had close dealings with thus girl and she manipulated and lied and tried to control. Each of us. Two of the ladies are the women from the families she attached to. I was best friends with both of them and tried to warn the first one that red flags were all over with this girl but she was not willing to receive at that time feeling she was helping a wounded young girl which of course was the same exact thing the 2nd friend said as I tried early to warn her. So i just supported and listened. My question is would it be important if we 4 feel God wants to use use together in some manner to pray the deliverance prayer severing all ties with this spirit as a group or individually or both. We want nothing in the way of being used by God in this. We pray our church could be saved but up to now the deception and blindness has been like a fast moving virus and I’ve been nailed as the Evil one trying to create division. Any role i play has to be in the background due to this but God knew that cuz the only one that l9ves the tedious job of researching infobfor days soaking up all i can to share with the others. Thanks for reading and i look forward to any input you can give me.

    • Not everything is only about money but it is interesting that at one time there was enough money for the church and then there wasn’t. Do you know where that money went? There could have been some form of theft involved and certain actions taken to distract attention from that theft, which is what so often happens.

      Prima facie, it looks as if for some reason there were demonic doorways open, the hedge of protection that ought to have been in place was not, and there have been what amounts to a series of destructive demonic attacks. These could have been caused by any number of things – or combinations of – such as unrenounced family inquity or sin, or some form of immorality of one or more persons, wrong motives, uncrucified flesh. There could have been cursed objects in their home or some connection to witchcraft. Many people don’t realize that blessings and curses are mentioned 650+ times in the Bible. Deuteronomy 11 and 28 refer. Also the Jezebel spirit is a spirit of witchcraft and it does attack churches and people of God in particular.

      There are prayers on this site and elsewhere which could prove useful such as the prayer against witchcraft and another against demonic oppression. They do only usually need to be said once each but are best said aloud with the head covered for women. Derek Prince’s book “Blessing or Curse – You Choose” is helpful and there are also some vids on Youtube.

      As you are the one who is looking at this honestly, that would indicate it is not actually you who is at fault. Perhaps rather the one who is blaming you has a hidden motive for doing so? Or someone else has made it look that way.

      You could pray and ask God to show you what happened here and/or ask you what to do. If prayer is said from place of humility in the name of Jesus, God usually answers that kind of prayer and answers it well. although in His own time and not always as quickly as some people would prefer. Nor is it the always the answer that they want to hear.

    • Arendale says:

      DistractedbyGod, sounds like you’ve been very hard at work. It’s not your fault any of that happened. I was in a church where the pastor’s wife operated in the Jezebel spirit and controlled the church. When some of the church members gravitated to me, the pastor got jealous, and when I confronted pastor and Jezebel about allowing known pedophiles to remain in their church without confronting them (some Jezebels love to have a negative environment and will facilitate negativity even while posing as Christians), the Jezebel held a meeting and sent the pastor and his apprentice, with their guns on their wastes, to put me out their church. She also wanted me out of the city and state; that was the extent of her wickedness. She didn’t want to see my face before I left, because she knew I was on to her. Her husband, the pastor, said that I was being put out of the church because she said I was going to bring division. Funny, their church had been divided several times (they’d had church splits) by the pedophiles; I exposed the pedophiles as well as the fact they’d caused the past church splits and also tried to help the pastors avoid another split… but I was accused of being likely to divide the church and cause a church split. A Jezebel will always lie and cause you to feel condemned and confused. You might want to take a break from that church for several weeks to seek God outside of the reach of Jezebel’s accusations (which cause condemnation and confusion) so you can hear clearly from the Lord what to do and if you should even remain in that church. God bless, and I wish you the best.

  24. K. Jones says:

    Thanks for the synopsis. I also respect John-Paul Jackson’s exposé on the subject.

    My wife and I just left a church where the Pastor’s wife fit the description almost exactly.

    What I find the most deeply sad and disturbing is the masking of a poor self-esteem with spiritual pride.

    The wretchedness of such an individual and a tremendous need for that person to love themselves and to receive a good dose of the love of God.

    Very sad, may God forgive and grant grace to all those people, who operate in this vile spirit.

    • Arendale says:

      K. Jones, I agree. I’ve been around these kinds of people, and I’ve had to wrestle with wanting to reach out and love their unloveliness and comfort their horrible self-worth vs. utterly rejecting them because of the poisonous atmosphere they promote and vileness that just issues from their words. There are unique people who have the Grace and ability to deal with such people and perfectly separate the spirit and wounds from the human soul, but most people don’t have the Grace to do it. It’s a captivity and bondage of immense proportions that repulses anyone who even wants to extend any Grace.

      • I have to fully agree with you on this. Very well said. This kind of love and grace is not something everyone can do. I think it’s pretty rare and hard to find a person with this ability. One of my best friends I believe could do this. She just oozes love and mercy from every pore. I see this beautiful gift in her that God is working all the kinks out of in order to use her I’m such a mighty way. I truly don’t know another person alive that has suffered thru what she has and remained focused on God’s will for her. Most people reject God for allowing it to happen. For her every new struggle, heartbreak, wound pushes her closer to Him. She’s only in her late 30s and she was horrifically sexual abused by her dad as a child, at age 16 she was raped and got pregnant. She kept the baby and loved and raised her. The product of this horrific act is a beautiful, intelligent, sweet, kind, 19 year old now and my friend has never for a second thot of doing that any other way. She then married young had another baby and got divorced. Met another guy and they got married. Like so many other women she experienced the jekyll & Hyde marriage where the day they said I do he flipped into an abusive, controlling, psycho. Those vows meant he owned her. He loved using scripture to bully her and was heartless and cruel. He abused her kids as well. She had 2 boys with him and the 2nd son was born at 26 weeks and they didn’t think he would make it. They spent months at childrens hosp while they kept him growing. He is an awesome lil guy! Her 2 lil ones were both under 5 and she woke up one day paralysed fro.m waist down and thru a serious of terrible botched hospital mistakes and negligence in not administering the med that could stop any further paralysis she ended up paralysis from the neck down. Almost dying from it moving to her esophagus. They intubated her and put her in a coma for week. She remained paralyzed for a full year. During which her husband tried to commit her to a group home telling all the doctors she was crazy and making it all up. The doctors had never seen this before and accused her of being psychsomatic. So basically they said she’s faking it. Nurses and doctors who were convinced of this took to trying to prove it for ex. by inserting a needle up thru her heel to make her react which she didnt. It wasnt understood until later why that wasn’t enough proof (hubby was still telling them shes faking) The last attempt to prove this my friend woke up to a nurse putting a hand over her mouth and pinch her nose closed to get her to fight to breathe. She couldn’t and passed out. They flew her to john’s Hopkins and finally diagnosed her with transverse myliyltis, an auto immune disorder that makes her body attack itself. A neurosurgeon said she needed to suck it up and accept she would never walk again. She even after all this said if my God wants me to walk again I will walk again. It’s been 6 years now and she’s divorced from that abuser. She is fully walking normally and on her own and loves and trusts and seeks only to live for God even Moreso than before. She is a true inspiration and her passion and what I call her holy discontent in life is that not everyone knows the true, life altering, wound healing, soul quenching love of God and she wants them to. Esp women and children who struggle with worthiness and who feel they are unlovable. She wants them to embrace their identity in christ and be free of the bondage they are in. If I ever need a dose of reality about how tough things are I just look at her and keep taking those lil steps of faith and Christ meets me right there everytime! Thanks for reading this.

      • Arendale says:

        I’m sorry about your friend’s suffering and happy that her life has been restored.

        I recently was involved with a Jezebel. He was gay; he actually wasn’t gay but did whatever felt good to him. He was sleeping with a married man. That would be something that was good to him. This Jezebel, pretending to be Christian, was vile and connived to destroy me. A Jezebel’s vileness is just beyond belief; but God has an answer for such people.

        As I read your friend’s story and her encounters with so many male Jezebels, I felt very grieved that these things keep happening. For a very long time, for years, the Lord has put it heavy on my heart the need for community and unity among people, firstly among Christians. In God’s eyes, one doesn’t have to be a Christian to do good by his fellowman. One of the commandments was “do not covet your neighbor’s wife.” Your neighbor’s! We read that and think, “The guy down the street”; but as Jesus made clear in the parable of the good Samaritan, your neighbor is every living soul on planet earth. In short, that command says, “Look out for your fellowman.” When God asked Cain where Abel was, Cain replied, “I do not know. Am I my brother’s keeper?” I believe that many bad things, including stories like the one you told, happen because most people are like sheep who are unaccounted for, isolated from a community that loves them. There is no ‘brother’ to keep them, and no one knows what they are going through.

        I probably went off-track a little, but my summary is that God created people to function best within community where people are watching out for each other. (Community here doesn’t mean a commune or cult but a love for each other so that even if you live miles apart, you look out for and check up on each other.) When community is not in place, there’s no end to all the evil things that can and do happen. When people look after each other, neighbor to neighbor, then wolves can’t harm with impunity, and Jezebels can’t ruin people’s lives without being challenged. Survivors of abuse shouldn’t have to survive or bear up under abuse; they should have someone who will help deliver them from abuse. I have to say that probably about 99.9% of abused people do not have a keeper to help them. We often hear of God restoring a broken life; what about hearing about God saving a life from being broken? May God restore His original plan to the Church to be each others’ keepers, and may God bless and restore your friend.

      • Thank you Arendale that is a very good comment, and well put!

    • Pipi Halliday says:

      That I do agree n believe to be fair call/statement, I have fallen victim to this spirit in direct hit, to the point that I absorbed their sprit of Jez, and that is a horrible spirit to have inside, it ate at my goodness it ate at gods love so much that even god was thrown from my own life, destruction followed!! I had to lock myself in my room for nearly 2 yrs(well the change has been 4yrs) it got hold of me and shook every bit of gods love out of me, I was nothing but a shell,and self harmed daily with the battle within, me trying to fight the jez, without God or Jesus!! It almost killed me, I am still in sufferance with it, I needed an army of clean hearted spiritually aware vessels with me to cut and pull the barbs from me. I could not get what I knew I needed to drive out the attributes of the negative emotions.
      I still look to find one who is powerful enough to over throw them and one in discernment to point them out, one to replenish with love patience n kindness.

      • Arendale says:

        Wow, did you say that the spirit went into you? Are you still fighting for freedom from it, and do you have people to help you there?

        The Jezebel spirit or entity has two main enemies: truth and love. While it hates and disdains truth and looks on those who speak it, especially prophetic people, as losers, it hates love even more. This is because while truth tends to trigger its hostility and it’ll battle with and attack truth, its kryptonite is love. Jezebel will attack and suppress and will often cause those with truth to run, but she will RUN from love. When you look at the insecurities in those who operate in this spirit, it becomes apparent why this is the case. Even John the Baptist had to wrestle with Jezebel (in Herod’s wife); but Jezebel never made an appearance around Jesus. This is because she runs from love and understands spiritual authority (love giving the highest authority). You will see people who operate in Jezebel attacking those who uncover her and speak the truth; but you’ll never see her linger around someone who sees through her facade to her black heart but still genuinely loves her. (She loves those who love her facade and can’t see her insecurities but is terrified of those who see her shame and heart and still love her as a person and not as some celebrity.)

        I hope you have the help and support you need there and get the advice you need here. As long as you want Jezebel out of your life, you’ve already won a huge part of the battle.

  25. jossy says:

    The comment I love most here is the one that said Jezebel is possesed by a demon. It is not jezebel that was doing those evil but the demon in here. so the name that could be given to that kind of demon that did such havoc could be Jezebel. Had it the person had the opportunity of being delivered of the Jezebel spirit, the demon would have left her, so the demon can posses both male and female.

  26. Stephanie Chadwick says:

    Thank you for this information. I have come across this spirit many times and each time it realizes that I can see it, it flees from me. I have told it you can not stay where my truth is.

  27. andre says:

    How do i help my wife getting red of it ,and she does not say she has one ,she said i have a demon ,please help me this is going to kill my marrige

    • Arendale says:

      You need a group of people near you who can help you support-wise. She needs to confess having this issue, otherwise, the situation will probably never change. Google this for more info.: ‘heaven awaits, healing the Jezebel’. It’s a site that a friend of mine owns that talks about different types of male, female, and child Jezebels as well as the roots or how they turned out so evil and also how to minister healing to them. I hope that will help.

  28. Christian Nunez says:

    Hi, I am a new Christian. I recently converted when I realized that I have been only attracting women with this same dark force. My last 4 relationships were the worse, all agnostic doctorate students from different backgrounds (China, Canada, Puerto Rico and Germany). Most showing all of the description above along with a uncontrollably sex drive. Of course people can describe them as nymphs but realizing that you have 4+ in a row as partners had no explanation.

    I recently assisted a 3 day conference at a Christian Church with Bill Sudduth about deliverance. They talked about these kind of demons, spirits, generational curses, soul ties, etc. He was clear however that the person has to be:

    1. A believer of Christ
    2. Fully confessed and repented
    3. Want to have a deliverance performed.

    The problem with this spirit is that they deny, lie and manipulate everything, so showing them like in my case even with accidental video recorded in hand is near impossible, and actually makes you think you are in the wrong.

    Andre, you have to believe first, commit your marriage to God, educate yourself with his word and what this Spirit does, and all Evil. They talked about a person with faith been able to perform a deliverance on their own.

    Within the last few months I have experienced so much. I went from been a mediocre Catholic with zero faith, to desperately look for light (without church a pastor, but simply with a bible and prayers). To been showed the cross of Christ in more than one occasion, having a white butterfly followed me everywhere, seen a white orb in my room while reading the Bible, feeling my hands ears and the top of my head on fire while praying, and feeling a tingly pressure on top of my head very like never before I praise the Lord at church singing loud to him.

    All these, the Bible, our Almighty GOD, his son our savior Jesus, demons and angels, are all so very real to me, and at my 35 I have been saved. The Bible unlike I always thought is not a reference book, but a very real powerful way to thru faith find our very own King of Kings God and set ourselves free. When it happens you will find yourself on your knees with tears on your eyes and hands up thanking your Lord in the sky for his mercy.

    God bless you Andre and remember that NOTHING is impossible for GOD.

    Christian Nunez

  29. Elizabeth says:

    I prayed this prayer…amen!!!
    I feel good!

  30. yveclark says:

    So what is the Biblical basis for this?

    • There is an article on this site. To find more about the Jezebel spirit, just type “Jezebel” in the search box at the top right. There will be many more on the internet.

      https://truthinreality.com/2012/09/29/the-spirit-of-jezebel-and-the-church-in-bible-times-and-now/

      • Where is there anything in the Bible that says all this is Jezebel? 30 traits? Where does Scripture associate them with Jezebel

      • An internet search will find many articles which analyse what the Bible tells us about Jezebel complete with scripture references.

        There is a blog site with a great deal of information about Jezebel, called “Heaven Awaits”.

      • yveclark says:

        I asked where it is in the Bible not the Internet. Jezebel occurs in 3 places and refers to two different women. Never does it mention a Jezebel spirit. You are not being true to the Word if you claim otherwise.

      • Arendale says:

        Yve Clark, if you are going to set forth an argument (debate), it’s important to define the words you’re using. You said there is no ‘spirit’ of Jezebel and that the name only occurs in three places with two women. Remember that the name ‘lucifer’ doesn’t occur often but that lucifer’s ‘spirit’ is seen throughout the Bible entering and influencing mankind.

        So, let us define ‘spirit’ as the Bible and even the secular dictionary defines it: one of the definitions (or synonyms) of spirit is ‘mind’. We know that ‘psychology’ means ‘the study of the soul’ and that ‘psyche’ means ‘soul, mind’. The NT talks about renewing the mind: “Be transformed by the renewing of your mind” (Rom. 12). It also shows that the mind is the primary center of spiritual warfare or ‘the warfare that satan wages through men against God’:

        “The weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ” (2Cor. 10).

        The strongholds, arguments, and high things that place their legitimacy above that of God’s Word are “thought(s)” which occur in the mind. To summarize, the same spirit(s) that worked in Queen Jezebel and in the woman in the Church of Thyatira have worked, can work, and do work in people from the past until now. This is not at all hard to believe once you realize that spirit and mind are basically the same. And once you see Jezebel at work in other people in the Bible such as Herodias (Herod’s wife who had John the Baptist killed).

        If your argument rests on the fact that the Bible never says the words “Jezebel spirit” together, then you must discount most of the Bible and all its claims about God and must discount all of Christianity. There are very few evil spirits that are named in the Bible; yet it says that Jesus cast out many evil spirits and demons, only stopping to get the name of one group of evil spirits: was Legion the only evil spirit in Jesus’ day because he was the only one named? This is the logic of your argument about the Jezebel spirit. Remember the spirit of Divination in the slave girl and the unnamed spirit that beat up the seven son of Sceva? Of course Jezebel exists as do all the legions of unnamed evil spirits. They function mostly through people’s minds or, rather, ‘mindsets’– those worldviews and beliefs that control people and force them to contradict the Bible. Some of these worldviews with corresponding spirits (and spirits with corresponding worldviews) are: Racism, Pride, Religion, Tradition, Jezebel, Hatred, Anti-Christ, Murder, etc. Ignorance among Christians about these matters is no longer okay. Paul said, “These times of ignorance God winked on but now commands men everywhere to repent” (Acts 17). We’re in the last days now and are quickly approaching a time when ignorance of the things I’ve mentioned here will be judged rather than excused.

    • yveclark says:

      Arendale, are you suggesting Queen jezebel was not responsible for her actions? Evil is not confined to spirits. She was a sinful woman who did sinful acts. A sinner. The Bible suggests mothing else. I am not interested in speculation nor nob Biblical debate.

      Your point about Christianity is irrelevant too. I do not support any doctrine that is not found in Scripture. That includes Church calendars, church councils, Rome and so much more. Sola Scriptura. That’s it.

      • A search on Google will find many who believe in sola sciptura and write about Jezebel. There’s quite a lot in the Bible about Jezebel. There is nothing wrong with tying this in with modern day situations and people, which can help in a practical way. The Bible tells us that all scripture is profitable for learning, and etc.

        The Jezebel spirit is a principal spirit of witchcraft which has many faces and among other things presides over false religion, cults, false doctrine and destroying churches.

        It is by no means only female (neither only a seductive type of woman) as it is about control (witchcraft is about control as in the manipulation of reality) and often works through men.

        The Bible tells us that Jezebel had 850 male prophets who ate at her table.

        The Jezebel spirit is also capable of supplying a false holy spirit.

        The Jezebel spirit at one point caused Elijah to feel that he wanted to die.

        So the Jezebel spirit is very wicked and very dangerous and should not be underestimated.

      • Arendale says:

        Agree.

      • Arendale says:

        If Jezebel wasn’t responsible for her actions, God could not judge her. But He did. The Bible suggests a great deal more than that Jezebel was just a sinner. If you are baptized in the Holy Spirit, what the Bible says between the lines of the actual words will open to you.

        There are many doctrines found in Scripture that you probably don’t support, so you shouldn’t think that you understand everything that the Bible says. I’ll take a guess at several truths or doctrines in the Bible that you possibly or probably don’t know about, agree with, or believe in:

        1. God and satan sometimes cooperate together to bring about certain desired outcomes on earth.

        2. People can lose their salvation, and many Christians are going into eternal judgment and not to Heaven.

        3. There are certain sins that the Bible openly decries (like murder)… and certain ones it is completely silent on (like pedophilia). So, is it really ‘sola Scriptura’?

        4. Christians are primarily to depend on the Holy Spirit, not the Bible.

        The last one has the potential of blowing most Christians’ minds (charismatic Christians included); but on second look at the NT, it begins to disturb and dismay many Christians who realize that while Jesus and other NT writers said that the Holy Spirit would be given to teach and lead Christians into ALL truth, no one in the NT says that a Book (the Bible) would be a.) compiled or b.) would actually be finished as a ‘Canon’. So much for “I do not support any doctrine that is not found in Scripture. That includes… church councils, Rome…” Man ‘finished’ the Canon; God didn’t. Did you ever consider that? No. No one does. Since God never finished the Bible, should it continue to be written till today? Well, I hope we don’t leave that decision in the hands of the councils that added and subtracted books till they get what we call today the Bible.

        So, the Bible is for the weakness of our flesh– to have it written out for our sakes. But the Holy Spirit IS the Teacher (or the One who interprets to us God’s language or words which is for us the Bible) and IS the primary One given to us from the Father Himself. Anyone can read and memorize the Bible; but the Holy Spirit writes the entire Word on our hearts so that “you do not have need that anyone should teach you” (see 1Jn. 2:20, 26-27) nor do we necessarily need a Bible. So, next time you say, “Sola Scriptura”, just know that sola scriptura the way so many seem to use it isn’t scriptura(l) at all.

        All that said, if a tree falls in the forest with no one around, it makes a sound whether or not one hears it. In the same way the truth is the truth and doesn’t need people or things to acknowledge it before it becomes truth: there certainly is such a thing as a Jezebel spirit which is more a conglomerate of wicked and disgusting evil spirits than just one entity. The most ardent unbeliever in the Jezebel spirit needs only to visit at least charismatic churches across America with notepad and pen (or laptop) in hand; as long as he/she is honest, they would eventually come to recognize and record the presence, influence, and effects of this spirit in so many churches. The Bible has already recorded evidence of this, but when it comes to truth, everyone believes or denies it according to their own faith and free will.

      • yveclark says:

        I found your reply in my email but it has gone merged from here. It ignored the question and addressed an unrelated issue. The question needs about answer.

