30 Traits of the Jezebel Spirit

The Jezebel spirit is described in the Bible in a story about a woman, Queen Jezebel, a daughter of a pagan king who married a king of Israel, King Ahab. Jezebel is mentioned again by name as a spirit in the New Testament.

Women who are unfaithful, uncaring or rebellious wives, are often called Jezebels but that was not the character of Queen Jezebel, who was a faithful wife but very evil in other ways. In the Bible story, Jezebel wrote letters falsely accusing the owner of vineyard, arranging for him to be killed so her husband could have his vineyard which he coveted.

The Bible paints a very graphic and concise portrait of this spirit, although the name of Jezebel is not always mentioned, such as in Proverbs 5 and 7. Also Isaiah 47:7-9:

“And thou saidst, I shall be a lady for ever: so that thou didst not lay these things to thy heart, neither didst remember the latter end of it. Therefore hear now this, thou that art given to pleasures, that dwellest carelessly, that sayest in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me; I shall not sit as a widow, neither shall I know the loss of children: But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood: they shall come upon thee in their perfection for the multitude of thy sorceries, and for the great abundance of thine enchantments.”

Numerous articles, books and videos etc. have been published about the Jezebel spirit. A considerable amount of the information given is misleading as to the true identity of the Jezebel spirit and the means by which it works.

The Jezebel spirit is not a demon but a principality which particularly targets people of God. That is both directly in themselves, and indirectly through others. It can get in through uncrucified flesh and fear. Highly intelligent and devious, this seducing spirit is adept at using all sorts of manipulative tactics, especially flattery.

The Jezebel spirit has the means to work against and through highly intelligent and spiritually knowledgeable people and is easily capable of carrying out complex long term strategies. It also has the ability to masquerade as and provide a convincing counterfeit to the Holy Spirit.

The Jezebel spirit is very evil and has been said to be like “the bride of Satan”. It will often work closely with a demonic network in order to conceal its presence and activities, so it can be difficult to identify and break free of.

Mistress – or master – of cunning and disguises, the Jezebel spirit would want everyone to believe it only manifests as a tarty and/or manipulative woman but that is far from the case. Contrary to what many believe, the Jezebel spirit does not work only or mainly through seductive women, or even controlling and manipulative men, but also by more subtle, covert and devious means.

As a spirit is genderless so Jezebel can and does easily take on either male, female, or any of the various forms of transgender identity including homosexual. The Jezebel spirit functions just as proficiently through men as