      • Arendale says:

        Are you addressing me? If so, repeat your question in simple format. If I respond by going what you think is off-topic, it’s for a reason. Some people can’t hear truth straight forward; you give them a question for their question instead of an answer so they can answer their own question. Jesus did this all the time, and it still separates those who want truth from those who don’t.

      • @Yveclark- there was no ‘reply’ button on your above question about where the basis for this is in the Bible so I am making a reply here. Maybe this will help to explain some things. The answer is that the Bible does not provide a list of all names for demons, but we know they have names because of Jesus’s example in calling them out. Sometimes “names” refers to ‘lying’ spirits, or the spirit of murder, or ‘sexual’ spirits…. like this. But as noted above Jesus called out “Legion” which means a “multitude.”

        The writer of this website gave an excellent explanation above about casting out demons. If preachers today were teaching how to cast out demon spirits instead of submitting to them, or trying to run from them then there would not be so much ignorance on the subject.

        People need to learn of our spiritual enemy instead of ignoring it. Those who ignore the Devil, his demons and the powers he uses against us wind up being deceived and controlled by the Devil. One should never play around with the Devil and his demons. You learn to take spiritual authority “IN THE NAME OF JESUS” and to cast the ole boy out- out of your home, out of your life, and out of people. Demons shrug at the Name and Authority of Jesus Christ. That is how one defeats the Devil. However, the Bible also warns us that it is not enough to just cast these demons out. If people are not cleaning up their lives, their homes, their temple (own bodies) of everything that leaves an open door for these spirits to return then these spirits will return and it will be 7 times worse than before. I just do not have the time to look up this scripture but it’s in the Bible. What this means is that if people do not clean house and close every door to the Devil and his demons that when these spirits return then there will not likely be any opportunity to ever be free again.

        Cleaning house means to throw out the garbage music, magazines, books, movies, television, pornography, occult paraphrenalia. If there is a problem with the tongue ask the Lord for help. If there is a problem with a filthy mind, then ask the Lord for help, and so forth. Peoples homes and lives today are filled with all kinds of filth, especially church goers because it is the Devil’s plan to infiltrate the church with filth. People have become DESENSITIZED to what filth is. The best way to take care of this is to ask the Lord to show you what has to go BUT a person has to be willing to OBEY the Lord instead of making excuses to do what they want.

        I did not intend to write so much. It just comes to me. Maybe something I have written will be helpful to someone.

      • Donna Young says:

        The USA is having an election and those living outside the USA are very concerned an evil spirit indwells in at least two of those running for the office of President. We read of strange deaths surrounding one candidate, called a liar. And the other one seems to have sex gender attitude that women are made for a male’s sexual play thing. In God we Trust who is best to lead America, and there will be due diligence in daily prayers, for God’s guidance at the election polls, and the count will be honest.

      • Arendale says:

        The Jezebel spirit is behind far more people and things than most of us (including myself) are aware of right now, I believe. It’s a global thing and is hard to define since it isn’t confined to ‘spirits on the ground’ that enter people but is more often ‘spirits in the air’/heavenly places with links (like umbilical cords) connected to people on earth through whom they then function. As for the presidential candidates, neither candidate is good. The world is coming to an end as we know it, and both candidates are lucifer’s hands (as Obama was) to continue to drive it in that direction.

  31. How come no one ever considers the victims that the jezebel alienates and destroys? I have been screaming to the top of my lungs for several years now trying to communicate with another human being and all I ever receive is silence.

    There was NO ONE who ever came to my side while JEZEBELS ran me down. Everybody has submitted to the jezebels.

    So many men get all defensive when you say that men too can have jezebel spirits. The way the Bible describes the antichrist I would say that this coming world leader who will be the Antichrist will also have a jezebel spirit. I imagine that the White House is full of them including other world leaders. Probably some of the men who are so angered about this also have a jezebel spirit themselves. They just do not want to be caught. It is always so much easier to blame the woman for whatever they do wrong than to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for their pathetic behaviors. Genuine Christian men will not shame God or women. Controlling women, humiliating them, treating them like trash is NOT the behavior of a Christian.

    Once jezebel men destroy a woman, and destroy her reputation, and not a soul will have anything to do with her then what? You see, there is nothing anywhere about recovering from the damage of a man’s destruction. And with the increase in homosexuality today the jezebel spirit can only increase within homosexuality. I also believe that pornography is heavily involved in this tearing down of the Christian men in our society.

    And for those who are still reading the books written by false prophets, the NAR witches, and involved in the cults with false prophets then you are already submitted to jezebels.

    • Tjay says:

      I’m sorry you had to go through this. A lot of us have. I recommend Smakintosh on YouTube. He talks about the malignant narcissist personality, which we think is the same thing. They bewitch entire families, neighbourhoods, communities. What they do is pure witchcraft.

  32. @Tjay- thank you. I will look up that video. I have no doubt that narcissism lives within the jezebel spirit. The way the Bible describes how people will be in the last days I would say also describes narcissism. These word of faith, prosperity people are obsessed with occult teachings. They remind me of the little boys from the classic story “Lord of the Flies” who turned into savages but could not see what was happening to them until they were captured.

    I wish that I could meet other people who are going through the same things that I am. I have not been successful in meeting anyone. There is no one helping the scattered and battered sheep.

    • Arendale says:

      Hi there. You said you wish you could meet people who are going through the same things as you. Several questions:

      1. What things are you going through?

      2. Where in the world are you located?

      3. What has the Lord told you about your isolation?

      I was isolated for twelve years from any meaningful fellowship. Only this past Dec. 18th did I meet a believer who seems to genuinely want to follow the Lord, connect with other genuine believers, serve under a genuine and godly spiritual mentor/father, and be equipped and prepared for the ministry God has called him to. That’s just what I’ve been needing and looking for. I believe that while it is sometimes God’s will that we be alone for a season, it is never His will that we be isolated or remain alone. We see this first in Adam who was alone, as far as likeminded fellowship (a human being and not only God and animals), until God said it was no longer good and gave him another human being to have both fellowship (camaraderie) and intimacy (friendship, being known) with. One of the things the Lord is calling me to is connecting and networking people. It isn’t good for people to be alone but to be assembled in some fellowship or another so as, among other things, to avoid deception as well as satan’s attacks which are greater when one is alone. Not till I met this friend several days ago did I begin to sense a sort of acceleration– a sense that God will work faster and things will progress faster in my (and his) life because we are no longer individuals; we’ll actually begin seeing returns and answers and victories:

      “Two are better than one, because they have a good reward for their labor. For if they fall, one will lift up his companion. But woe to him who is alone when he falls, for he has no one to help him up. Again, if two lie down together, they will keep warm; but how can one be warm alone? Though one may be overpowered by another, two can withstand him. And a threefold cord is not quickly broken” (Eccl. 4:9-12).

      God created the above principle, therefore, it’s His will that people walk together– two or more– in fellowship. If you can share some things, I may be able to pray with or help you connect somewhere. God bless and keep you in the meantime.

      • @Arendale

        1. What things are you going through? I have been shunned
        2. Where in the world are you located? U.S.
        3. What has the Lord told you about your isolation? It has been a period of waking up to the truth and getting my own life in order to meet the Lord. I have come out of a cult with false prophets and false doctrines of the word of faith and prosperity garbage.

        I totally agree with what you said regarding Ecclesiastes 4:9-12. And the other scripture about believers assembling together (don’t have time now to look it up) has never meant so much to me as it does now. I have been told that this shunning is going on everywhere now but those of us who have separated from the churches (a.k.a. religious services of organized religion) need to be in fellowship with each other. Satan is using jezebel to break up the church, relationships, and families. Narcissism dominates these churches today.

        I believe that I was the first person to ever post these 30 characteristics of jezebel on my website. It was way back, maybe as far as 2005 or ’07 that I posted these characteristics. Many people copied them, but after I was attacked by jezebel false prophets I received a threat from Sampson’s publisher to remove these characteristics from my website. It is looking like another personal attack on me because it was just one of several things hatched by jezebels to silence me.

        Any more personal details I prefer to keep in private mail. If you or someone would like to reach me then please go to my website mail page http://www.propheciesofrevelation.org/feedbackform.html

      • Arendale says:

        I understand where you are. Sorry it’s been a long time. I just heard a song that I’ll share here and hope it will encourage someone here.

        I agree with you and have felt that same way– that many of us have been shunned, rejected, pushed out. The average church structure or Christian group is following after ‘another Jesus’ and shuns people who want to follow the real one. Charismatics are especially guilty of this. But as you said, I also feel that those who have been pushed out need to gather together in their respective towns, cities, states, etc. Jezebel loathes anything that has the scent of righteousness or rightness on it and definitely is at work in the churches. Sorry that ‘she’s’ been at you; she’s been at me probably since before birth but definitely has been ‘the executor of intention’ for satan against me. I’ve sent you an email. We can talk more privately. The way is narrow and difficult, and few find it.

  33. LovefreedomJustice says:

    This is great and pretty much hits the nail on the head. I have seen this spirit manifest so many times in numerous peoples lives. I know I have submitted to it too and have had to repent.

    To add onto 18:

    18. Is clairvoyant
    Many who operate out of this spirit of control also have a clairvoyant spirit. A Jezebel has supernatural help in knowning and sensing information. If he uses this against you, he may say “I can’t tell you how I know this. I just know it.” This is not the Holy Spirit, but the help of a clairvoyant or familiar spirit. Clairvoyance may be defined as the power to perceive things that are out of the range of human senses.

    People who use the Holy Spirit’s name in vain to say “oh I know this because God told me” leads into pride. Not only are they listening to a familiar spirit but sometimes what they “see” is clouded judgment so their clairvoyance is false. I don’t believe a demon can give one accurate discernment, only God can.

    I have had to fight bitterness in my life recently. Because lately, I’ve had my in-laws who boast and brag about being “feelers” and being able to see things that I can’t see because they’re “gifted” in this gift of discernment. But when you look at their fruit in their life, it’s fruit that 100% exemplifies the spirit of Jezebel. It is NOT Holy Spirit. So that’s how I know that their “discernment” is clouded.
    Ugh and it makes me soo bitter because they look down on me, thinking I can’t see things that they can.And THEN they try to call me out on “darkness” in my life that doesn’t even exist. I’ve never had to deal with this sort of behavior. And I don’t want to be bitter. I know I have to constantly ask for the blood of Jesus to wash me away from these negative emotions I feel from being around this behavior.

    WOW I’ve said a lot on this post but I’m glad I got it out. This was cathartic for me LOL.

    Bless you!

    • @LovefreedomJustice I have seen the same things that you describe. It sounds like your relatives could be listening to false prophets? I speculate on this because I have heard all the very same things from people I knew involved with these NAR false prophets. These false prophets convince people that they are the ones who know it all, that they are the ones with the spiritual discernment and insight. These people have ripped me up one side and down the other with all sorts of lies but what really stirred the anger was when my mother who had better spiritual discernment than myself called this false prophet out and said he was false. All hell broke loose. The whirlwind of chaos brought against me kept me confused for so long but when I look at these people now and then look at myself where I am it is crystal clear. I mean, these people who ‘think’ they are so much more spiritual, wiser and smarter are the ones who following false doctrines, allowing witchcraft into their lives, and full of hatred. I am alone (with my mother) but the Lord is protecting us from all the pollution in the church and the world so that we can keep the truth that we know and believe and keep focused on the Lord and His coming….not the things of this world or people. Someone told me once that the Lord is preparing a remnant and that He has something for us to do until He comes. I believe that. The small remnant is the true believers who are seeking the narrow path, and that path is very narrow. The wide road seeks the new age philosophies and theologies of signs, wonders and miracles, magic, supernatural manifestations. Their ‘god’ is a ‘genie.’

      • Arendale says:

        Truth. Prophecies, you posted something that showed up in my email from this site but I can’t see it here. You mentioned male Jezebels in it. I’ve known one man who had both a Jezebel and an Ahab spirit at work in him. This gave him a multiplied ability to trick and deceive people which he loved doing. At least one woman heard from ‘God’, she thought, telling her to marry this man. I’ve found that women can have a Jezebel spirit and a eunuch spirit but can’t have an Ahab spirit. That means women can have two types of spirits that concern ‘the Jezebel trio’ (Jezebel, Ahab, Eunuch spirits). Men can have two times more: men can have a Jezebel, Eunuch, and Ahab spirits AND an Ahab mindset. Women can only have Jezebel and Eunuch.

        Here are three links to very good teachings on at least three male renditions of Jezebel when Jezebel manifests in a man:

        1. Charismatic Jezebel: https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/the-charismatic-male-jezebel-conquest-by-romance-and-assimilation/

        2. Warring Jezebel: https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/the-conflict-oriented-male-jezebel/

        3. Minister Jezebel: https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/the-jezebel-minister/

        There is also the Peter Pan Jezebel (https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/the-peter-pan-jezebel/) which is juvenile narcissism or the Jezebel spirit in child form; both females and males can have it.

        And yes, I believe that many men who seek to control women by accusing them of having Jezebel do have Jezebels themselves or, at the least, a very bad controlling spirit.

      • Carmen says:

        Thank you for sharing God bless you and your mother stay strong in the Lord and the power of his might

  34. Glen says:

    Yes I marred a women that has all trates.of a Jezebel spirt I. Returned. Back to her 4 Times from the. Months of. January. February. March april. May .the spirt. Was gone.we love each other.like out of this world.the kids enjoyed bible. Study. Each week.life was good.then June things would start happying. Again she seemed. To have.two different People. Going on in side..it got so bad.she would throw. Me.in jail. The last time with her I told her if I come back things will be.God and family.two. months back with.her. I sufed. A heat stock.I ask her if she was a jezsble.she look at me .with s look I have never seen in her.and. said. No.I ask God to help.as I was praying.she said to me. Don’t bring. Him in to it.then I know. What I was dealing. With .I had to leave her again. Now I am living my life with Jesus. And. His father.there a lot of things I have experience.with this demon.I haven’t. Told anyone.all I can say I’d I thank Jesus. Chist. For getting me away from it.I still love my wife.what do I do.I leave. It in gods hands.

    • Arendale says:

      Sorry to hear, Glen. The Jezebel spirit is a murderer/murderess. There’s really no rescuing it. I believe that maybe 90% or more of all people who mature in a Jezebel spirit will never let Jesus save them. Sorry that you had to go through that.

  35. tracy says:

    Am I possessed if I think I’m a psychic with spirit guides? I know they get things wrong but they do tell me things that are sometimes right. They talk to me and give me advice. I ask them what I should do and they guide me. Someone once said I was possessed, I have done some evil things in my life, had tarot cards and other occult things, I have books on the subject and developed my spiritualism powers but does this mean I’m possessed? My childhood was traumatic, having been in foster care as my parents couldn’t cope, I was kicked out when I was 16. I fell pregnant to a man older than me, I lost custody of my son as the state granted my ex custody due to diminished responsibility and my then lack of ability to support my son, I planned and got revenge on my ex although I have been in trouble for stalking other boyfriends. I was hospitalised for mental reasons, I’ve tried to commit suicide more than once. I take drugs but not hard drugs anymore just marijuana I’ve been involved with occult things for a long time and believe that I have guides. I have tried religion but it really doesn’t do it for me although I do believe in god. I know what I do is anti-christian but does it mean I’m possessed or am I just a subject of bad parenting and abuse? Someone said that I’m involved with Lucifer and I’m preaching evil, are they right? I need help and advice. I have phoned the Samaritan helpline but they can’t really help me. Can you please help or pray for me?

    • Jesus saves and would never judge us unfairly as humans tend to do. No one could ever understand and love us like God does. As the Bible says, we are all conceived in sin, and the whole world lies in wickedness and we all need to be saved. The Bible tells us there is no other name by which men must be saved but the name of Jesus. God only asks that we believe in His Son Jesus and that He is the Christ and we are saved by grace. Jesus asks us not to just listen to what He says but to do all that he says. If we love Him, we will listen to what He says and do it. It doesn’t matter what our past is. There is no sin that is too great to be covered by the blood. The Bible is clear that no one has the right to judge another because only God knows the real truth of a matter. The parables that Jesus told help us to understand more clearly.

      Luke 18:9-14

      The Bible warns us over and over again to carefully keep away from following false teachers of which there are many. Churches have been infiltrated and many have lost their way and are leading many astray. In this Bible passage we are warned against following particular preachers or church denominations.

      1 Corinthians 3

      Milton Green was one of the few who were truly inspired by God and there are many of his vids on Youtube. He wrote excellent book called “The Great Falling Away Today” which is linked to at the foot of this page.

      With regard to coming out of the occult, that is something many including Christians do not understand, nor often do they know how to deal with those coming out of the occult. So it’s important especially in these days when so much is difficult to navigate, not to expect too much from people but to look to God and Jesus and Our Helper, the Holy Spirit.

      With some effort, it should be possible for most to find a good pastor who can talk with you and pray for you, and comfort you without judging. Primarily through God’s word, the (KJV) Bible, we should turn to God. through His Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, and repent.

    • Arendale says:

      Hi. Sorry about your struggles. Lots of people have spirit guides or/and familiar spirits. Many are born with them, or they introduce themselves when the person is a child (happens often), especially a lonely or abused child. Bad things come into people’s lives not just from their sins but also sins of others as well as from negative generational habits and sins and demons (and familiar spirits). A lot of people want to do right and even walk with God, but they don’t have any real encouragement to do so. Unfortunately, the churches are mostly not working as they were originally meant to, and therefore, a lot of benefits and blessings are MIA around Christians and in everyday life.

      David said, “Bless the Lord oh my soul… and forget not all His benefits” (Ps. 103). Most of His benefits are lacking right now, and answers are few and far between. Many people have unanswered questions, and clichés and such don’t work. Many Christians have turned, are turning, and will turn to occult means such as Wicca (loads of Christians at my college were into Wicca, and my ex-girlfriend left the church to become Wiccan), darker forms of occultism like witchcraft and satanism, New Age, and overt forms of idolatry like the worship of angels or Mother Earth, etc., all because they have not found answers in churches. Hopefully, this will change soon; and hopefully, you’ll find the answers you need. A prayer for you:

      Lord, You are the Answer when there are only questions, the Solution when there are only puzzles. Meet Tracy where she is, as You do, and move the pieces around for her to connect with the right people who have living faith toward God and who can impart or share with her fulfilling Life from You. And give her peace as You do. Amen.

    • Sarah says:

      Believing in God is not enough, as James 2:19 says, “You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that–and shudder.” However, God, our father and savior, loves you so much and is pursuing after your heart, always knocking on your door and wants to free you. He just wants you to love Him back by your own choice, to surrender yourself and your fears to Him. He wants you to seek Him, to have a relationship with Him, and He loves you so indescribably, incredibly. He just wants what’s best for us, as his sons and daughters, which is His pure love that always conquerors and frees us from fear. Tracy, I don’t know if you will ever see this, but I will be praying for you, and I have faith that Jesus is doing everything to bring you back to His light; you just have to call upon His name.

      Romans 5:8 “but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”

  36. Humphrey Cushion says:

    Hello
    It’s unfortunate that you cannot see past satan’s deception, it really shows to me a lack of thorough and intelligent thought that anyone could follow the occult. You can gain a terrible reputation even if you believe in what you do is right doesn’t mean others will and this will sully any want for people to hold you in a high and trustworthy regard. All this being said what your involved as you say is totally against all that is holy and in the precious name of Christ I urge you to stop!

    I once knew a woman that was unfortunately involved with the occult and had been since she was a teenager. She invariably attended spiritualist churches and engaged in witchcraft. She claimed to have power over men, could summon spirits, could also tell the future and know a person by just looking at them.

    She had a variety of friends and acquaintances that we’re Christian that tried to save her, her sister in law being one of them but alas she always turned back to demonic things. She often influenced others to take drugs or engage in the occult, be it via mediums and so on.

    Knowing this woman, her past, her beliefs, her want to control and to some extent being able to influence others suggests to me that she was indeed possessed and as the pervious comments identify she was and may still be possessed by Jezebel!

    Some people willingly accept Satan into there lives and pursue lucifers plan to dominate and destroy but more fool them, some reject the adversary eventually realizing there interests and actions are demonic.

    I hope this may help in some small way to answer your dilemma. May God open your heart to the truth in Jesus’s mighty name.

    Humphrey

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  40. Marshall says:

    Have you written on the Delilah Spirit?

    • Arendale says:

      Good question. The Delilah spirit sounds like it’s just a spirit of lust, but I bet the Bible has more to say about it than just lust.

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  43. Stephen John Sponsler says:

    The traits of the Jezebel in this sound like they are describing a sinner. Jezebel sacrificed to Baal..and the people to be in good standing before their ‘queen’ had to eat foods sacrificed to a god..kind of like the Eucharist. Got and learn what this means, “I Desire Mercy not Sacrifice”.

    • Arendale says:

      This book makes sense of what ‘the Jezebel spirit’ is better than anything I know of out there: Jezebel Seducing Goddess of War

      This thing is not just one spirit but a sort of cadre of evil spirits or ‘gods’ (Baal, Ashtoreth, etc.) which merge with the sinful flesh, therefore making it hard to distinguish between the Jezebel spirit(s) and a person’s fleshly nature.

      Narcissism and the Jezebel spirit aren’t the same thing though very similar. Anyone who operates in a Jezebel spirit will be narcissistic, but not everyone who is narcissistic will be operating in a Jezebel spirit though Jezebel is in fact the other side of Narcissism just like psychopathy and sociopathy are not the same but are closely tied together, one the other side of the other. Please do some research on this and you will begin to see where the Bible in fact does talk about ‘the Jezebel spirit’. (Best clue is where Jesus talks about those who come a”the spirit of Elijah”

    • Arendale says:

      Well, that’s a real mystery. I posted just now but it didn’t post exactly what I wrote. Here’s what the recent post (from a minute ago) is supposed to look like:

      This book makes sense of what ‘the Jezebel spirit’ is better than anything I know of out there: https://www.amazon.com/Jezebel-Seducing-Goddess-\+-nas-Clark/dp/1886885044/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1471216280&sr=8-1&keywords=jonas+clark-+jezebel. This thing is not just one spirit but a sort of cadre of evil spirits or ‘gods’ (Baal, Ashtoreth, etc.) which merge with the sinful flesh, therefore making it hard to distinguish between the Jezebel spirit(s) and a person’s fleshly nature.

      Narcissism and the Jezebel spirit aren’t the same thing though very similar. Anyone who operates in a Jezebel spirit will be narcissistic, but not everyone who is narcissistic will be operating in a Jezebel spirit though Jezebel is in fact the other side of Narcissism just like psychopathy and sociopathy are not the same but are closely tied together, one the other side of the other. Please do some research on this and you will begin to see where the Bible in fact does talk about ‘the Jezebel spirit’.

      Let me help, if you want help: I believe the most obvious evidence in the Bible that there is in fact a ‘Jezebel spirit’ which existed in the past (before Queen Jezebel) and is presently in existence is where Jesus addresses the Thyatira Church in Revelation. In the OT (eg. Malachi 4) and in Jesus’s day, it was said that one would come “in the spirit of Elijah”. Elijah was a man; how could his spirit be hanging around after he died? The same way Jezebel’s does, because it’s not their own spirits but ‘the spirit on them’ (with Jezebel it was those ‘gods/evil spirits’ from satan and with Elijah it was a ‘prophetic reforming spirit’ from the Lord). It is clear that the name of the woman in the Thyatira Church who Jesus addressed was not Jezebel. Therefore, the only reasonable explanation for Jesus calling her Jezebel is that He was speaking to the spirit at work IN/behind her. If you doubt this, refer to when Jesus said directly to Peter, “Get behind me, satan!” We all know He was talking to satan primarily but that He was addressing Peter. For the humble seeker of truth, this instance (along with many others in the Bible) should put to rest the claim that “there is no such thing as a Jezebel spirit”.

      The Bible only names two good angels (Michael and Gabriel) and basically one bad one (lucifer); does this mean that there are only two good angels and only one bad one and only a few demons? No. Do your research on ‘the Jezebel spirit’ so you can understand many things and people you do not presently understand. This spirit is waylaying and destroying Christians and non-Christians as you are reading this. Unlike the flesh, this thing is an entity, and unlike fleshly works, Jezebel can ‘eat you alive’ and make a complete ruin of even a sincere believer’s life. You might want to get to learning about it asap. And if you need some more info. on Jezebel the entity (not fleshly works and attitudes that hold some similarities to Jezebel), feel free to ask.

  44. Jimmy Metz says:

    How do I confront the person who has the Jezebel spirit. My wife fits the description to a tee. She’s very violent very angry person

  45. Anitra Johnson says:

    Powerful. I have recognized this spirit in more men than women.

    • Arendale says:

      Same here.

    • Barry White says:

      Yes! The old Pentecostal churches used to have mostly women jezebels, but as the years have went by men are becoming more predominant. Churches need Watchmen on their walls and stand prepared to execute the force of Holy Spirit instead of caving and pampering them. The longer you wait the stronger the foothold sill get and then you’ll wind up in a split with trouble and confusion.

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  48. Anita says:

    I came directly face to face with that.

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  52. Carlos A says:

    Interesting. But what you have described is general humanity. My definition would be an evil spirit or demon that occupies a person into selfishness, greed, insensitive, apathetic, manipulative and desires Ill-will of others. Whether if it’s for self recognition, foolish pride and/or to promote an ungodly agenda.

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  55. Ian says:

    Jesus does acknowledge His mother in the Bible. When Jesus therefore saw his mother, john 19 26 and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!
    27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home. He get John to take her in as his own mother nothing about worshipping her.

  56. Katherine walsh says:

    It’s being entertaining from the pulpit in my church because of lavish gifts and special favors they do for the pastor after not against it it’s taken three years for me to do this but I find I can no longer these people have a son that they demonize everyone in the church has fallen for it I cannot abide by this I will entertain this and I’m being ostracized

    • Arendale says:

      Katherine, you should leave and pray for and seek out a safe and godly fellowship (which will usually be a small one; Jezebels love big places where there are lights, glitz, glamour, lots of flesh, superficiality, and a chance at some kind of fame which you don’t find in small groups as you do in the average-sized church). When leadership puts up with Jezebel and no one repents, the only godly person who should be in such a place is Jesus Himself– and that for judgment. Everyone else who is pursuing a genuine relationship with God should leave unless God very expressly tells them to stay and they have total clarity about it (not fear, confusion, or uncertainty). I hope that helps.

  57. Chesapeake says:

    This is so on point. I have been under the influence of Jezabel spirit for most of my marriage. My wife has become this spirit she is super controlling and very manipulating. After sometime out of the house. I realized this spirit has been controlling our marriage. She has become demonic.

  58. Barry White says:

    Hi, whoever wrote this article is on target, bullseye! Very Good job on how they operate, their motives etc….
    I am a prophet and I can relate to everything and probably more in this article loaded with information!
    I hope you get a lot of visits because people need to be made aware of this terrible narcissists spirit that is working in our churches to tear down, cause divisions and splits. I’ve seen this happen 4 times, 2 were women and 2 were men.
    God Bless you, And God’s Grace and Favor be on you and go before you…..

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  60. Kwabena says:

    Great content. God bless you. 👍
    After reading through your content, I realize my partner is been processed by a jezebel spirit. Since she is actively allowing herself to be manipulate by this demonic spirit she is not ready to admit and be prayed for. I love my wife and kids, and want my family and her saved, cos it is getting out of hand now considering divorcing me. What can I do behind the scene to save her from such spirit. I need my wife back and need it right now.
    Please help.

  61. carey says:

    my beast friend natalie ruth scibetta has this jezebel spirit or is just a sociopath missing part of the brain

  62. Carla Tibbetts says:

    Yes very good article, I have a daughter in-law that has this Jezebel Spirit, I live in another state, I dread going back there beacuse she ignores me and says rude things, do I really need to subject my self to this treatment, I say nothing to my son because he walks on egg shells, I don’t want to make it worst on him. Heart broken mother.

    • Dante says:

      Yet we are called not to be tolerant to this spirit (Revelations). I do know my exwife has it and one of my friends. I do not tolerate it, and have managed to called it out on my friends situation calling it for what it is, full of pride and hungry for mostly sexual attention

      • Arendale says:

        Good for you to stand up to it, Dante. Most people are scared witless to stand up to this vile loser attitude and evil spirit.

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  64. Marc says:

    As a Christian people we are truly in trouble if we cannot discern spiritual truths. In Corinthians Paul discusses how these believers were fighting with each other, and taking each other to court.

    Look at the direction and tone of some of the comments posted here. It is good to gently reprove one another if our brother or sister is in error. But some of these comments feel attacking toward others. Let’s maintain love for one another, and look to drift and perfect our understanding of our Lord through meekness and humility. Search the scriptures and challenge the doctrine lovingly if a brother/sister is in error.

    I love and thank you all for contributing to my understanding. This is a newer topic for me, and I have learned much on this from this thread.

    Marc

  65. lostidentity says:

    This sounds like anyone labeled as passive, aggressive!

  66. I had that happened to me with a girl in the military base i was working with. She said I am doing nothing wrong when corrected to walk away of men watching her with big India eyes and smiling. She was an intern Geneticist working there part time during the gulf war years and I am called to reprove that situation about who controls the money reason being i was reprimanded up the ads about it and later terminated by a man called Commander David Lesser

  67. Sandra Urion says:

    I just recognized after 10 years that my now ex, is got a jezebel spirit. I am a mess!!! I’m waking up hearing songs like, “I Don’t Want To Live Without You”, for example. These articles are exactly who he is. And, its true, all you want to do is help get him delivered. But, it’s impossible! He won’t accept it or believe. I NEED HELP!!! I feel like a curse is on me. And, he was very abusive, too. Why can’t I STOP LOVING him? What do I do? Why can’t I let go? Any suggestions?

  68. Debbie Martin says:

    This is God sent! I am dating a guy that has a mom that has to have control over everything ……she has even bought same (women’s underclothing ) as I did -same color when we went shopping! She is 83 yrs old, and reading this it has shown me that this spirit has effected sons (grandsons, daughters. great grandchildren). I have seen her use money to have control. I pray this spirit has no authority over my life. I wondered for awhile what was going on but now I know. Thank you for sharing this. Deb

  69. vz says:

    Where are your scriptures for backing this information up? Each point should contain a scripture because many of these traits are plain old spirit of pride and or narcissistic and manipulative in general, not necessarily a jezebel spirit.

    • Snoopy It Is says:

      Vz, I like to say, “Not everything is written in the Bible, but everything is contained in it.” I like people to figure out the facts for themselves rather than me trying to convince them, therefore, I like to ask people questions to get their own brains rotating and clicking and working to find the answers. So, here are several questions and statements to get your brain started on thinking about whether or not Jezebel is a spirit: do you really think that “Each point should contain a scripture” is Scripturally correct and that you can find a backup for every fact in the Bible? The Bible repudiates several abominations within just several verses (eg. homosexuality, beastiality, incest) but never decries pedophilia and child molestation once; do you then think the Bible is okay with it because you can’t use the Bible to back up saying that it is wrong? Does the Bible tell us to demand scriptures from someone who makes claims about scripture that we don’t agree with or are unsure of, or does it tell US to be like the Bereans and study to show our own selves approved?

      You aren’t supposed to ask people for scriptures to back up spiritual claims that you don’t agree with. (Afterall, in the end, you won’t believe what you don’t want to believe and will deny what you want to deny.) You are supposed to go to the Bible, just like the Bereans did and as the Bible tells us to do, and look for yourself. There are HOSTS of spirits out there, both good and bad, that affect and are all around us. But let’s forget Jezebel for a minute; there are literally worlds of evil spirits out there, so debating about just one is a waste of time. I want to introduce you to the fact that God Himself created other gods to be part of His team (so to speak) some of who later rebelled (I am not talking about angels; I am talking about “gods” or “sons of God”– as the Bible itself calls them– which are a different and higher breed from angels). If you want someone who WILL give you tons and tons of biblical evidence on findings that most christians won’t agree with, you will love Mike Heiser. Start here, and read the free portion by clicking on the book (‘look inside’): https://www.amazon.com/Unseen-Realm-Recovering-Supernatural-Worldview/dp/1577995562/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1520652115&sr=8-1

      If you want video which may be easier, here is a 5-minute video by Heiser (and from there you can branch out and watch many other videos): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lLkVlc9xdI

      The things we know are excruciatingly small. We can only be in one place at one time and can only know what we have learned (which may or may not be true). We don’t know what happens around us when we sleep or what the person in the room next to us is doing; therefore, we cannot claim to be sure of things unless the Bible agrees with them and we receive the evidence by experience or/and revelation. Mike Heiser is true professional, specialist, and expert on the spirits that in fact do exist. He may not mention Jezebel, but as you listen to him, it will begin to dawn on you that this thing is far, far, far greater than just the Jezebel spirit. “Not everything is written in the Bible, but everything is contained in it.” When it isn’t obvious or apparent in the Bible, then it’s time to search, dig, and study until you find it. Heiser has done the work for many of us. Please go and appreciate his work.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Those, who support Trump and his evil ways should be excited! Franklin Graham a False Prophet for Trump is holding rallies in the North State. He along with other evangelists, who worship and follow Trump, instead of Jesus, is spreading their blasphemous message to all of America, and spitting in the face of Jesus with every lie.
        Any Christian, who supports Trump, has been deceived and lost their salvation. In 2nd Thessalonians 2: 3 Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness (the son of destruction) is revealed. 4 He will oppose and exalt himself above every so-called god or object of worship. So, he will seat himself in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. Trump fulfills this and many other prophetic descriptions of the anti-christ in the Bible. Trump is the exact opposite of Christ. … The beast was given a mouth to speak arrogant and blasphemous words, and authority to act for forty-two months. 6: And the beast opened its mouth to blaspheme against God and slander His name and His tabernacle. Those who follow Trump are described in another scripture Timothy 3:2: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3: unloving, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, without love of good,…Sounds like Trump worshipers.
        The Bible warns us in Matthew 6: 24 No one can serve two masters: Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.
        Prophecy was fulfilled, when the 80% of Christians marked their ballot for the demon Trump. Trump Tower, located at 666 5th Avenue is the devil’s headquarters, where traitorous and extreme acts of evil have occurred. Revelation 13:18 says, “Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is 666.”.
        Another prophecy fulfilled with the election of Trump, talks about a great falling away by the church, when 81% of evangelicals voted for Trump the son of perdition. 2nd Thessalonians 2:3: Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition.
        The Bible warns us that our salvation is lost, if we support the man of lawlessness. Matthew 7: 21: “Not everyone who says to me, ‘LORD, LORD,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22: Many will say to me on that day, ‘LORD, LORD, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and, in your name, perform many miracles?’ 23: Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ For those evildoers, like those who support Trump, the man of lawlessness will find themselves fulfilling this prophecy in Luke 13: 27: And he will answer, ‘I tell you, I do not know where you are from. Depart from me, all you evildoers.’ 28: There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth when you see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves are thrown out.
        For those born again and waiting for the rapture and voted for Trump, forget about it. Jesus tells us in the parable of the virgins, fig tree and workers of the field, when have of the Christians are raptured and the rest left to face Tribulation, who will stay behind, and which will go to be with Jesus. Those Christians left behind committed the worst sin, they turned their back on Jesus and accepted the mark of Donald Trump, whom yesterday reignited war in the middle east, just like the Bible prophesied.
        What to do? Reject Trump and receive Jesus.

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        You used some fitting scriptures, but I think you missed it. For one, being a lover of self and the rest of that passage applies to “men” as the passage clearly says which means “people”, not just Trump. And secondly, supporting Trump doesn’t defile or revoke a christian’s salvation. It’s those who choose evil who lose their salvation, and many people don’t know what they’ve chosen in Trump as the custom is with almost all our presidents since JFK. God didn’t penalize anyone for making mistakes; only satan does. God warns to be discerning so you won’t make mistakes, but mistakes don’t cost you your salvation. You’re to “study to show yourself approved.. RIGHTLY dividing (discerning, understanding) the word of truth.”

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Thanks for your response! Jesus is clearly talking to the church in these scriptures, not the sinners. Matthew 24: 23: At that time, if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There He is,’ do not believe it. 24: For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect, if that were possible. The elect is the church and men like Franklin Graham would be considered the elite of the church. When Jesus says in Matthew 7: 21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness. Trump fol.lows no law, he believes he is above the law. God’s law or man’s law. He has no morals and pretends to be a Christian, when He has never asked for forgiveness, doesn’t believe it or has he openly accepted Jesus as his Savior. His fruit is rotten to the core. There is no good in him.

  70. Josh says:

    I find it very strange you ascribe the traits of the Jezebel spirit to a man, instead of to a woman. Jezebel was not a man.

    • Jezebel was an evil queen in the Bible story, who represents a very evil multi-faceted controlling seducing spirit ruling over witchcraft and religiious, cults, false doctrine, seducing, etc. The Jezebel as a spirit is genderless and is a principality rather than a demon. It is highly intelligent and dangerous and will use many different methods including long-term strategies and working in networks to do its work of steal, kill and destroy.

      The Jezebel spirit can work through men as well as women, as well as any form of transgender. This is illustrated in the Bible story in Kings where Jezebel the queen had 850 male followers who ‘ate at her table’ (this likely refers to spiritual food but not that of God but the food of the devil) and did her bidding.

      In the New Testament (Rev: 2:20) Jezebel (the Jezebel spirit) ruled over a church comprising men and women, therefore working through and on both men and women. Jezebel is known for being adept at hiding itself, hence the mask so often associated with this spirit, and as part of that has led people to believe that it only manifests as a made-up woman. That would clearly be a very dangerous belief for anyone to have – such as, for example, serial killers are always dressed up as clowns – and anyway is simply not true.

  71. Josephine W says:

    Here is a list of what Narcissists usually do to their targets:

    Insults their target very often. Then lie when confronted about it, or say it was a joke.
    When confronted with their behavior, they pretend to be innocent and play the victim.
    Everything is always your fault, even when it’s obviously not.
    They always have a justification for every bad thing they do. They think they’re always right.
    Very controlling, they tell you how to live, but they can live anyway they want. Very hypocritical.
    They accuse you of what they’re doing to you (RED FLAG!), it’s called projection.
    Portraying themselves as angels outside, when they are actually demons with their family and especially their target.
    They want you to fail, while pretending to want you to succeed (they’re very convincing).
    They never say they are sorry for hurting you (RED FLAG!).
    Poison your favourite activities, they don’t want you to be happy or to get pleasure. They also poison other useful activities like important skills which will help you in the future. They DO NOT want you to have skills, they want you to be as weak as possible. They don’t teach you anything.
    Subtly lead a smear campaign against their target, so they isolate it and make sure they don’t get help.
    When you want to leave the relationship with a narcissist, they beg you to stay with them and cry crocodile tears. They are the best actors.
    Sometimes nice, sometimes cruel. You never know where you stand with them.
    They pretend to be “victims”, and they blame the target for their own behavior.
    They are incredibly arrogant and sadistic. They see the target as weak, and deserving to suffer.
    They think they are models to be followed.
    They are spiritually dead although they might loudly profess some kind of spiritual belief.

    • Karen Koontz says:

      I am a narcissist and have the Jezebel spirit. I want to change but don’t know how! I am Miserables and made my husband miserable..

      • Just the same, we accept Jesus as our Saviour, repenting for our sins (changing our mind) cultivating godly sorrow, prayer. Renunciation prayers are a good place to start with deliverance, and there is a prayer to renounce the Jezebel spirit at the end of the article. There are many other renunciation prayers available on this site and elsewhere on the internet and as a form of repentance, they work very well to get deliverance. These prayers are best said aloud and with head covered for females.

        Self deliverance works very well using videos and audio as it is Jesus who delivers and the power of deliverance is always and only when we say “in the name of Jesus”. We need to take the authority that he has given us. If your husband is saved, it will work well for him to take authority.

        Remove any cursed objects from your home, garden, garage, office, and transport by checking against The Occult and Cursed Object List on this site.

        The Jezebel spirit often works in a demonic network (some say eg. Jezebel, antichrist and child of hell) and/or perhaps, for example, with an entertaining and witty demon which works to hide the Jezebel demon. As a principality, and a highly intelligent one at that, it is not so easy to identify or to expel as other demons. There may be some special requirements for the Jezebel spirit to do with a three-fold cord is not easily broken.

        There is so much information on the internet – although great care is needed as some of it is disinformation and some of it just plain wrong. A key is always to pray about it, check the sources, test the spirits, check back that it is backed up with scripture. It is possible to find out what you need to know and get the help from the Holy Spirit to find out what needs to be done and do it. God is with you, so no need to fear, just the name of Jesus is more powerful than any spirit including the Jezebel spirit.

        It is important to be able to walk our deliverance out. Prayer, praise, worship, thanksgiving, reading the Bible (KJV), repentance and renewing our mind, and making a sincere effort to increasingly do all that Jesus told us to do will help us get free and stay free.

  72. Alice says:

    This is really an eye opening article. Do you have more info about an Ahab spirit?

  73. Sue says:

    This article is just excellent. I sadly see that my daughter, my beloved baby, now 41, is in a very bad place as 95% of this describes her. She was diagnosed years ago via my description of her behavior as having narcissistic personality disorder. I cannot imagine her ever recognizing that in her and certainly not this and asking for forgiveness, let alone renouncing this spirit unless God intervenes. So I will just keep holding her up to God in the 20 years or so that we have left until the rapture. At least she is a believer as are my granddaughters, so praise God for that. She unfortunately is in a church that will never speak on this subject.

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  75. Kelly says:

    This sounds an awful lot like Donald Trump. 😥

    • Donald Trump is not necessarily any worse than any of them. Only God knows the truth of it. There is an extent to which people are being manipulated so that they fall into one of two camps, love Trump or hate Trump which is not very healthy as there is so much more to it than that.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        The Devil Trump is worse than any President ever. He is anti to everything Jesus is and teaches. This is just another example of how the Devil is deceiving “Christians”. That is why half of the Christians will lose their salvation and be left behind.

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Pat Johnston, in the past I would have thought you were trolling with your last comment about Trump; but I know better now.

        I’ve learned that Jezebels– who are simply ‘narcissists in religious garb’– and evil people in general (sociopaths, psychopaths, and ASPDs (people with Anti-Social Personality Disorder)) are very quick and merciless in accusing innocent people of what they themselves are guilty of. I had a sociopath (this guy needs to be locked up in solitary confinement) who accused me of being schizophrenic, manipulative, a liar, using people, and a whole list of things that he was himself. Maybe you’re a narcissist or Jezebel and therefore– like Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler, and the rest of those sociopathic hoo-hahs– you’re accusing Trump of what is in fact wrong with you.

        I know several things about Trump (and I’m not a fan of anyone): A.) When he was doing the show The Apprentice, I discerned something about him that made me think, “I would like to work with that man one day, to support and uphold and strengthen him.” B.) About week before the 2016 elections, God made it clear to me TWICE that Trump is His chosen vessel for this hour (don’t know how long ‘this hour’ is however). C.) Trump is uncovering and persecuting corruption in high places, something other presidents have not done (they chased low-level corruption and left the bureaucrats and aristocrats and upper-level corruption alone), and wicked people do not and cannot persecute or prosecute in others the same corruption that is in them.

        You need God to deal with your heart. This fiasco isn’t about picking sides but about seeing what God is doing and where He throws in His lot and throwing in your lot there as well. As the only president who made occultists go public with oaths to curse him utnil he is removed from office, there is not a single chance that Trump is satan’s vessel rather than God’s (though God knows that can change any time since Trump also has free will). “The Devil Trump is worse than any President ever.” That first statement of yours alone shows quite clearly to those with eyes to see that the devil is in you, not in Trump.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Interesting you support the worst Jezebel of our generation and you know nothing about me, but you judge me. “Judge lest you be judges.” Therefore, judging me, when you support Trump is turning Christianity on its head. Jesus would say to you, In Matthew 23:13-39 explains false Prophets, like those leading the Trump Cult of Christians are the true narcissist. Read it all, but here is the first of many woes for hypocrites leading their flock. “But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. How does evil religious leaders stop Christians from going in by leading them astray to follow Trump clearly the man of lawlessness. BY following him, Jesus warns the church in Matthew 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ In your paragraph about Jezebels, only Trump matches your description. Nancy Pelosi is a Christian, unlike Trump she speaks of her faith often and lives a life of morals and principles. As does Schiff and Nadler. These men are honorable and educated men, unlike the Devil Trump. After the revival in the 70’s, an evil bigoted preacher named Jerry Falwell Sr., who brought us the Moral Majority. Somehow, the church fell for this line of preaching and the corruption of the church began. It continues on under his sun, who is now known for having a bizarre relationship with the pool boy. “Falwell has denied the existence of the photos — or at least that they’re of him — but the Herald reviewed three of them, which show Falwell’s “wife in various stages of undress.” I’m sure our Lord and Savior is disgusted with the church to take their salvation away and deny them entrance into Heaven. The bigotry continued with the election of Obama, an excellent human being, man of faith, whose life is fruit of his commitment to Jesus. Trump has no good in him at all. Yet, Christians flock to him to bite the poisonous apple filled with promises of stopping abortion, while children die, abused and separated at the border; he promises a stop to gay rights, even though all men are created equal in the eyes of America and God and all are children of God. There sin is no worse than the sin of supporting the man of lawlessness. For this sin, Christians will lose their salvation. Trump has put dictators over America. This is not the America God established. If Trump is reelected all will be lost, but not for the remnant church. We will be raptured and spared from the horrors Trump will bring. The great fallen church will be brought to their knees, facing the tribulation, just as in the days of Noah only worse, because those which betray God is His church.

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        I’m happy to see that you’re so poisoned that you are unable to reason. I’m only happy about that because it means I don’t have to waste my time reasoning with you. #Trump2020.

      • sarah hodgins says:

        Truth in Reality, you are correct. In the NWO plan, the Globalists control both sides, so that they always win. Yes Trump has a few things going for him (eg that he does not support abortion, to my knowledge) but look at how he is dividing Christians. Look at how he is bringing on the WW3 which was predicted by Freemason leader Albert Pike. This is all to distract Christians from the Lord!

  76. Snoopy It Is says:

    sarah hodgins, Trump is dividing christians? The Bible doesn’t agree with that but rather says that Jesus is who divides christians, making a division and distinction between christians who have rejected God and believers who genuinely follow God. Trump, if anything, is revealing the immense darkness in the hearts of christians– both christians who hate him and christians who only love him because of how they feel about him rather than how God feels about him. Trump is the only one currently holding back the spirit of Antichrist, especially having saved America from the Antichrist AND Jezebel spirits in Hillary Clinton, that witch. But my message to all christians who hate Trump for personal reasons, my message to them is that they please continue to sink in their own hateful hearts and toss and turn with disgust on many sleepless nights as they pine only for their own desires and not the desires of the Lord. It’s very good to see your hearts being revealed. #Trump2020

    • Sarah says:

      Hi, what do you mean about the Bible not saying that Trump is dividing Christians? I meant the people here on this webpage who are arguing about Trump

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Only Jesus divides christians unless the enemy uses his workers to do it subtly. In the end, you will have christians who hate God and believers who love God. No one will be able to divide the believers who love God as the Bond that ties them together is all-powerful. But the christians who hate God and are only living to save their lives, they are already divided against God, therefore, anything (whether purposely or not) can and does divide them easily.

    • Snoopy It Is says:

      sarah hodgins, I just saw your other comment. Yes, we are in the last days and there will be at least one more world war. Yes, I know about Albert Pike, the elite, the NWO, the Illuminati, and satan’s plans through them against mankind. The Bible said all these things would happen, so there is little need to worry. “Bad people do bad things,” so satan is just doing what is in his nature through those who are in agreement with him.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        God separated the wheat from the chaff, the great fallen church from the small remnant church and if you support Trump, you are chaff and will be turned away by Jesus. Sarah is right.Trump is the spirit of anti-christ and has fooled the church, just as Jesus prophesied. Name one thing Hillary has done that is worse than what Trump says and does everyday. There has been NO proof of any wrong doing by her and tons of proof Trump commits crimes and is the most amoral President ever. I will be with the Lord in the clouds forever, while you will be forever in hell with Trump. This is the deadly apple Trump has given to the gullible church, who have so much evil in their heart, they follow their natural instinct and blindly follow the son of perdition. Jesus 2020!

      • Jenny Foster says:

        Whatever the truth about Trump there is no denying that the Clintons are not the nice people that they appear to be. There is a very long list of people who have been involved with them in one way or another who have wound up dead, many suicided. Google “Clinton body count”. Their daughter Chelsea wears an upside crucifix which is one of the favourite signs of Satanists and that says it all.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        There has never been any facts to any criminal investigations into the Clinton’s, unlike all the crimes Trump commits and continues to commit, since he was elected. Whatever Chelsey wears or believes, it is nothing compared to being the off spring of Satan and benefiting from it financially and criminally every day, since Big Daddy stole the White House. Blind and hypocritical loyalty is what a deranged and fanatical cult looks like. 2 Timothy 3:1 But understand this: In the last days terrible times will come. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, without love of good,… Trump and his Cult of fanatics fulfills this prophecy perfectly.

      • Jenny Foster says:

        Sarah, you are absolutely right that politics is used as a tool to divide and rule. Far from there not being any evidence against Hillary and Bill Clinton, there are truckloads of evidence against them and they are almost certainly satanists. On the other hand, Trump for all his wrongdoing seems to be better, although he may not be, he is certainly no worse than them. It is ridiculous to say there is no evidence against the Clintons. What about all the leaked emails? Pizzagate and spirit cooking and the charity funds for Haiti that have gone astray. On the other hand, where is the ACTUAL evidence against Trump? I haven’t seen any to prove he is any worse than any other politician or president, etc. Trophy-hunting sons, yes, but that’s par for the course. Trump may be bad, but nope, there is no excuse for claiming not to know that the Clintons are very bad, very bad indeed.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Why are you afraid of Hillary and call her Killary? You should be afraid of the most powerful lunatic in the world Trump, who has the nuclear code. Hillary and the Clintons can’t do anything to you. The idea is ridiculous. Christians should be united by Christ. Not divided by the Devil Trump. All this bashing started with the Tea Party and America electing a black man. The Rush Limbaugh of the right grew and birthed the abomination called Trump. Trump’s name means to con. Perfect name for a con-man. God is sifting the church to see who will be raptured and go to Heaven and those which will lose their salvation, because of their devotion to the man of lawlessness Trump. Matthew 3:12 His winnowing fork is in His hand to clear His threshing floor and to gather His wheat into the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.” He is talking to the church, not the sinner and fulfilling scripture of the great falling away by his church. 2nd Thessolonians 2:3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of [b]sin is revealed, the son of perdition. The man of perdition is Trump and the great falling away is the church that follows them and apparently doesn’t study the Word diligently, listening to man instead.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        The New World Order is under the control of Trump and Putin. They deceive you into thinking its the liberals, when it is actually them. Hillary has no power to harm, however Trump in less than a week has shown us how scary an unrestrained White House can ruin decent and honorable people’s lives, along with destroying those who serve Trump. Trump demands loyalty, but has none to no one. He is in the process of purging all of the brave and honorable public servants, who had to testify under oath about the President. Their reward is your fired, along with denigrating their reputation. Anyone that thinks pay back by a President is okay is beyond sick in the head. What he did was horrifically corrupt.

      • sarah hodgins says:

        I am very interested to see where the US, Trump, and or anyone else such as Russia is mentioned in the Bible!

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Gog and Magog are Russia.Magog, Meshech, and Tubal were all sons of Japheth, who was one of the three sons of Noah. Jepheth and his family migrated to the area of modern-day Russia (Genesis 10:2-3). Ezekiel 38:1 The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “Son of man, set your face toward Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech[a] and Tubal, and prophesy against him 3 and say, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech[b] and Tubal. 4 And I will turn you about and put hooks into your jaws, and I will bring you out, and all your army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed in full armor, a great host, all of them with buckler and shield, wielding swords. Trump and his followers are noted in 2 Timothy 3: 1 But understand this: In the last days terrible times will come. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, without love of good,… America easily could be the whore of Babylon and rides with the beast (Trump) devouring and destroying the church, which Trump is doing. Revelations 17:1 One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits by many waters (America has many waters surrounding us). 2 With her the kings of the earth committed adultery, and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries.” 3 Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names (Trump and the church are blasphemous) and had seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. 5 The name written on her forehead was a mystery:
        babylon the great
        the mother of prostitutes
        and of the abominations of the earth.
        6 I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of God’s holy people, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.
        When Christians sold their soul to the Devil Trump, they lost them.

      • Jenny Foster says:

        Pat Johnston, it seems you have sadly become obsessed with Trump who is hardly Satan incarnate as you seem to believe he is. It does sound as if you are one of those who foolishly believe if Trump disappeared overnight, everything would be fine?

      • Pat Johnston says:

        I am called by the Lord to share the truth about who Donald is, as he mathces perfectly the description of the anti-christ in the Bible. Each generation is tested with an evil man. Our test is defying Trump and following the Lord, no matter what Trump does or promises. We need to follow what is holy, not evil. This about saving the 80% of Christians, who support Trump from losing their salvation, because they follow the man of lawlessness. Why are 1/2 of the Christians left behind? The Bible tells us that when the church has a great falling away, because they followed the man of lawlessness, Trump that Jesus will reject you, because you followed Trump, instead of Jesus. I have already quoted many scriptures to back it up, but will do so if you need me to. Better yet seek the Word and the Holy Spirit and find them yourself. They are there,if you take the blinders off, you will find the answers you seek.

      • “America easily could be the whore of Babylon” but you don’t know that it is, do you? The Roman Catholic church could easily be the whore of Babylon, and so could Europe, and so could Jerusalem. You are just assuming and it is not wise to do that.

    • Sarah says:

      Christ didnt come to divide Christians.

      • sarah hodgins says:

        Hi I don’t necessarily believe Trump is any more antichrist than anyone else (especially Killary!!) but I do think that these major characters are placed in goverment purely to distract people from God and from whatever evil the NWO is currently doing. I mean, look how people here are arguing! I personally am very afraid of the Clintons because I have seen Killary lying but you know most politicians lie…but Killary is a fan of that guy who wrote the book about How to Have a Revolution (not sure the exact name) and that book is literally dedicated to Lucifer. Anyway my point is, politics is a major weapon of satan and I don’t believe God wants us to be bashign one another. I said it once and I will say it again — Christ never came to divide CHRISTIANS. He came to divide Christians from unbelievers. anyone who has read the NT knows that Jesus wishes Christians to be UNITED!!!!

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Jesus said in, Luke 12:51 Do you think that I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I tell you, but division. 52 From now on, five in one household will be divided, three against two and two against three.…Now, ask yourselves how many family members and lifelong friends have you lost as a result of supporting Trump. Most of my bigoted family and many of my fallen Christian friends have turned against me for the first time in 65 years, because of the division Trump brings and Jesus has allowed, as a way to test the merit of His church. A test they failed miserably, when they sold their soul to the Devil Trump.

  77. sarah hodgins says:

    Jenny you are correct, Chelsey sent as tweet out congratulating Satanists… Sick stuff. Sick people. They really need our prayers.

    • Pat Johnston says:

      Unfortunately, the Devil Trump and his supporters have less moral standing then the Clinton’s. With very little checking , I found the cross. It isn’t up-side down. It is a Greek cross, with four equal parts. I have no idea what crack pot thought that up, but it goes to show you how gullible and brainwashed Trump’s Cult is.

      • Sarah says:

        I have to make it clear again that the planners of the New World Order dont care who is president, they will use whoever is elected. I cannot honestly say that Trump is a holy man, but hillary scares me more. Both are lacking in morals to some extent, but maybe that’s to be expected with wealthy people of power. However, people have been predicting who Antichrist is since the days of the Roman Emperors, some of whom were far more cruel and immoral than modern leaders. It’s not worth attacking other Christians. Jesus and St Paul both stressed living in peace as much as possible with others, especially Christians.

      • Sarah says:

        Which cross are you talking about? The Orthodox (Greek) Cross is Christian, it just has the line above for the INRI inscription above Jesus’s head, and the little foot bar. It is still a legit and very old symbol.

      • Sarah says:

        It is really tragic that politics is becoming so extreme that your family would reject you based on your choice of leader. I find that is going way too far. I hope the USA does not have another civil war.

      • Sarah says:

        It is really tragic that politics is becoming so extreme that your family would reject you based on your choice of leader. I find that is going way too far. I hope the USA does not have another civil war.

      • Jenny Foster says:

        Sorry but there is no question that cross is not in four equal parts and it is an upside-down crucifix. Snopes doesn’t cut it, it’s a known government shill.

        There is a massive amount of evidence against both the Clintons, but sadly people want to take things on face value these days and don’t want to accept the truth because it means digging deeper which they don’t want to do. Clinton is a bare-faced liar, which we know very well from the scandal surrounding his affair with Monica Lewinski. I would suggest that anyone who truly wants to know the truth about Hillary Clinton looks into the truth about the leaked emails which are very shocking. If you haven’t looked into it, and just heard a few things about them, then you need to look a bit closer and see what she said and to whom. No one could reasonably deny that the evidence against Hillary is overwhelming.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        It is not. Please post a picture. As far as Monica Lewinsky goes, Clinton made a mistake was impeached for it and apologized to the nation and changed his ways. Trump, on the other hand cheated on a playboy bunny and his pregnant wife with a big breasted stripper and paid them money to keep their mouths shut, was impeached for far worse crimes, than Clinton and told America, Congress and the Constitution to get screwed, he would do what he wants. Humility and forgiveness be damned. There is no moral equivalent between Trump and Clinton. Clinton’s are imperfect, like the rest of us, Trump is satan. The leaked e-mails is such a bunch of phooey, especially since Trump has a private server of his own that has actual secrets, being kept from Congress and the American people. I am 65 and can assure you I have lived through three impeachments in my life, including my 3rd cousin Nixon. I have a BA in Information and Communication and an AA in journalism. I have worked in the media since 1986. Politically, I have always been well informed. You need to tell the difference between fake news and real news. Snopes, not that good.

      • sarah hodgins says:

        Free press? There is no such thing in most (all?) of the world. When the media is owned by monopolies of Globalists, you will never find true and objective news.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        I went to school for 5 years to learn to ask questions, get to the facts and report them. Like doctors, we have certain standards of factual, ethical and verifiable standards. Unlike uneducated people, like Rush Limbaugh Sean Hannity and many false prophets of Trump, we have been trained and made an oath to be truthful watch dogs of American freedom’s. including the freedom of the press, which without all other freedoms would disappear. All dictators undermine the press as a way of controlling his followers and that is exactly what Trump and his demonic ilk has done. Make America question the legitimacy of the press and our top law enforcement agencies. When you don’t Trump takes you out. Like the honorable Adam Schiff said in the impeachment trials “to go against Trump is to put your head on a pike.” More decent public servants are lining up to be beheaded by Trump’s sword of evil and served on a platter to King Trump. I believe in the America I grew up with since 1954. America under Trump is not a country to believe in.

    • Pat Johnston says:

      Please share factual information about Clinton and Satan. What I read was conspiracy theories baked up by the likes of Pat Buchanan.

      • Sarah says:

        Part of the problem is that in North America we are not given access to the true news. My friends in europe get quite “different” news there about what is going on in the US and the rest of the world. And CNN and Fox provide news so completely different from each other it makes you wonder if they are on the same planet! I dont think we will ever know what is actually going on (apart from the photos that show past presidents and other leaders in Luciferian owl worship). If you look up the Protocols of the elders of Sion, or Pawns in the Game, or Plot Against the Church, you will clearly see (and probably be severely disturbed) what they have planned and accomplished so far…neither Trump not Clinton(s) are angels and it is run so that no matter who wins the election, Lucifer controls all. But of course, God is ultimately in control. However to take our eyes off Jesus and debate politics is exactly what satan wants.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        That is what Trump and the Republicans say, but we have an excellent and free press. FOX was created by pervert Rupert Murdock, who was so pissed off by the fake news in the Nixon impeachment, he created FOX for the right. Not to be unbiased, bit biased.I watch FOX and the biggest difference during the impeachment was it was covered completely by everyone, but FOX. You are probably right, the end will happen when it happens, but right now Jesus is testing His church with Trump and they are failing miserably.

      • sarah hodgins says:

        Pat, I said I’m done. Bye.

  78. Pat Johnston says:

    They support Trump! Never before has a leader interfered with family. One of the many reasons his being is so evil.

    • Snoopy It Is says:

      Pat Johnston, as regards Trump, God uses whoever He wants. We have seen God bear with many evil rulers through the years; leave Him alone to bear with Trump as well. And as regards the Clintons, they are luciferians. It is multi-generational; you don’t really choose to be a part, so this isn’t about fault-finding but fact-finding. There are women who alleged that Hillary sexually abused them while they were little girls. There is also recorded evidence of Hillary, when she was an attorney, not only defending two men who raped a 12-year old but also later laughing about the 12-year-old’s rape. Chelsea Clinton does wear an upside-down cross; but if you must wait for satanists– who worship satan in secret but act normal and nice to the public– to break their oath and openly tell you that they are satanists, then you should not blaspheme God’s honor by calling yourself a christian, even with a small c: https://www.exposingsatanism.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Chelsea-Clinton-inverted-cross-necklace-bill-hillary-satanic-slaute-400×400.jpg

      The Bible tells us to focus on Jesus but to pray for ALL our leaders, not to malign them. Hating a person, especially without definitive reason, is usually proof that your own heart is not right. Pat Johnston, you don’t strike me as someone who listens to anything she doesn’t agree with, but I’ll still share this story:

      The very first time I heard from God was in the sixth grade (1991, I was 11 or 12 years old). There was a boy who I despised. His locker (for books) was several lockers from mine. One day as I took books out of my locker between periods (classes), I saw this boy in his locker and just despised him. Hatred is a trap emotion (which is why Jesus said to “beware of offense!”) because the one who hates truly feels justified and right. As I looked at this boy with deep resentment, God suddenly spoke to me and said, “Why do you hate that boy?” I was a little startled but began trying to find reasons: “He’s just… It’s just… I just…” I dug deep inside me to justify my hatred for this boy… but I found nothing. When God saw that I had realized that I had no justifiable reason to hate the boy, THEN He said to me, “Whenever you hate someone without real reason, the problem is not with the person. The problem is with you.” From that point on, I have never (ever) hated or resented anyone for personal reasons that I needed to justify or convince others about.

      We live in a self-entitled society where everyone thinks they should get what they want– including the president they want– and believes they can attack, malign, and slander those they disagree with and go without consequences and repercussions for those actions. This just ins’t true. The Bible says that people who insist on rejecting God in lifestyle or actions are stalked by God’s judgment. Stalking is secretive and quiet. Jungle cats stalk prey quietly. The Bible is saying that God’s judgment is silent. It doesn’t announce itself until a person’s time has come. Your hatred for Trump puts you in danger of God’s judgment. Your hatred also says nothing about Trump. Don’t let a culture of rebellion against authorities and hatred deceive you; God looks on your heart and will judge you accordingly.

      Trump is the first president in history against whom witches PUBLICLY gathered to curse and against whom witches appealed to others to curse to get him thrown out of office. Witches do not publicly curse people; they do all their works behind closed doors. satan does not attack, persecute, slander, or malign satan; on the other hand, satan and his people work like a well-oiled machine in unison and are FAR ahead of christians as regards spiritual matters and understanding. So then, if satan’s workers are cursing Trump PUBLICLY– a man who is supposedly the Anti-Christ and working for satan (you must note that satan never attacks his own)– then surely God must feel entirely differently. You need to spend your time making your calling and election sure, testing yourself to see if you’re in the faith (if you’re actually going to be saved when you stand at the judgment) rather than wasting your time reviling and maligning anyone.

      • Jenny Foster says:

        Thank you. What you have said is true.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Having a BA in Information and Communication and many years publishing and designing materials for the internet. I have a couple of concerns, the cross is blurry and one can easily manipulate the cross with a paste of shirt color over that part of the cross. Also, it is a picture with NO attribution and therefore an opinion cut and paste by a coward. Snoopy says “We live in a self-entitled society where everyone thinks they should get what they want– including the president they want– and believes they can attack, malign, and slander those they disagree with and go without consequences and repercussions for those actions. This just ins’t true. The Bible says that people who insist on rejecting God in lifestyle or actions are stalked by God’s judgment.” Yes, we do! Trump and his cult of haters lead the way. I don’t hate Trump, I hate what he says and does. I hate that the church has been so easily fooled and I hate that my brothers and sisters in Christ have lost their salvation, because they blindly worship Trump and will go to hell if they do not change their heart. I don’t respect anything witches do, but wouldn’t it be just like the Devil to rally his dark forces to curse Trump to make him look like a martyr. I only revile Trump and feel sorry for those deceived by him. Once again, no one who stands with Trump has any moral standing.

      • Jenny Foster says:

        Pat Johnston, “Once again, no one who stands with Trump has any moral standing.” That’s in your (humble?) opinion. Many others like myself would beg to differ and would say that no one who stands with Clinton has any moral standing. It’s just a matter of opinion, it’s not God’s truth. It seems that the Clintons are clever deceivers, like the Obamas, who appeal to many and do not appear to be Satanists which is what an in-depth investigation proves them to be. Look up Pizzagate – nobody has made that up. Trump is no saint that’s for sure, but it’s even more sure that the Clintons and the Obamas aren’t either. The truth is, you don’t know the truth, you only believe that you do. You have been deceived and fallen into the trap of the Enemy who wants people to fight over democrats and republics, left and right, apparently right and wrong, while he is laughing at people’s stupidity. This is not what God’s Word says. The Bible is clear, “There is no one righteous, NO NOT ONE”,

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Pat Johnston, you are like the Gadarene demoniac. You are so demonized that your words don’t make any sense. (Note: demonization isn’t a person’s fault. A person who isn’t demonized isn’t at fault for being demonized. However, demonization can cause several issues one of which is intense delusion such as we have in churches like Bethel in Redding, CA.) I won’t try to go over all the confusion you wrote, because it’s apparent that you can’t make sense of common sense itself not to mention truth. There are many pictures of Chelsea wearing an upside down cross. Why don’t you just say she doesn’t mean it against God and be done with it instead of saying that every single picture of her wearing an upside down cross was photoshopped.

        You hate Trump. There’s a difference in hating the wrong things a person does and hating the person. You hate Trump because your heart is not right. You mention accolades and mentions and forget that your value cannot increase in God’s eyes or in reality no matter how much ‘success’ you have. Your history and experiences don’t protect you from deception. You are under an incredibly strong delusion which can come on anyone but which only remains (perpetually) on those who reject the truth (ie. what God says) and receive the lie. The Bible tells you to pray for Trump, yet you reject that and instead call him names. You are so rebellious that you are beside yourself and cannot see it. When both Aaron and Miriam opposed Moses for marrying an Ethiopian, God only judged Miriam but not Aaron. There is only one real reason that God judged only Miriam when both her and Aaron were committing the same sin: “The Lord looks on the heart.” Aaron and Miriam both opposed Moses, however while Aaron did it out of ignorance, Miriam did it out of rebellion. There is only one other possible reason besides that: God loves men and hates women. And we know that isn’t true.

        Your heart isn’t right. Even in your writing it shows. A rebellious heart (Solomon calls it ‘a fool’) only has interest in expressing how it feels. It exposes itself with its mouth/speech, but because so many people are rebellious as well, the rebellious person doesn’t know that their rebellion is apparent to all (though most don’t understand what they are looking at). You don’t care if Trump wins the next ten elections, you will still rail against him. But the Bible says that ALL authority is instituted (not chosen but approved) by God. But you don’t care, and you want to make it Trump’s fault when it’s only yours. The more you rail against Trump, the more you prove that your heart is set against the Lord Himself and that you reject God and His Word. If you want to attempt to disprove this (and it is in your heart to do so because there is no change in you), then find one verse– just ONE– in the Bible that says that God’s people are to resist any type of leader, even wicked ones. Who are you deceiving. God has your number (and if you continue in this vein of rebellion and self-will and self-absorption, know for certain that you are marked out for God’s judgment; you will be alone and none of the people who believe as you do will be near to back or support you). But you don’t care. The rebellious aren’t smart enough to fear God; they only want to express their rebellion. But God will have His way with them when their times comes. #Trump2020. Do something to stop it.

      • Sarah says:

        Snoopy could you please provide links or proof about witches cursing Trump? I am very interested. It is definitely not out of the question, as, to my knowledge, Trump is against abortion. Clintons are certainly pro abortion. It is known that Hillary is a follower of that “How to Start a Revolution” book, which is dedicated to Lucifer, and the author was her fave prof (i forget his name). And Chelsea sent out a tweet last Christmas, greeting her “Satanist friends” (which should still be on Google). I have also seen a documentary exposing Hillary as threatening women who wanted to charge Bill with sex assault — but really I dont know if we can trust a lot of documentaries…
        Finally to say Bill just made a mistake — he lied in court. That is not a little thing.

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Sarah, I’ll share some links on that matter later today as I have to take care of some things now. But it’s important to believe the Bible over your eyes or experiences. The Bible in the OT and NT talks about satan’s MO and the MO of satan’s servants, so if you just believe the Bible, then you know satan has servants who are doing satan’s will and do not need articles and obvious evidence to know that it is all happening.

        When I lived in Baltimore many years ago, there was a news report that said that for every roach you saw in your home, there were about 700 more in your walls. It seemed like an exaggeration, but I had some roaches in my home at the time and one night– after I set out a fogger– found that there was nothing exaggerated about that statistic. Dead roaches were everywhere. The occult and servants of satan– according to satan’s MO– are also like that: for every one instance of satanism that ever even reaches the light of exposure (which doesn’t mean it will be nationally exposed but has simply been reported), there are THOUSANDS and hundreds of thousands more instances of satanism that will never be exposed to the light of day. So, anyone who thinks they’re smart by demanding “Show me evidence of satanism” should be treated like a lunatic and locked away in a mental institution until/unless a clear mind returns to them. That’s like saying. “Summon a demon right here in public view of everyone out in the bright sunshiny day” and thinking that will happen once in 100,000,000 attempts. ‘Occult’ means “hidden”. satan keeps his people in line; they are to remain hidden at all times except for instances when they send out subliminal (ie. HIDDEN messages) to others.

        Here is a documentary that was to be released that implicated wealthy and trusted ‘good people’ as far as the White House and that was banned by wealthy and powerful people who wanted to keep the facts HIDDEN to the extent that the production team was paid $500,000 so that the documentary would not be aired: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DquLnRycZms. Anyone who demands evidence of what is hidden– whether that thing is God or molecules or satanists– should immediately be treated as a lunatic and totally disregarded and ignored. The person is a fool and is often unwilling to acknowledge evidence even when it is provided. Have nothing to do with such people. They’re only wasting your time.

  79. sarah hodgins says:

    Pat, you make it sound like there are only Christians in the US and the only God is concerned about is Trump! Where in the Bible does it say that God will test ANY Christians with ANY political leader? You know what it says? Pray for your leaders in government!!

    Where is the USA in the Bible? God is above politics, we are supposed to keep our eyes on heaven, and the antichrist is not necessarily American! I highly doubt that either Hillary or Donald are the antichrist, since the antichrist will be a man, mostly like Hebrewesque, and in Jerusalem at a time when there is a Jewish temple there (not happening too soon). There have been countless leaders (dictators) in the world since the first century who have done far more evil than these latest leaders. Let’s try not to be so concerned in this smoke screen and instead trust in God to deliver us.

    • Snoopy It Is says:

      If I hadn’t been a christian since at least 1986, I would have been beside myself reading Pat Johnston’s comments here. Unfortunately, I know something about christians that most christians haven’t figured out yet (sadly): christianity verifiably usually makes people TWICE worse than they were before they became christians. In 1998 when my best friend who was a new christian told me that he didn’t feel that the people in our church loved him, I immediately responded, “Of course they don’t love you. They’re christians; they don’t love anybody.” Sad day when you can say this and all the spirits, good and bad, in the heavens agree with you. This is what christianity is today. Where there is no love, the focus is always off.

      Jesus many times touched on the fact that ‘christianity’ usually makes people TWICE worse (in their hearts, not in their actions) than they previously were such as in the parable of the good Samaritan and also when He said to the christian ministers of His day: “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them TWICE as much a child of hell as you are” (Matt. 23:15).

      Before christianity, everyone is a ‘child of hell’; after christianity, most people become TWICE worse than they previously were. With my observations, I’d put the percentage of unsaved christians (ie. people who ‘follow’ Jesus as they want Him to be, not as He in fact is) in America at no less than 95% of christians in America. I later learned that Leonard Ravenhill, a man of God whose heart beat for the things on God’s heart, put the percentage of unsaved American christians at 97%. My estimate sounds better, but unfortunately, Ravenhill has been more places than I have, and I believe his estimate to be correct.

      I say all the above because the comments, especially from Pat Johnston, major 100% in fruitless talk, like trying to bring down a tree by using snippers to focus all cutting on its branches. You can’t bring down a tree by snipping at its branches; you must bring it down by cutting at the trunk or by uprooting it. The things on God’s heart are so much higher than who is president and who is the Anti-Christ. At the top of this page on the right is this verse: “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge” (Hosea 4:6). This truth cannot be overstated for modern christians, especially in America where christians– who tend to be the least intelligent people– think that they have all knowledge.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        I was born again at Calvary Chapel,when I was 17 in 1971. I was a street evangelist for 7 years in San Francisco. I was a Sunday School teacher, a member of the board for Aglow and studied powers and principalities at Bethel. If you are so into love, why do you support an evil, vindictive, President. You are right 80% of so-called Christians follow Trump or to say it like the Bible says a great falling away 2nd Thessolonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;. If Trump is the man of perdition, then the falling away has already happened and if you follow Trump, you are one of the fallen.

      • sarah hodgins says:

        Sadly most people are not actual Christians, and if they are saved, they will have a lot to answer for. But that brings me back to myself, I have enough to do trying to live like a Christian. It is sort of pointless to worry about the millions, except to pray and try to do what we can to convert them

      • sarah hodgins says:

        Snoopy, do you really believe Bible says that :ALL authority is instituted (not chosen but approved) by God”?
        That is exactly what the Nazis told the Germans. It also means that you would then have to approve of or support Bush, Obama and the Clintons. It says we are to pray for them. It doesn’t say we need to love them (except to love them like any other unsaved person who needs help)

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Sarah Hodgins, the Bible says a lot of things that are… questionable. On the surface. It says God is the one who creates evil. It also says that God caused David to sin and then judged Isreal (but not David) for it. It plainly shows God telling Israel to kill whole nations, including innocent babies. Why? This goes to show that you are not supposed to depend on your own reasoning when you read the Bible but are to depend solely on the Holy Spirit (while employing your own reasoning but not depending on it) to reveal the truth to you. Jesus expressly says that the Holy Spirit will lead us into all truth. Why are we still trying to figure it out on our own?

        “Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same… you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing. Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor” (Rom.13:1-3, 5-7).

        On the surface, this clearly says that we are all to be subject to ALL authority because ALL authority is instituted by God (the passage is even clear that this is talking about secular authorities, not just church ones). This doesn’t make sense does it? This is why you are to read the entire Bible, not just parts of it, while depending on the Holy Spirit to reveal or explain it to you. In 1John 2, John said that no one needs to depend on human teachers since the Holy Spirit (the anointing) teaches you from the inside. This isn’t saying not to have teachers but to DEPEND on the Spirit so that you listen more to HIM than to those who teach you. This is why we have many teachers but few with God’s anointing on their teaching. The anointing (the Holy Spirit) EXPLAINS things and doesn’t just tell them. The Bible tells you; the Holy Spirit EXPLAINS what it is telling you:

        “The UNFOLDING (entrance) of Your words gives light; it gives understanding to the simple” (Psalm 119:130).

        Just reading God’s Word doesn’t guarantee you will understand it; the Holy Spirit must EXPLAIN (unfold) it so that it actually ‘enters’ into your heart or understanding. There is a difference between authority and power. They are totally different. The Bible doesn’t say to submit to the POWER of people but to their AUTHORITY. Humans teach each other to submit to people’s power while thinking they are submitting to authority; this always goes wrong such as when kids are taught to obey (submit to) their elders and then many adults take advantage of kids because of this. Power is a person’s will exercised towards or exerted over another.

        Authority is legal right to proceed (not to harm but to have first say). Yes, many people in positions of authority exercise their power and call it authority; but ALL authority is from God (as it’s an office) while not all power is from God. This is why the Bible says to “honor your father and mother in the Lord” even if they abuse you and want you dead. It is talking about their position which is from God, not from them. Their position (authority) is good, but the way they use their power may or may not be good. You are not to submit to power but to authority. Authority is so important that God and His angels respect lucifer and his angels and vice-versa. As hateful as lucifer is, he will not make one hateful move without authority to do so. Remember when lucifer appeared before God concerning Job? Remember when Jesus said to the apostles, “Simon, Simon, satan has ASKED for you [all] that he may sift you [all] as wheat. But I have prayed for you…” satan asked God for the authority (not power)– the right– to test the apostles. The fact that Jesus said He prayed for them implies that satan, upon asking, was permitted to test them which he did only because he had the authority to do so.

        “Let EVERY soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.” All authority is from God. But not power (the way those in or not in authority exert their power) is from God. In the same way, all wisdom leads to God; yet not all knowledge leads to God.

    • Pat Johnston says:

      If America and the “christian ” church is the whore of Babylon, then it will have the blood soul” of saints on her hands. Revelation 17: 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. 7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. On top of that all the parables about 1/2 being taken and 1/2 being left. Jesus is talking to the church when he says in Matthew 7: 21 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you ..On top of the scripture of separating the wheat from the chaff. Jesus is talking to the church, not sinners. What determines whether you get raptured or stay behind, the scripture clearly tells us the workers of lawlessness. Trump is the most lawless President America has ever had and people , who supposedly love Christ worship and follow him, no matter how evil and corrupt he is.Like Nancy Pelosi, my husband and I pray every day for our leaders trying to break the curse Satan has put on this country with his servant Trump. You are right we are not to look left or right, but keep our eyes on God. I am not supporting one party over the other, I keep my eyes on Jesus and the Word. You are right God has teasted many generations over the years with brutal dictators and political monsters. Many Christians supported Hitler, in the same way they do now with Trump. Those Christians turned their back, even in the face of mass murder. Satan has been trying to destroy the church, since day one and often the church is responsible for the evil that comes forth. This is exactly the same situation. The Devil has convinced you Trump is of the Lord, when he is of the Devil. His rotten fruit prove it,

      • Sarah says:

        For some reason I can only reply to some comments but not all. I am NOT just directing this to Pat. I have been atheist, agnostic, half Buddhist, a new age witch, and the 3 main types of Christian (catholic, orthodox and protestant baptist Presbyterian etc) and most Christians are indeed pretty pathetic, hateful hypocrites. Pat, I am not American, but believe me, most of the world has an opinion on American politicians. Trump is …bizarre.. at times and is in no way an angel. But compared to Hillary in particular, he is a saint but that is just MY OPINION. (Allcaps cuz I cannot bold). Do I like either one? Nope. To choose the lesser evil is sometimes all that can be done, tho perhaps it might be better to not vote and just pray for the leader. That is what I did this past election. God seems to leave politics up to us,and we are allowed to have our own opinions. PLEASE DON’T DAMN EACH OTHER BASED ON POLITICS!!!! it is not that important! Saving souls is important. Why someone votes for this or that is NONE OF OUR BUSINESS!!

      • sarah hodgins says:

        Well, let’s keep in mind that God used Cyrus and other political leaders in the past, some of whom believed in God, some didn’t, but it was to do His will. I doubt Cyrus was a wonderful, perfect man. He certainly wasn’t a Christian, or even a sort of proselyte Jew! God used him, but that does not mean he was perfect or saved or anything at all. It doesn’t prove anything except that God uses whom He will. There are many American Christians who seem to idolize Trump, but I wonder if this is because he promises things they want? Of course that’s what every politician does!!! I don’t know. No one on earth is perfect, and that includes Trump. About Hitler — many people supported him because he lied to them and gave them what they wanted. Really. not much different from any other leader. He just got away with horrific crimes — but not more than other leaders that people don’t seem to mind, like Stalin, who killed and exiled something like 30,000,000 or more people — but that is another topic….

      • sarah hodgins says:

        I don’t think the USA is the Whore of Babylon. People have been trying to figure this out for 2000 years and this is just the latest theory. Keeping in mind that the USA didn’t even exist until about 250 years ago, it seems a bit odd to claim this. Remember that people have been calling various popes, kings, and other leaders the “Antichrist” since the book of Revelation was written! Pat, there is no worry about destroying the Church. God will not allow it. Trump will come and go like all the others. I know it can be difficult to accept but there are Christians who are Republicans and Democrats, and everything else. Guess what — there were real Christians who were on the German side in WW2!! I have met some. They (deceased now) were lovely people who loved Jesus. Let’s maybe leave this stuff up to God to judge, and remember that we do not know everything that is going on. And Pat, if you are interested, there is a lot of information about the hidden agenda of the Luciferians. They run the world. But God will judge and punish them.

      • sarah hodgins says:

        Hi Pat, here is a link to a photo where it does appear that she is wearing an upside down cross, although it would help if it was a lot clearer: https://twitter.com/WasabiKimarie/status/1040682960809328640/photo/4

  80. Pat Johnston says:

    I understand better where you are coming from. I have tried for years to find a church where Jesus resides, before Trump. There was so much bigotry and hate coming from the pulpit. Turn to Jesus and the Word for your answers. Man and religion is not the answer. As times get more complicated and evil, everyone thinks they have the answer, but they don’t…I don’t. That is why I rely heavily on God’s Word to back me up. My opinion is not important. The Word of God is. When people make Jesus look bad by supporting an evil man who is bent on destroying America. It is my business.

    • Jenny Foster says:

      Pat Johnston, Please keep it real. America doesn’t need anyone to destroy it, it already set itself on a path of destruction a long time ago. So you are one of those who very foolishly believes that if it wasn’t for Trump, everything would be fine. That is not what the Bible says, and Christians are not supposed to make it up as they go along. Christians are supposed to keep to what the Bible says – you are not doing that.

      • sarah hodgins says:

        Jenny you are right. America, like all the other western nations have been, is going to be crippled and taken over by inside forces that really only God controls (allows). This was planned centuries (millennia?) ago and though certain leaders could possibly postpone it a bit…well it won’t work unfortunately…God is allowing the Luciferians to do what they want so He can work out His ultimate will, which He will do! The scariest thing I have seen lately is that Sweden is pushing the implanting of tiny microchip type things…in the hand.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        I’m sorry you are so mislead by conspiracy theories. The best thing I ever did, besides getting married, having my three children and finding the Lord. Going to college allowed me to think out of the box and break away from a family full of uneducated bigots Colleges are called liberal for one main reason, because to be liberal is to be open minded. To be conservative is to be close minded. How are you to learn the truth if your teachers are not open minded, like Liberty College. It teaches you how to be a Christian bigot Not good for anyone. Once again you use the word liberal and socialism is a bad thing, when your President is trying acting like a facist and communist dictator. Once again, you have no moral standing, as long as you stand with Trump. If Trump and the right can make people distrust the real media, then he can and has already brainwashed you enough to control you. If we can’t believe in our institutions, like the free press and FBI, America is doomed. Do you have a degree for graphic arts? My degree includes graphic arts and layout. I could easily Photoshop that meme and when their is no proper attribution, then it is fake news. It is like Snoopy it is, anyone can have a fake name, but it takes real courage to stand by your opinion, as a real person. Ir is so funny that you call the best in the media business fake, but take an unattributed, fake photo, as God’s truth.

      • Jenny Foster says:

        It’s sad how you are in denial that you are utterly obsessed with Trump and your hatred of him, and so you can’t see you are in disobedience to God.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        America has always been great, even though flawed. It is and always has been the best country for the last 200 years, until Trump took a major dump on its Constitution, rule of law and the American people. I believe God is testing the church with Trump and if the church rejects him, America will be saved. If they continue to support him, all will be lost. I believe the Devil has his plans to destroy the church using Trump and he has. Never before has the church been so disdained for being such hypocrites before Trump. The lack of growth, fruits and attendance proves the church is on the wrong track. The spirit of Jezebel is breaking out from Trump and being spread through the church, like wild fire.

      • Jenny Foster says:

        There is not one but a number of ways you are in disobedience. For a start, you are not Christ-centred, you are Trump-centred. The Bible is clear, if someone is a position of leadership it’s because God put them there or allowed them to be there. The Bible says to pray for your leaders, instead, you are hate campaigning against Trump. If God wants Trump in office, and you cannot possibly know the answer to that – you may even be working against God. It seems to me you think you know too much, and that you know a whole lot more than the Bible tells us which makes you prideful, which as you know is an abomination to God.

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Yes, pray for leaders– not for them to prosper in wickedness or wrongdoing but for God to lead and guide and direct and bless them, because His blessings don’t promote or approve evil but are meant to lead to repentance and salvation. God blesses those who honor those in authority.

        I recently worked for someone in authority who could use a lot of help. The article on this page is about the Jezebel spirit, but there’s also an Ahab spirit or mindset. In America, women are raised in such a way as to be moderately to very open to the Jezebel spirit, and men are raised the same way regarding the Ahab spirit. The man I worked for had an Ahab mindset (a hatred for responsibilities, abdicating his authority to narcissistic people and Jezebels, extreme passivity, an almost non-existent moral compass and along with it an inability or refusal to stand up for any issue of justice– all the responsibilities that God gave men).

        Watching this man defend the wicked people and persecute the innocent (I told God in no uncertain terms that he was an idiot), I was starting to near my wits’ end– the mysterious place where the oceans fall off the flat earth’s edge. Then God told me to honor the man ONLY because he owned the business and therefore was an authority. (To honor includes a level of forgiveness. Just like we forgive the shortcomings of those we honor in the flesh for our sake, we are to forgive the shortcomings of those we honor in the spirit for God’s sake.) In time, God will deal with authorities who do evil or who refuse to repent. Our only part is to pray for God to bless them (ie. to influence in good ways and towards good) which isn’t a prayer for God to bless their wickedness, so we don’t have to fear that praying for a wicked person in authority will cause God to overlook and wink on their wickedness because God never does that. Praying for leaders (especially wicked ones) is for our sakes– as we stand before God– far more than it is for theirs.

    • sarah hodgins says:

      Here is her twitter feed to the church of satan…https://twitter.com/WasabiKimarie/status/1040682960809328640/photo/1
      I mean, sure maybe they photoshopped it but…she admitted to being friends with everyone (implying satanists) and did not retract this

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Adding to the issue of authority, there is so much to be said about it. I could go on forever about it. Watchman Nee’s ‘Spiritual Authority’ is all about this topic. Some people say that all sins are the same to God. Too simplistic. The Bible lists different kinds of sins: sin, trespass, transgression, iniquity, rebellion, wickedness, abomination, etc. No one is going to hell for sinning but for rebelling against God. Sinning isn’t rebellion in itself; REJECTING God (or rejecting Jesus as Savior and Lord, the sin which can’t be forgiven) is rebellion, and God hates it.

        As God sees it, if a man abuses his wife (and she puts up with it), it’s sin mostly on HIS part; but if a wife abuses her husband (and he puts up with it), it’s an abomination on BOTH their parts. If parents dominate their child, it’s sin; but if a child dominates his/her parents, it’s an abomination. When God told the Israelites to destroy entire nations, He was blotting out abominations and wickedness of the rebellious, not their sins. In that context He gave very strong warnings to Israel about worshiping other gods (an abomination, not just sin), mingling with those who worshiped other gods, and taking or receiving things that are dedicated to other gods.

        “You must burn up the images of [the other nations’] gods; do not covet the silver and gold that is on them or take it for yourselves, or you will be ensnared by it; for it is detestable [an abomination] to the LORD your God. And you must not bring any detestable (accursed. abominable) thing into your house, or you, like it, will be set apart for destruction. You are to utterly detest and abhor it, because it is set apart for destruction” (Deu. 7:25-26).

        People who resist authority that God instituted, even ungodly authorities, are putting themselves under God’s judgment. The Bible talks about ‘despising authorities’ and christians aren’t even allowed to ‘despise’ (ie. mock, deride, disdain, rail against) satan and the other fallen princes. They lost their positions in Heaven, yet they still retain their authority, so railing against them brings God’s judgment, because ALL authority is instituted by God. Michael, the chief prince of Israel, was not even allowed to revile satan. This is according to God’s structure of authority. In this passage, Jesus distinguishes authority from power (He doesn’t explain it; that is what the Holy Spirit was given for):

        “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and those who are great exercise authority over them. Yet it shall not be so among you; but whoever desires to become great among you, let him be your servant. And whoever desires to be first among you, let him be your slave— just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many” (Matt. 20:25-28).

        Paraphrase: “You all are Jews and know that the pagan Gentiles who are in positions of AUTHORITY exert their POWER over those they rule over… But not so with you.” So, people in positions of authority can lord their power over others, but their power is not their authority. Their authority comes from God; their power comes from their flesh. Again, Jesus told the apostles, “satan has asked for you [all] that he may sift you [all] as wheat.” satan had the power to destroy all those apostles for the next hundred million years, but he didn’t have the authority (the RIGHT) to do it. He had to ask God for that, because ALL authority comes from God. If Hillary Clinton was president and chose to publicly sacrifice children, christians are still not allowed to rail against her. Railing and accusation come from the flesh (and soul), not from the spirit.

        If something is bad, you acknowledge it, speak to others about it, and pray. But as soon as your own personal emotions get into it, then you are now in sin and even if you were against an enemy of God, resisting their authority (position, right) in your flesh will ‘force’ God to turn and be against you. This happened to Israel over and over when they thought they could get away with anything because they thought that God was on their side. But God, contrary to narcissistic, self-centered christianity, is only on God’s side. Everyone else, angels included, must then choose to be for or against Him because He won’t be for them unless they are for Him. It’s best to speak opinions about leaders but to never speak against them. God hates this a great deal and the fact is spread throughout the Bible. In our age of cheap Grace, we have forgotten that God is holy and in the end, only His opinions count.

        “And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, a Man (Jesus, the God of Israel) stood opposite him with His sword drawn in His hand. And Joshua went up to Him and said to Him, ‘Are You for us or for our adversaries?’ So the Man said, “NEITHER, but as the Commander of the army of the Lord (God the Father) I have now come.’ And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and worshiped, and said to Him, ‘What does my Lord say to His servant?’ Then the Commander of the Lord’s army said to Joshua, ‘Take your sandal off your feet, for the place where you stand is holy ground.’ And Joshua did so” (Joshua 5:13-15).

      • Sarah says:

        Thank you for interesting posts. It drives me nuts when people say that stealing a pen from the office is the same to God as murder. It is ridiculous!

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Right. Stealing a pen from a store and armed robbery to get something you need can be counted under the same type of sin to God. Proverbs often distinguishes the different types of sin. In Proverbs 6, for example, it talks about the wicked, the abominable, and the sinner (the wicked and the abominable are similar but very different). For example, look at how God feels about the wicked (they won’t escape judgment), the abominable (like the angels who had sex with women, they’re already judged and just ‘waiting’), and the sinner (God pardons him, BUT man’s laws still apply to him):

        1.) The Wicked: “A worthless person, a wicked man, walks with a perverse mouth; he winks with his eyes, he shuffles his feet, he points with his fingers; perversity is in his heart, he devises evil continually, he SOWS DISCORD. Therefore his calamity shall come suddenly; suddenly he shall be broken without remedy.”

        2.) The Abominable: “These six things the Lord hates, yes, seven are an abomination to Him: a proud look, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that are swift in running to evil, a false witness who speaks lies, and one who SOWS DISCORD AMONG BRETHREN.”

        3.) The Sinner: “People do not despise a thief if he steals to satisfy himself when he is starving. Yet when he is found, he must restore sevenfold; he may have to give up all the substance of his house.”

        To God, obedience to Him outranks everything else. Thankfully, you don’t have to get it perfect to be saved, but the obedient are in a different class from everyone else who will be saved. (Check Hebrews 11 for reference.) The OT mentions many prophecies about Jesus, and the NT says several times that Jesus did such and so in order to FULFILL prophecy. But there was only one thing more important to Jesus than fulfilling prophecy; it was being obedient to God. The OT never prophesied that John the Baptist would baptize Jesus (as important as that was); yet look at Jesus’s first recorded words in the Bible (the NT): when He went to John to be baptized and John told Him that He should be baptizing him instead, Jesus responded, “Let it be so now, because IT IS BECOMING OF US to FULFILL all righteousness” (Matt. 3:15). They weren’t fulfilling any prophecy. Apparently, God told Jesus to go get baptizesd, but the Bible purposely doesn’t record it for us. However, Jesus told John that it was BECOMING of both He and John to “fulfill all righteousness”– ie. to obey God. Why was it becoming for them two in particular? Because Jesus was the Son of God and John was His messenger who was filled with the Holy Spirit in the womb. They truly desired to obey God because God was IN them working out that desire. We value the things that are in our hearts, so we naturally act on what we value. That’s what Jesus was saying here.

        Like Psalm 91, this passage represents Jesus first but also represents all who know that God desires our obedience to Him above all else and who therefore desire to be obedient to Him above all else: “Sacrifice and offering You did not desire; my ears You have opened. Burnt offering and sin offering You did not require. Then I said, ‘Behold, I come; in the scroll of the book it is written of me. I delight to do Your will, O my God, and YOUR LAW IS WITHIN MY HEART'” (Psalm 40:6-8).

      • Thank you for your excellent posts. Yes, God asks us for obedience, and that means we need to keep to what the Bible says. We are warned not to add to or take away from it, and make it up as we go along. The Bible certainly doesn’t definitely mention America or any of today’s politicians by name, so we can’t be sure. We know the devil is very good at deceiving people and we should always bear that in mind. We can be sure that we are out of line if we claim that we know the details of what is happening in these Last Days, when we don’t, we can only guess. We are told to pray for our leaders, not to rebel against them.

      • Sarah says:

        Snoopy, I agree that we must spend time in the whole Bible, not just the NT, and when I went thru the Bible (via audio) recently I was shocked to see how much God talks about obedience and about how much He hates idolatry more than other things.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Sarah, you are right God allows certain evil leaders to be put into leadership roles to test the church and bring sinners to salvation. As far as the memes you posted, they prove nothing except the person who did them were not very good at making them look real. As far as the person who posted, she has no standing as a journalist and other than her no real attribution. This is truly fake news, as no one has proven anything with real photos or statements.

      • sarah hodgins says:

        Pat, you said somewhere that you have a degree in communication from a US uninversity (or something related, like journalism). Although often education can be really important and useful for some subjects, in the light of the fact that pretty much 99% of all universities in the Western World are liberal/socialist and they are almost all completely owned and run by the Globalists, such a degree is basically useless to a Christian… if not actually harmful, if you are seeking for truth. It is not really an education most Christians would tend to go for. This causes me to doubt your arguments.

        The fact that you said earlier somewhere that you in the US have a “free and open media” (or something very similar) is absolutely ridiculous. NO ONE has a free media. Least of all YOU. It’s a fact that all the major media in the USA is owned by the same group of elites. The fact that you actually believe that the media is free to tell the truth shows that you are not living in reality and that you are not really open to learning the truth. (European news shows things about the US that people in the US have no clue about — so you know that your news is censored.)

        And that you called what I posted “memes”..????—those are not memes. They are just photos, some with descriptions…which you immediately shrug off as photoshopped and posted by some unreliable journalist. Have you ever used Photoshop? I am a graphic designer. It is NOT that easy to photoshop an image —especially of a person—- and have it look realistic, despite what many people say. And if you disallow those photos and videos, then you must disallow anything of or by Trump. You can’t have it both ways.

        It just seems that you just want to argue and argue. I am done, this is a waste of time and energy.

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Pat Johnston will do nothing but waste your time and energy. A five-year-old, for the most part, can ascertain what is true or false. You shouldn’t trust (or believe) an adult who cannot.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Snoopy: I did not realize you were five. No wonder you are so easily swayed by lies.

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        It’s too bad that you think derision affects me. It’s proof that you are currently in a state of damnation– the damnation reserved for the rebellious and those who hate God. I know you don’t understand anything spiritual, but I’ll share it because I know I like reading it (by the way, if you can tell me what this passage means, then I will know you have the Holy Spirit in you; but if you can’t tell me what it means, then you better commit every wicked act you can now, because judgment is waiting for you):

        “Now I, Paul, myself am pleading with you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ—who in presence am lowly among you, but being absent am bold toward you. But I beg you that when I am present I may not be bold with that confidence by which I intend to be bold against some, who think of us as if we walked according to the flesh” (2Cor. 10:1-2).

        You think that I’m like you– that I’m a carnal christian and that therefore you can say and do things to provoke me. But I can foretell how you will feel, what you will say, and what you will do before you do them, because you have chosen to reject God, and all who choose that think, feel, and act the same way. lucifer, more intelligent than any human being, is such a slave to wickedness (ie. rebellion against God for which he was cast out of Heaven) that even though he was told directly and heard throughout the Old Testament that Jesus would save mankind by dying on a cross– and even though lucifer used Peter to try to stop Jesus from going to the cross– lucifer, a slave to wickedness, had to do wickedness and kill Jesus. He didn’t want Jesus to take the keys of authority from him and knew that killing Jesus would do just that, yet he killed Jesus because the wicked must do wickedness though it brings damnation on them. Isn’t that nice.

        So, Pat Johnston, I am well ahead of you. I know how you feel, the thoughts in your heart about God, yourself, and others (pure self-centeredness and rebellion against God), and the things you will say and do. I know how you will try to provoke emotions and feelings and responses. And I can tell you all of these ahead of time and you, trying hard to disprove me, will still do them. You are a slave to wickedness (unrighteousness) and think you are free. You disdain and deride others but the disdain and condemnation are on you. And I can see it. So, consult with whoever you need to and try to find and choose words to try to provoke me. You don’t get it (the wicked never do); you really think everyone is like you just like satan when he told God that Job would curse God if God took away his position (like satan did). You are stuck– not nearly as intelligent as lucifer who also is stuck and is driven to do evil even after God, whom he hates, foretells it (look at all the prophecies satan is helping God to fulfill now), your obssessive-compulsive disorder to rebel and hate and slander and disdain is controlling you and will demand and require that you feel, think, and act in ways that are disdainful and self-serving. And you can’t escape it because you’ve chosen it. Jesus told Nicodemus that it’s only those who are led by the Spirit who cannot be predicted all the time (“the wind blows wherever it wishes… so is everyone who is born of the Spirit”); but those who live in the flesh can always be predicted to a T, and they might rail and rage, but they are bound by sin and are not free to live AS THEY PLEASE. In the end, bad people can only do evil; but good people can do good or bad. Bad people can be predicted, but good people can’t be. But you’re bragging about how predictable you are.

        If satan would have just left Jesus alone and not attacked Him through the religious leaders, Jesus would have lived to old age and would have had to die a natural death, therefore, no one would be saved. DID YOU KNOW THAT? But satan, like you, had an obssessive-compulsive disorder to do wrong, to harm and malign and accuse and attack and rebel. If he had self-control, the world that God so loved would not be saved. satan had to do himself in by killing Jesus. Told ahead of time that his deeds would exalt Jesus, satan went ahead and exalted Jesus– the LAST thing he wanted to do. He is still driven to do evil and in so doing, not only fulfilling the prophecies that his enemy God spoke but also making Jesus’s return sure. If satan would just hold off and stop causing evil and wars and all the things the Bible said would happen, then Jesus could not return because Jesus said, “These things must happen and then the end will come.” Who is doing “these things” that will bring the end at which time satan will sit on hot flames for all eternity? satan himself. He is a slave to wickedness; he cannot control himself. And neither can you. So tell me: why should I be affected by what you have to say when you are a Kamikaze pilot insisting on your own death and I rather prefer to live– when you are doing what is uncommon in seeking your own death and damnation when self-preservation is innate even in animals? Your heart is hard and your ears closed and you can’t understand any of these words, because to the rebellious (like Pharaoh), God doesn’t matter nor His words and commands. You say you have studied but you know nothing. I’m not impressed by your performance. But don’t stop. The wickedness in your heart will motivate and DRIVE you to respond with disdain. The laugh is on you. Let it be for you according to the prophecy: “Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy” (Revelation 22:11). Do not upset God’s order by having a change of heart. I’m counting on you.

      • Sarah says:

        Hi Snoopy, I enjoy your thoughtful posts. Just wondering if Jesus would not have died in natural old age but rather would have “failed” to die, what with his lack of sin? Also thank you for pointing out and reminding us how vindictiveness and obsession are satanic characteristics

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Snoopy I think it is so funny that Trump supporters get their outraged panties in a twist, when someone responds in kind. You inferred that I had the mental capacity of a five year old or that I lack spiritual understanding and I am a carnal Christian, whatever that means. I do not think you are like me. I think you are part of the fallen church, if you support Trump or obviously have you not actually read what I write. You just know how I am going to respond. Okay, so now you have the mind of God and can decipher what I am thinking, before I think it. A little problem with a God complex ?Trump christians are “driven to do evil even after God, whom he hates, foretells it (look at all the prophecies satan is helping God to fulfill now), your obssessive-compulsive disorder to rebel and hate and slander and disdain is controlling you and will demand and require that you feel, think, and act in ways that are disdainful and self-serving.” See how that works either way. Only I am not the person following the Devil Trump, you are, just like the Bible prophesied. I am not going to respond to the rest of your incoherent rant, except to say when Trump or his followers don’t have anything intelligent to say, they attack and babble incoherently, hoping to baffle with BS. Good luck convincing Jesus on Judgement Day that your excuses for supporting the man of lawlessness was good for the church, America and the world.

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Pat Johnston, I support any office of authority no matter who occupies it. And I support Trump. You should join the witches who publicly curse Trump to get him out of office. Please don’t respond to me anymore. The Bible says not to argue with fools so let’s not argue with each other. #Trump2020. #TrumpJr2024-32. #IvankaTrump2032-2040. #CandaceOwens2040-2048. #EricTrump2048-2056. #TrumpFamilyUntilTheLordComes. > _ <

      • sarah hodgins says:

        I am still fascinated with this idea of witches cursing Trump…or anyone at all, for that matter. The whole so-called point of witchcraft is supposedly “whatever you do comes back to you, times 3” so they are actually cursing themselves threefold…and if it is true that they are really cursing him, that makes me wonder why. Is he saving too many babies from abortion? Or trying to help people keep their jobs or something? Not letting enough commies have their way?? It’s fascinating. Also ridiculous how witches believe they have so much power. Make them hold a metal cross in their hand and they will see how much power they have…Fools, …speaking of which, we better pray for those lost souls!!!

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Sarah, thanks for reminding me. I forgot to give you a link to an article that talks about witches publicly cursing Trump. There have been many of them doing it and also calling for others to do it. Here is one article about it: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39090334

        The above article begins, “Most of Donald Trump’s opponents believe they will have to wait four more years to see him leave the White House. But America’s witches are more optimistic. At the stroke of midnight on Friday, followers of witchcraft across the US performed a mass spell designed to stop the president doing harm. A Facebook group devoted to the ritual has attracted over 10,500 likes, and coined the hashtag #magicresistance.”

        The Democrats were trying to do the same thing (ie. get Trump out of office before 2020). Witches never do God’s will. The OT was extremely harsh against all forms of occultism telling Israel, “You must not permit a witch to live.” Modern witches see it as just a belief, but it’s very high-level abomination to God. And if witches cursed Trump publicly (witches openly casting spells has never been seen in the U.S. as far as I recall) and Democrats became vessels to do what the witches wanted (ie. remove Trump from office), it only proves that satan wants Trump out of office. We can reasonably then conclude that God wants Trump in office. I have seen the enemy act up and come out of hiding only when something of great import was on the line. He never fails to stick to the same MO (ie. remain in hiding until someone poses him a threat just as he did with Jesus).

        You said you wonder why the witches are cursing Trump. I already said it above, and the Bible says it a lot. Ephesians 2:1-3 says, “[You Ephesians] were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.” “The prince of the power of the air” (the enemy and his hosts) works in people through “the course of this world” which means satan influences, manipulates, and controls people through their own social standards, cultural belief systems, and worldviews. (We see this happen even with the 12 apostles whose Jewish cultural lenses caused the enemy to be able to prevent them from taking the Gospel to the Gentiles since Jews believe(d), “God is God of the Jews only, not God of the Gentiles.”) “Sons of disobedience” are people who live for self/pleasure and not for God. satan has LEGAL RIGHTS to and in them, and he uses them, not because they serve him but because they have turned their backs on God: “No man can serve two masters.” You have to choose Jesus or self (in choosing self, you choose satan and give him legal right to affect, manipulate, control, and use you as a vessel to do even things you don’t agree with).

        You said witches think they have power. They don’t think; they do have it. They are assigned as plants in churches and christian communities. They preach, read the Bible, pray, rebuke satan, come against satan, and do all the things christians do within christian circles. Depending on their rank (and other variables) witches do have power. Their power is only canceled by Jesus’s power. When Jesus’s power isn’t available or in use, then the witches’ power is powerful indeed. After Israel defeated Jericho, they went against a less-powerful army and lost. They lost simply because one of the Israelites (Achan) had taken some things that were dedicated to other gods and therefore dedicated by God to destruction. Today, we would call those items ‘curses objects’. Israel lost in battle because ONE man had taken items that witches had cursed (so to speak). Also, read 2Kings 3. It’s a story in which God said that Israel would defeat Moab; but because Moab’s king sacrificed his son to his gods, Israel DIDN’T win because those gods fought against Israel. Read the story.

        There are different levels of witches and some are not powerful at all; but witchcraft itself is indeed powerful (for those who graduate past the first stage) and can and DOES affect christians. There are many stories such as the christian family who began to expereince poverty on their return from Mexico until, during a fast, the Lord exposed that the beggar figurines they bought as souvenirs were cursing their home with poverty. Another christian couple began experiencing marital infidelity on return from Japan until the Lord revealed through prayer that the Geisha hat (Japanese prostitute) they brought into their home from Japan as a souvenir was the problem. In every case, there was no healing until the witchcraft items were destroyed and thrown out. Witchcraft is so powerful that a witch doesn’t even have to curse you or be around or near you; you just have to buy one article that has been devoted to a god other than God. Once you open your heart to it (ie. receive or accept it; align your heart with it and see it as favorable), then the curse, like the gears of a new clock starting to turn, will begin to work against you.

        Don’t let anyone deceive you: what is true on the good side is true on the bad and vice versa; eg. “Two are better than one, because they have a good return for their labor” (Eccl. 9:12). If two witches stand against one christian, then by God’s own spiritual laws, the witches will usually win (Jesus sent apostles out two by two for a reason). In Matt. 10:41-42, Jesus said that whoever receives a righteous or good person will receive blessings that are on the person’s life; in the same way, if you open your heart or home to an occultist (it doesn’t matter if you don’t know or are ignorant), then you have allowed or given permission to the curses following the occultist to harm you. It’s like the tales of Dracula and vampires having to ask permission to enter a person’s home and harm them. There is some truth to the vampire and werewolf fables. Again, at the top right of this page is this: “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge” (Hosea 4:6). Who else destroys but satan; and if satan can’t destroy christians, then how can God say that? Learn to recognize the schemes of the enemy and to know his MO and how he in fact works.

      • sarah hodgins says:

        Hi Snoopy, it’s interesting what you say about witchcraft etc. Also that article was interesting – I didn’t know this before, so I do have to agree with you that perhaps God is using Trump somehow for good…anyway I am afraid of Hillary for her ties to the illuminati so I would prefer him over her. Anyway…I originally found this Truthinreality website thru the author’s former website, when I was trying to get free of Tarot cards (I had been studying them and using them and began to experience satanic repercussions — I was agnostic or something at the time). I have read most of Staci’s books and learned a lot, though sometimes I think she goes a bit far with tossing things out. But as she mentioned on her Occult Items page, you can’t be too sure sometimes!

        However, I am unsure about this “legal” idea of Satan getting control over Christians. And the whole idea of exorcism ministries. Doesn’t the power of Christ easily trump Satan’s? Yes, I understand that there is “witchcraft” power, and that high level witches can kill birds etc. However I think we are giving too much “value” to witches and to Satan. I think it’s a bit crazy that in order to be able to cast out demons from someone (or from our ourselves) we must know the name of every single demon and their alternate names and symbols etc etc etc. This can get really confusing and time consuming until a person is more obsessed with demons than with God, and we should be obsessed with Jesus, don’t you think?

        And like what if you live in a home and someone owns a dreamcatcher (for example) and they refuse to throw it out?; Or like a friend of mine, who foolishly went to a “healer” when she visited the Philippines and got sick, and then purchased crystals to try to help with healing and now repents of all this new age garbage, but literally cannot find all the crystals in order all to dispose of them? Will God curse that person because she cannot find them all to dispose of them? I don’t know, this gets quite confusing and weird.

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        I have to answer in two parts, first about Trump.

        God is using Trump. Just like every tool (from a toolbox or gardening or whatever it is for) is limited by the way it is made, so every human being is limited by the gifts and talents God has given them, by the iniquities and demonic and wounds they have incurred (from past generations, etc.), and by other variables. God uses each tool as He can, not necessarily as He wants. Jesus told the 12 apostles several times to preach to the Gentiles, and Peter even preached this on Pentecost; yet, they were tools who didn’t have room for the Gentiles. They barely had room for Grecian/Hellenistic Jews (Acts 6:1-7), had even less room for Samaritans, and had the least room for Gentiles. Jesus APPREHENDED Paul (He didn’t just call him as He had the 12 apostles) and sent him to the Gentiles, because Paul was a tool (VESSEL) fit for that purpose.

        God is using Trump for good as far as Trump is able to do. He’s the only president God spoke to me about independently of what others were saying (I don’t trust or listen to anyone who loves to TALK (prophesy) but hates to DO the Word). He told me on two different occasions that He had chosen Trump to be president; this was several days or weeks before Trump won the election. But the blessings that come through Trump will only drive compromised christians farther from God. God knows; it happened with Israel too. Christianity won’t become Christianity in America until there is a massive shaking that shakes everything loose but Christ.

        A shaking of the strength that America’s churches need to return to God will require a leader who is wicked (that means Trump must leave office, be removed, or be suddenly overtaken by satan). The hardness of heart in America is unprecedented. I can confidently say that man’s heart has never been as hardened against God at any time in history as it is now. I can say this because Sodom and Gomorrah seemed to be the worst place on earth… then many years later (because sin gives birth to death (or gets worse) OVER TIME), Jesus said in Matthew 11:20-24 to Israelite cities of His day that if His miracles they rejected were done in Sodom and other wicked cities of the past, those cities would have repented. Sin has gotten worse over time; it always does. So, while Trump brings prosperity to America– which is god to most people, christian and non– it will require a wicked president.

        God’s ways are multi-faceted and it MAY be that one of the reasons He ‘elected’ Trump to the presidency is that a wicked president will soon arise (maybe not immediately after Trump); if a wicked president, like Hillary, came into office without a good president being in office first (‘good president’ as in ‘more trustworthy than the average christian’), then Americans would shrug– like we did when Obama was president– and say, “Meh. It’s only human.” But if a good president sits in office before an evil president takes office, then people are far more likely to realize that they are in bondage (and have been in bondage) and to look for a way out. Something like that. So, thank God for Trump. There are many signs that he is definitely is God’s man of the hour (though most of the christians who follow him follow him out of selfish motives, not godly motives), one of those signs being the witches who PUBLICLY networked to overthrow him– because there are also occultists working behind the scenes to overthrow him, but witches publicly networking and also against a public figure, basically openly preaching a coup, is just unprecedented. Something different has happened in the spirit realm that threatens satan’s agenda. That is the only time he ‘comes out of hiding and makes an appearance in person’. Now, speaking of witches…

      • sarah hodgins says:

        Hi Snoopy, I read (well, listened) to the OT and was confused by that story about that Moabite king who sacrificed his son on the wall in 2 Kings 3. I don’t understand why that would cause Israel to lose the war — wouldn’t God punish the Moabites more? How did the Moabite “gods” fought against Israel?
        Also, aren’t we in a different “world” now because of grace? Doesn’t God forgive all sins such as witchcraft now?

      • Pat Johnston says:

        How and what did I confirm for you? Also, besides being involved in witchcraft, what is Snoopy and your spiritual story and do either of you have any degrees?

      • Pat Johnston says:

        When a Trump supporter can’t debate, they bail. So, you would have stood with Nero, while he fed Christians to the lions and Hitler, when he murdered 6 million Jews. Many Christians did support these evil men and now share a burning hell with them. Your Trump rant at the end shows how completely brainwashed you are. You are lucky though there will be plenty of Trumps and supporters thrown…” into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth” forever and ever.

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Sarah, if satan had self-control and was not driven by the law of corruption (it’s what motivates wicked people like psychopaths and sociopaths and narcissists who can in no way restrain themselves from doing evil), Jesus would have died of old age. Jesus subjected Himself to the curse of the Fall of man which set death in motion. “It is appointed to all men to die.” Jesus’s body aged as a human being, therefore, it would have kept aging until death. Spirits don’t age, but Jesus came as a human being– as a baby who grew to childhood and then to teenhood and then to young adulthood and then to adulthood. He would grown to old age and would have died of old age eventually, just like all normal human beings. He left all His God power behind; He was subject to death by killing and therefore would have also been subject to death by old age.

        The more a person is under condemnation, the more the person does evil. satan is the best example of this. He’s facing a life sentence of a death that never ends. He has nothing to lose. But because he is condemned, in spite of the fact that he is BRILLIANT– “FULL of wisdom and perfect in beauty” as Ezekiel says– he is the primary vessel who will usher in Jesus’s return. It isn’t the Church, like the charismatic lunatics think. It is satan. It sounds like heresy but if you read ALL the prophecies in the OT and NT about the end of days, you will see that Jesus’s return and the end are predicated on the works of satan: kingdoms will rise and rule (not godly kingdoms); “nation will rise against nation”; there will be natural disasters; etc. There is no nation or people group in history that has ever been oppressed or enslaved with force (ie. the oppression was apparent and harsh) that has not broken free. satan knows that his harsh oppression will bring freedom to mankind; he doesn’t want that freedom; but he must be harsh and bring it about.

        satan is the one who is forwarding the Lord’s coming, not the Church. The Bible doesn’t blatantly say this, but it’s all through it. From the OT till now (especially then because they were not under Grace), God always judged or destroyed nations once the cup of wrath was filled (when their iniquities and wickedness reached the point that He had to do it). In Genesis 18, God came down to destroy the cities of the plain because their wickedness had ‘topped the cup’. But He told Abraham about it first, because Abraham was His friend (God won’t tell most people how He feels about things; judgment tends to come suddenly, not with forewarning). In Genesis 15, God again told Abraham, “Know certainly that your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and will serve them, and they will afflict them four hundred years… But in the fourth generation, they shall return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete.” Israel had to remain slaves in Egypt until the Amorites/Canaanites had ‘committed’ enough wickedness for God to legally destroy all of them.

        Because God works on this ‘iniquity/wickedness’ clause, satan often tries to force His judgment by causing individuals, families/generational lines, neighborhoods, towns, cities, regions, countries, and nations to sin enough to ‘fill the cup of wrath’ so that God then has to judge them. (However, God is not the One who judges most of the time; rather, the spiritual laws He set in motion act as judges; eg. He told Moses that the iniquity/guilt of parents pass on the coming generations, but this was a spiritual law, not a new law, because we saw that Abraham’s propensity to lie about his wife being his sister passed on to Isaac who then did the same thing.) satan, driven by his OCD to do evil, cannot help but be God’s slave to bring about Jesus’s return. He does this by fulfilling all the prophecies in the Bible. While at enmity with God and hating to obey God, satan is obeying God in fulfilling prophecy, because he is driven by his rebellion. The law of rebellion at work in satan is his master; satan himself is not the master that he seems to be.

        Solomon said about the wicked, “They do not sleep unless they have done evil; and their sleep is taken away unless they make someone fall” (Pro. 4:16). This doesn’t literally mean wicked people are obviously doing evil; it is talking about their NATURE. God is the only One who isn’t subject to any laws. Everyone else– angels and demons included– is governed by their nature (laws within them). That’s why the Bible says that the good should continue to do good and the wicked continue to do evil. It’s like saying, “Let a monkey remain a monkey and not turn into a human, and let a fish remain a fish and not turn into a bird” (contrary to evolution); it is approving each one’s nature, because before God, it is right that one should be motivated by his nature and not be in control over his nature. Only God is in control over His nature. No one else has control over their nature, because God DESIGNED everyone/everything in existence.

        Those who CHOOSE righteousness will be subject to (literally ‘at the mercy of’) laws of righteousness (even if they sin); and those who CHOOSE rebellion against God will be subject to laws of wickedness (even when they do good). This is where foreknowledge and predestination come in and why the Bible tells christians to examine and test themselves to see if they WILL be saved (it’s talking about future tense salvation, not past tense)– because without testing oneself, a christian cannot be sure whether they have really chosen salvation or damnation.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        You really like to hear yourself. Unfortunately, when people blather on with no real point, it is hard to read what they right. Be more specific and to the point to get whatever your message is about. So far, it appears, you Trump with unwavering, blind loyalty and so far have not shown why any Christian serves Jesus and America by doing so. If you don’t want to actually debate with me, block me. I like to debate, as it makes me work hard and seek the Word to disprove those lost Christians, as I try to bring an element of truth into their midst, as many false prophets try lie to you.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Trump is definitely the most vindictive and obsessively power hungry President ever.

  81. Snoopy It Is says:

    No idea why you can’t reply directly to comments on here but this is a continuation of my last comment to Sarah Hodgins,

    Regarding “this ‘legal’ idea of satan getting control over christians,’ I’ll say this first: God is both complex and simple, therefore, everything He created is also both complex and simple (eg. rocks, animals, wind, air, water, humans, plants, outer space, and all immaterial things including spirits, molecules, truths, and ideas). The topic of spiritual laws governing both God’s and satan’s sides is FAR too vast. It is easiest understood if the Holy Spirit reveals it to you, because you can’t read enough books. “Most communication is nonverbal.” Verbal communication is the complex side of communication; nonverbal communication is the simple side. That’s why while babies don’t understand verbal communication but understand nonverbal communication. Babies only understand SIMPLE things, not complex. Therefore, the Bible says about the revelation of the Holy Spirit, “The UNFOLDING (explanation, entrance, shining forth, exposure, exposition, teaching) of Your words gives light; it gives understanding to the SIMPLE” (Psalm 119:130). In Christ, you don’t have to be a scholar; you can be a child– as long as you can hear from the Holy Spirit, you can easily be wiser than all the theologians in your country. Literally. (Psalm 119:98-100, Luke 2:41-52.) I will share only two passages with a brief explanation and then I see this will be too long so will finish responding about witchcraft in my next comment.

    1.) In 2Cor. 2:3-11, Paul tells the Church to receive a brother who had been cast out for a season due to continual sin. Paul advised to receive him back into the fold “lest satan should get an advantage over us; for we are not ignorant of his devices.” You can only take advantage of a weakness in a person. Paul states here that satan can triumph over or defeat christians. He can do this any time that we are “ignorant of his devices”. In this instance, the man would have been isolated, and his brethren would have turned their backs on him. Each of those alone is sufficient for satan to enter and defeat christians. You better believe it. (That’s why in America, where unity is a cussword, there is no real victory among christians.)

    2) In Acts 9:31-43, there were two different groups of believers who were in need of God’s miraculous power. They didn’t know how to access it, therefore satan was able to defeat them. Then Peter came along and reversed the effects of the Fall which satan implemented against those believers: Aeneas was healed, and Tabitha was raised from the dead. Those believers thought that Peter was special and therfore was able to do what he did. But Peter wasn’t special; he’d said, “Aeneas, JESUS the Christ heals you (not me)” and had prayed for God’s will before raising Tabitha. It was God’s will for Aeneas to be healed and Tabitha to not even die far before Peter came along; so what were the believers around these two missing? That’s the question that we all should seek God for.

    God said His people are DEFEATED because they lack knowledge (that means satan defeats christians when they lack knowledge). It’s not enough or acceptable for christians to propose and ponder, to theologize and theoreticize, to speculate and spectate. We can’t keep saying, “Doesn’t the Blood of Jesus cover me from all harm?” or “Psalm 91 says I am totally protected” or “Jesus said He gave us power to trample on the enemy.” We have to learn what that all MEANS so we can actually learn to use the tools Jesus has given us ACCESS to rather than supposing that satan is afraid of us simply because Jesus has ‘the tools’ to defeat him. We aren’t Jesus, and Jesus isn’t us. satan is afraid of Jesus and then of believers who “know their God”; he is not afraid of christians and has no need to be.

    • sarah hodgins says:

      Very interesting and I agree that we need to learn to be or do whatever St Peter was being/doing….letting the Lord live in us

    • Pat Johnston says:

      Since you support the Devil Trump, Jesus has turned his back on you. You have no spiritual leg to stand on, when you align yourself with pure evil. No amount of “spiritual” babbling and lies will correct that, only Christ’s forgiveness will. When you helped put the Devil in the White House, you rejected Christ.. Jesus 2020!

  82. Snoopy It Is says:

    Third response to Sarah Hodgins. This one is about what witches can and can’t do as well as a practical look at ‘legal rights’ and how they work.

    Witches can kill people and do fairly regularly (by spiritual means, I mean; they kill many people physically through rituals every day), and they don’t have to be high-level to do it. People who aren’t witches can bring about another person’s death by the power of their soul (check out Watchman Nee’s ‘The Latent Power of the Soul’), and when you combine human free agency with satan’s will, you might be surprised what occultists have been doing and getting away with. Jesus’s power is greater than satan’s, but satan’s power is still great, especially when comparing it to humans. Witches are more in touch with satan’s power than christians are with Jesus’s power. This is, foundationally, because we all are naturally inclined to carnality and satan gives his power to the carnal (carnality being a natural thing that you don’t have to work for) while God gives His power to the holy (holiness being an unnatural thing that you have to work for). Katy Perry wanted to be the next Amy Grant in the contemporary christian music industry but didn’t make it. She, by her own admission, then sold her soul to satan in order to make it in the secular music industry instead. satan gives you power faster if you follow your carnal nature; God gives you power only as you submit to Him, and submitting to God and ‘dying to your carnal nature’ is difficult: “Therefore, submit to God; [then] resist the devil,” James said. This explains the massive power working among occultists and the little power working among christians.

    As for ‘legal rights’, I’ve written longer than I meant to and won’t go far into that. But I advise you, if you want to learn the facts not the fables we’ve been fed through decades, that you should google some of the things I’m about to mention. Occultists can ‘bind’ a person in the spirit, rendering the person unable to function in the physical. Every spiritual principle works on both the good and the bad side; this includes ‘binding and loosing’. Occultists can bind a person’s finances (in the spirit) and no matter how hard they try and how qualified they are, the person will never have enough money to live comfortably. One of their favorite methods is called ‘caging’ (link to an article at bottom) in which they put something in a container spiritually and it affects the person’s whole life naturally. Here are two true stories to consider:

    1.) There was once a very attractive woman who couldn’t get or keep a boyfriend longer than about two weeks or less. She was a christian and after college was in her thirties and was not married. She found a pastor who received a word of knowledge from God: the woman’s granddad had ‘bound’ her marriage when she was a baby. He did it with good intentions, but it was still satanic power. Her granddad saw her at birth and told her dad, “She’s going to be very pretty and the boys won’t leave her alone. Let’s ‘bind’ her marriage (really, her sexuality or visibility to men) otherwise she’ll be pregnant before she leaves middle school. Then we’ll ‘loose’ it after she gets out of college and she can freely marry whoever.” The woman and her pastor went to her granddad’s home where her dad now lived. She told him what God revealed; he told her it was true and that he and her granddad had forgotten to ‘loose’ her after college. Under her granddad’s old bed was the jar they used to imprison her marriage. When they destroyed it and prayed, the woman met a man within a week and I think was married within two months.

    2.) There was a man who was fairly rich. He found a woman who was in need and took her in. They began to date and married. This woman then met another man who may have been richer. She left her husband for the second man. Her husband was ticked off, basically. “I saw her in need and took her in. I provided so much for her, but she left me for this other man?” So he went to consult with an occultist. His ex-wife only found this out after trying to get pregnant with her new husband over and over and nothing ever worked. She happened to see a pastor who was open enough to God to receive a word of knowledge on why she couldn’t get pregnant. God showed the pastor that the husband she left had seen an occultist and by ‘a binding spell’, the occultist bound her ability to bear children. It went like this: the occultist brought a large cauldron and performed incantations and then buried the cauldron underneath a standing tree (to make it extremely unlikely that it would be dug up and therefore the curse disturbed). The occultist with the woman’s ex-husband determined that every time the woman and her new husband had sex and he ejaculated (this is a true story), that the spirit or life of the semen would be transferred not into the woman but into that cauldron. The oath was something like this: “Until the day that his semen fills this cauldron, his semen will never go into her. She will never get pregnant until there is no more room in this cauldron.” Long story short, God led them to the tree, they dug up the cauldron, etc.

    You asked about living with people who have ‘accursed objects’ and not being able to find things, etc. None of this is complicated. Some of it is complex but God always starts with the simple things, because no matter how much we accomplish or think we know, we are all babies and are all very simple. I’ve written a lot but that’s because it’s easier to write than to get to the point since the point is difficult for many to understand. And here is the point: ANY mystery or puzzle or quandary or whatever can be solved by simply doing this: ASK GOD. “If ANY man lacks wisdom, let him ask of God who gives to liberally to ALL without finding fault, and it will be given to him” (James 1:5). Virtually every single word in that verse is loaded with meaning. God knows we don’t know. We often think we know, but God knows. That’s why His invitation– to ask and receive– to those who don’t know (which is all of us) is so gracious. The simple aspect here is literally, “If you don’t know, ask God and He WILL tell you.” The complex aspect is that you might have to ask through fasting or praying in tongues or praying with one or more people; ie. there might be a specific strategy to even ask. But the good news is that if you ‘ask and keep asking’, everything will be revealed step by step. Spiritual safety is about an intimate or close relationship with God (Psalm 91); it’s not something one has automatically by being a christian. The closer you are to God, the more you can hear Him. Then if someone brings something into your home or gives you something or has something where you live that is ‘cursed’ and that the enemy can use to harm you, God will tell you about it, and you will hear Him. From then on, you will only need to know what to do about it, and believe me, answers and solutions and resolution belong to God. He can solve ANY problem. Goodnight.

    Article on Spiritual Cages (you don’t have to do the prayers): https://www.evangelistjoshua.com/deliverance-spiritual-cage/

    • sarah hodgins says:

      “Witches are more in touch with satan’s power than christians are with Jesus’s power.” Yes i have heard of children who did spells “for fun” and killed an entire family. Maybe from Staci’s book. Scary stuff. And shameful that Christians have so little of the Lord’s power!!!

    • sarah hodgins says:

      Thank you Snoopy! I did think of that idea too, this evening: “why not ask God for help with this?” (e.g. to find the missing crystals of my friend, so she can dispose of them). Duh! I am slow.

      What you have said is spot on with everything else I have ever read about occult stuff and witchcraft. I was kind of hoping it was not true though, because …it’s rather discouraging….

      Also I was involved somewhat in the occult years ago, although I stuck with “positive” stuff so I never heard of this “caging” thing. But yes, those other things are all familiar things and sounds legit. I have read almost every book by Staci Spielman and she has some crazy stuff in those books. Also, I recently found a website that mentions a person who did research into satanism in the North or South Carolina area and wow is it scary stuff. Really sick nasty stuff. I didn’t know it was so much in North America — I thought this stuff was more like in Mexico or Asia etc. It’s stuff I would rather not know, just like Illuminati stuff…but it is real, unfortunately. And our buddy Pat just confirmed it more to me 😦

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Hey, Sarah, I got several replies from you and mashed them together to respond (in two comments) to make it less confusing for me because this platform doesn’t allow replies to some comments.

        Peter was able to heal Aeneas and resurrect Tabitha because he had faith in God. Luke 9 shows that Jesus gave His apostles authority and power to cast out demons and that sometime after that the same apostles couldn’t deliver the epileptic. In the Matthew account (Matt. 17), when the apostles ask why they– having received authority to deliver– could not deliver the epileptic, Jesus told them that the type of bondage they were dealing with required faith in God. There are different types of faith. You can have faith in many things that come from God or that are aspects of God (His promises, His Word, His attributes, etc.); then you can have faith in God Himself.

        The apostles had faith in the authority Jesus gave them; they finally met an instance of bondage when that kind of faith wouldn’t work. Their authority was fine; their relationship to God wasn’t. They needed to have faith in God, not in their spiritual authority, when they encountered the epileptic. Peter was able to heal Aeneas and resurrect Tabitha when the other believers could not because Peter had learned to have faith in God Himself (which is different from having faith in God’s promises or gifts or power, etc.) whereas those believers had not. (Peter’s relationship with God was close/intimate enough that he knew what God’s will was even when others did not. You recall that Jesus was like that while on earth when you see Him minister to certain situations that others thought were hopeless: eg. Lazarus, the dead 12-year-old girl, etc. Peter had become more like his Lord.)

        You have to ask God to give you insight into what happened in 2Kings 3. It’s a puzzle on the surface, but everything in the Bible has integrity and is true. In 2Samuel 24, we are told, “The anger of the Lord burned against Israel. He moved David against them, saying. ‘Go, number Israel and Judah.’” But in 1Chronicles 21, we are told, “satan stood up against Israel and moved David to number Israel.” If you read both passages, you see that they both record the exact same incident: David sinned in taking a census of Israel (although taking a census in itself is not a sin and is almost always a good thing), and God required judgment for it, asking David to choose from three different types of judgment. However, during the judgment, God stopped it before it was to end.

        Both 2Sam. 24 and 1Chron. 21 record the same incident but contradict each other. But God can’t contradict Himself. When you come across this kind of thing, your place is to ask God what is happening. On the surface, if one was to be brutally honest, the Bible is full of contradictions (eg. the different reports of Jesus’s resurrection and the different reports of the demonized Gadarene). But God WROTE the Bible that way on purpose a.) in order to hide His mysteries from the wicked and b.) in order to motivate the truly righteous to ‘search out’ His mysteries (because it brings one closer to God). That’s why christians who argue with atheists are in error. Atheists are right to attack the contradictions in the Bible; but they are wrong to say that God doesn’t have integrity. If christians don’t know how to defend the Bible, they should say only what they know and let God convict their hearers if He will. Only the Holy Spirit can line up everything in the Bible to have integrity. Without Him, there will always be contradictions and puzzles. What makes 2Kin. 3 more puzzling is the fact that God through Elisha– a faithful man whose words never fell to the ground– promised that Israel would win the battle against Moab and even provided a clear sign that they would… yet they didn’t win. This is where you are to ‘search it out’.

        There are different ‘levels’ of christians. People absent-mindedly say, “You are as close to God as you want to be.” Much of that is true. God hides many things and reveals them only to those who pursue ‘the knowledge of God’(ie. those who pursue God Himself): “It is the glory of God to conceal a matter and the glory of KINGS to search it out” (Proverbs 25:2); “The secret of the Lord is with THOSE WHO FEAR HIM, and to THEM He will reveal His covenant (secrets)” (Psalm 25:14); and Jesus said to God, “I thank You, Father, Lord of Heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things (intimate relationship with God) from the wise and the prudent and have revealed them to babes. Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight” (Matthew 11:25-26).

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Sarah, these replies look like they will be jumbled up but I hope you can make sense of them.

        As for children doing spells for fun and killing an entire family, witchcraft (a term I’ll use to cover all ‘satanic power’) will ‘enter’ or ‘land’ whenever it has an entrance (to enter) or legal ground (to land on). Proverbs 26:2 says, “Like a fluttering sparrow or a darting swallow, an undeserved curse does not come to rest.” Many christians think this means that christians can’t be cursed (ie. be subject to curses), but one of the puzzling things about the Bible is that many times it literally just repeats what everyone already knows. Why? Because it is true. The Bible majors on truth, not only on God’s direct or personal words (Ecclesiastes especially but also Job and Psalms are great examples of this): a bird can’t land if it has nothing to land on; we all know this. That is what Solomon is saying about a curse. It’s better to understand if it’s said (in paraphrase) ‘backwards’: “When there is nowhere to land, a bird (or curse) cannot land.” This says nothing at all about where a curse can or can’t land but simply that wherever a curse finds room, it will land. Without ongoing sanctification, both christian and non will have plenty of ground for the enemy to land on. However, God won’t let him land all the time even if there’s legal ground (otherwise, most of us would be dead), but that’s another subject.

        There are many prideful atheistic and agnostic people out there who brag about their disbelief in the demonic and the spirit realm. Pro. 26:3 says, “A whip for the horse, a bridle for the donkey, and a rod for the backs of fools.” In other words, relate to people and things where they are; fools don’t learn unless they are beaten (ie. HARMED), therefore, beat them. So what do I tell these prideful people who think their reality (really, their preference and hope) can trump the facts regarding the demonic? I tell them that since they are so sure that the demonic realm is all Hollywood and fake, they should save up a little money and invest in a Ouija board. (You don’t even need to get an actual one; you can draw it out yourself and it will still ‘work’.) I tell them to proceed to bring along one or more other ‘unbelieving friends’ and to play on their Ouija board.

        Why advise anyone to consult the Ouija? Because a.) they arrogantly disbelieve facts because they think they can hide from them, and b.) the Ouija board is the one instrument that everyone has access to that most quickly invites the presence of the demonic… and when the demonic comes through a Ouija board, it doesn’t do a whole lot of hiding. Atheists and agnostics would come in contact with the demonic they disbelieve in faster than they could say, “This isn’t gonna work.” So why advise someone to make contact with the occult when the Bible warns against it? Because fools only learn through personal or direct harm (they have to suffer before they give up their pride), and it’s better they suffer some pitchfork pokes right now and re-think their ignorance than that they die in ignorance and rebellion and suffer through a pitchfork party that never ends. So yes, tiny kids can send curses and if the curses have places to land, then they will land. So for those who deride the reality of the demonic and who ignore God, making contact with the demonic is far easier than making contact with God “though He is not far from each one of us, for in Him we live and move and have our being” (Acts 17:27-28). Amen.

        As for satanism in NC and SC, I was in Asheville, NC in the summer of 2018 and met two different people who told me that that city is the most satanic city in the U.S. (It isn’t. It’s the most satanic in maybe one aspect. Another city is most satanic in another aspect. Etc. Bellingham, WA is one of the U.S. towns that is owned by satanists, and satan likes that place a great deal.) One of the people in Asheville told me how FIFTEEN different christian churches attempted to take on the occultists in that area (Asheville, Black Mountain, etc.) and all fifteen churches were destroyed and marriages fell apart within them as well because the occultists COUNTERATTACKED. How is this possible? John Paul Jackson wrote a book called ‘Needless Casualties of War’. Jackson had a lot of errant teachings/beliefs, but you have to give credit where credit is due and he nailed it in this book, expounding on the way christians can and do suffer needlessly (usually not even aware when this happens) when they take on the enemy presumptuously rather than with God’s leading. I’d recommend the book to anyone who needs a foundational understanding of the ‘rules of engagement’ regarding spiritual warfare, especially when it has to do with the princes, rulers, and territorial spirits in the heavenly places. You can read several pages free here: https://www.amazon.com/Needless-Casualties-John-Paul-Jackson-ebook/dp/B008WVIKFQ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=needless+casualties+of+war&qid=1582085867&sr=8-1

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        I forgot to add this video that I saw some time ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x3dZYuFopY

        One of the clips toward the end (when the guy goes in the bathroom then screams) may have been faked, but the rest of the clips are real. Major warning if you’re going to watch this.

        A close friend of mine drew a Ouija board with some of her friends in middle school. The first time they played on it, the paranomal activity began immediately; it always does but isn’t always visible. For her and her friends, it was visible. One of the things that happened was that blood began to run down the clock on the wall. (Since that time, she has had clock and watch problems, electrical and otherwise.) Other kids saw it and many kids who had to go to that classroom (because of the changing of periods/classes) began to have demonic visitations. It got bad enough for my friend to go to the school counselor and admit she was one of the people who started it.

        The Ouija board is the immediate cure for Western skepticism about the demonic and the paranormal. Whoever invented it must have received clear directions from the demonic realm. It’s an immediate open door for the demonic and is so effective that one doesn’t even have to get a factory-made Ouija board but can draw or make one themselves or even use a Ouija board app. All the enemy needs is an open door and the Ouija opens doors immediately.

        That all said, some christians are overly-focused on the demonic while others exaggerate that we are to “focus only on Christ”. The Bible, on the other hand, says that we are to FOCUS on Christ (firstly) but yet be AWARE of the enemy’s devices and modus operandi (secondly). When you drive from place to place, you only focus on where you’re going or your destination, but you also remain aware of everything else around you for the purpose of your safety. Jesus is the focus and destination, and satan is those things around you that you remain aware of. Just like our natural eyes have panoramic vision, rather than tunnel vision, we are to spiritually have panoramic awareness as well. Goodnight.

      • Sarah says:

        Hi Snoopy, I was without a proper computer for a couple of days so I couldn’t read and respond very well. Yes I avoid ouija boards — they are extremely evil and dangerous and I won’t even watch the videos because it will likely cause me nightmares. The reason Staci got in trouble was because she played with one of those when she was a child. Many decades of horrific demon harrassment followed.

        I will read and respond more soon.

    • Pat Johnston says:

      Interesting, you are so worried about witches, when there is a Devil in the White House, which you apparently support. I have a few questions for both of you. Are you saved? Do you support Trump and why? Do you believe in the rapture? Who do you think is left behind, in the parables, if not part of the church? What part of the church represents the great falling away and why?

      • Jenny Foster says:

        There are devils everywhere but as you have an obsession with Donald Trump, you are not interested in them. The devil it seems has your undivided attention so there is no room for God or for Jesus.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Your right with the election of Trump, demonic spirits are everywhere, especially in those who support him and help carry out his demonic plans by their undying support of the man of lawlessness. The last part of your statement is ridiculous ,as I have lifted Jesus and scripture up throughout our conversation to support the teaching of Trump being the man of lawlessness and the church that supports him is the fallen church, who Christ will reject, if they don’t reject Trump. Right no, God is trying to break through to His deceived church, as I do out of love for them. If I didn’t care about the demise of the church and Jesus under Trump, I wouldn’t be talking to any of you, but God gave me an opening and I’m here to minister truth and life, not darkness and ignorance.

  83. Pat Johnston says:

    Jennifer, exactly how am I being disobedient to God?

  84. Snoopy It Is says:

    People from all sides are uniting to Trump. I think we can be so used to seeing corruption flourish that we can forget that many average people would choose good if they actually had a real opportunity.

    When I was in Grand Rapids, MI for a while in 2013, I learned about the wealthy Grand Rapids families: Van Andels, Devosses, Fords (motor company), Meijers (grocery stores). I learned that there are many wealthy people who would give to God’s work if they found a work or ministry they could really trust– ie. if God moved them to give. (When people are doing God’s work God’s way, He moves others to give to it.) And this is mostly non-christians. You see this principle in Acts when non-christians joined in giving to the early Church because the early Church was full of God’s Grace and favor as they were doing what God wanted them to do. So, sometimes people won’t do what is good because there isn’t any real opportunity to do so. I believe that there are many people consciously and unconsciously looking for something real, good, and true to give to or join and that as of yet, they haven’t found it. I also believe that Trump’s presense in office is giving many people an opportunity to do good. I believe their favorable disposition toward Trump is because they respect his integrity as a person, not because they have been deceived by a charming personality.

    • Pat Johnston says:

      I live in California. Most of the State hates Trump and sees him as the illegitimate and corrupt leader of our country. He has done nothing to help us and a lot to try to destroy us. There may be some rich Republicans in the South and some ignorant booger eaters in the North that support him. He has done nothing, but ruin farming, spit on our fires, destroy our forests, oceans and pollute our air. He disregards our State rules, goals and legislature. Betsy Devos! A Christian! You mean an unqualified woman, who bought her job with her millions. She, who undermines our public school system and cares nothing for poor kids. Trump and Devos is your idea of integrity and doing good. There is NO integrity or goodness in either of them and this is where Trump has deceived you and half the country mentally. It is so astonishing people can be so gullible, even when it hurts them and their country in the long run. WOW! Unbelievable people really believe this in spite of the cruelty and disgusting human misbehavior he shows every day. Would you like it if your children behaved like Trump? Grabbing women’s pussies, having an affair with a huge breasted pron star, while having an affair with a Playboy Bunny, while Melania was pregnant. Then, paid both woman off to silence them. Your idea of integrity and goodness is sick and twisted.

      • Jenny Foster says:

        You really do have a war going on in your own head. No one on this thread has said that Trump is a model for integrity or anything of the sort. At least he is not an out and out satanist like the people you so admire, the Clintons and Obamas. Why do you think he said he was going to clean up the White House? That is why the witches are working against him and you need to ask yourself how it happened that you found yourself working against the same person they are working against. Common sense would tell you that you have made a mistake, but sadly due to your blindness you won’t be able to see that. At least you should stop attempting to lead others into the ditch with you.

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Pat Johnson, why don’t we talk about the Jezebel spirit that the article on this page is talking about? I’d like to talk about the Jezebel spirit as it functions among christians rather than changing the focus of the purpose of this conversation. Let’s do that. Your heart is so vicious that you think you harm decent people by slandering Trump. All narcissists and Jezebels love to slander, malign, and accuse and think they win by hating. Let’s talk about the Jezebel spirit as a worldwide and churchwide issue. Let’s talk about issues that glorify God– “whatsoeve things are of good report” as Paul says. Normal people don’t brag about hating and don’t care to hate. Hatred truly is a sign of weakness (of a person who is miserable and unable to be happy or content); hatred is not a sign of strength.

  85. Pat Johnston says:

    Jennifer, Unlike you, I worship Jesus, not Trump. My husband and I pray for Trump and his destructive and corrupt spirit every morning. Unlike you, we pray for those mislead by the Devil and ask God to redeem our country from the cancer of Trump. God does give us the leaders we deserve and half of America deserved and wanted Trump, no matter how immoral and corrupt he is. Did the Christians support Nero or did decent Christians support Hitler? The fake ones did. Just like Trump, fake Christians, who are really bigots in disguise loved it when a white supremacists Nazi loving Trump took office. Is that God’s will or has he allowed Satan to test the church. The Bible is clear. I am proud of who I am and what I know. Proud about my life long accomplishments, I couldn’t have a achieved without Jesus. I am proud of following the Bible and not man. In a day, when everyone is under pressure to fit in or be rebuked, I am proud to stand strong against peer pressure and fitting in. There is nothing wrong of being proud of who you are. Being proud of your power and abusing it because you are so prideful is definitely a sin that Trump commits everyday. Especially when he destroys our United States, great public servants that tell the truth, while pardoning 11 of his corrupt criminal buddies. If being proud is so bad, why do you support the most prideful person on the earth? Once again, you have NO moral standing, as long as you stand with Trump.

    • Jenny Foster says:

      Pride is an abomination to God. You are so out of line with the Bible and with Christianity and so hardheaded about it, there is no point in talking to you, it’s just like feeding trolls, a waste of time. Devils have the power to blind people before they lead them down the wrong road, and that is what has happened to you. You certainly should not be trying to rope people in to walk along that road with you. You need to repent of your rebellion to God and if you can’t see it, then you can only pray to ask God to show you where you have gone wrong. Then again that requires humility which you seem to be sorely lacking.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Are you proud to be American? Are you proud to know your Savior? Are you proud of you and your children’s accomplishments. Pride, like many things in life is a two-edged sword. You can be good proud, like you are of your children or bad proud, like what Trump demonstrates hour to hour. Name calling is another way to be bad proud. You think you are a better person than me, because you support Trump. Like Trump and most insecure people with no real facts to back them up, they call people names for lack of a substantive answer or when faced with the truth. Trying to bully people obviously works on some weak, cowardly Republicans in Congress, but not on me.. Name calling tells more about you, than me.

      • Sarah says:

        Well said.

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        I’m trying to respond to Jenny Foster and it’s only giving me an option of responding to Sarah. Anyway, this response is for Jenny Foster.

        Jenny, you wrote in response to Pat: “Why do you think he said he was going to clean up the White House? That is why the witches are working against him and you need to ask yourself how it happened that you found yourself working against the same person they are working against.”

        It’s interesting that birds of a feather flock together. Trump wouldn’t be interested in cleaning out corruption if he was corrupt himself. satan doesn’t oppose satan. At this point, Pat is basically channeling evil spirits. To be honest, not nice. Niceness isn’t one of the fruits of the Spirit. It isn’t possible for a human being by himself (in his own carnal nature) to hate someone he doesn’t know with hostility and conviction. That requires the intervention of dark forces.

        When I was in Bellingham, WA, I met a christian who had many problems. He was suffering but didn’t seem to want to repent and turn away from the demons who were tormenting him. When I asked God why he as a christian was so tormented and why the enemy seemed to be able to whip him around at will (I should have known the answer as this enemy requires the cooperation of one’s free will to have a lot of control over them). God showed me that the christian’s heart wasn’t right and that he had rejected God and embraced certain works of the enemy that bolstered his self-esteem.

        Since this christian had rejected God in his heart, his demonic torment was greater than that of a christian who hasn’t rejected God. Moreover, the enemy controlled him almost at will because he was in agreement with the enemy. Pat, being in agreement with the enemy, is starting to say more and more things that sound like demons speaking through her (ie. ‘moving’ her to speak). Or maybe it’s always been that way and I’m only now starting to pick it up as was my experience with the christian in Bellingham who, on first meeting I saw him crawling with ‘New Age spirits’ (ie. the spirits posing as Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit in many charismatic circles), then AS WE TALKED about the Bible in particular, Witchcraft was forced to surface, and as we talked further (the guy protested that we stop talking about the Bible), then Jezebel was forced to surface as head of the bunch. Maybe you’re wasting your time trying to reason with Pat as I did trying to reason with that christian in Bellingham.

  86. Pat Johnston says:

    Snoopy: Trump’s heart is “so vicious that he harms decent people by slandering any that stand in their way. All narcissists and Jezebels love to slander, malign, and accuse and think they win by hating.” Trump and his cult of Jezebels are winning. Daily, Trump destroys America, Christianity and the world. You are saying I am like Trump, but Trump and his cult can do these things and I can not defend the Word and what Christ has said about the fallen church without being maligned fro acting, like the person you worship. Makes no sense. Tell me please ho Trump or you supporting President pervert is in “good report”. Rev. 2: 20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21 ‘I gave her time to repent, and she does not want to repent of her immorality. Just because Jezebel was a woman doesn’t mean she has a gender as a demon. We have see her at work in the church rising her ugly head with adulterous pastors, pedophile priests and supporting a pervert President. She has destroyed our modern day prophets, when she convinced our Godly men to sell their soul and those that follow them to the biggest Jezebel the Devil Trump, who encompasses all evil. At the end God gives those possessed of the spirit time to repent from her immorality. The church needs to repent and reject Trump to be saved again. Since witches are known for, like Roger Stone, as dirty tricksters, wouldn’t it make sense that they would lie and deceive Christians by pretending to hate Trump. My rhetoric is no more hateful than anyone on this page. Obviously, we all feel strongly about our positions, but none of us had been hateful. Attacking each other personally, takes away from the biggest problem…the church supporting the man of lawlessness. I never made the connection between Trump and Jezebel, until you brought it up. Thanks!

  87. Pat Johnston says:

    Snoopy! Do you not watch the news at all. Trump is not cleaning up corruption, he’s dumping crap in his swamp and unqualified, corrupt crocodiles in chewing up our Constitution and Democracy in one big gulp. Did you watch any of the impeachment, hearings on Russia? Did you know that this week he fired the NSI director for doing his job and telling Congress our enemy Russia and Trump’s best bud is interfering in our elections again! Everyday, he violates his oath several times a day, along with telling over 16,000 lies in 3 years. I don’t support the Devil Trump, so my soul is just fine. You and those that blindly follow the Devil Trump are the ones that has allowed his demonic spirits into their souls, replacing their love of God, with their worship of Trump, as shown in your insane crazy hashtags of Trump’s forever. If you and the church don’t repent, you will spend eternity with the Trump, where their will be weeping and gnashing of teeth forever and those that chose Jesus will be with him in the air.

    • Snoopy It Is says:

      Pat, I grew up with a Jezebel who unwittingly taught me how to recognize evil, manipulation, control, and other such negative character qualities when I see them. You will never learn and truly are wasting your time, and this will be the last time I read or respond to your comments. Goodbye.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        When a Trump cultist can’t argue with facts, they run and hide. Good talking to you. Good bye.

  88. Jenny Foster says:

    Clearly Pat Johnston you are completely obsessed and one might as well go bang one’s head against a brick wall as try to get through to you that you have lost your way.

    • Pat Johnston says:

      I am not the one blindly following the man of lawlessness and 100% comfortable with what the Lord has showed me in his word. I follow Jesus, not Trump. I am on the narrow hard path, not the wide easy path. You will get a chance to redeem yourself by rejecting the Devil Trump and turning to Jesus. Revelation 12:17 (“And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ”). Trump’s worshipers are part of the fallen church. 2 Thessolonians 2:1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of [a]Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of [b]sin is revealed, the son of perdition. Obviously, Trump is the son of perdition and the man of lawlessness. The 80% of Christians that marked their ballot for him is the fallen church. My mind is not shaken, nor my faith. I stand on the Word of God. Can you do the same and support Trump through God’s Word.

      • Sarah says:

        Your opinion and beliefs are very clear. Please, please stop arguing about politics, everyone. Please.

      • The suggestion that Donald Trump is the antichrist is ludicrous. That shows a grievous lack of understanding of what the Bible says.

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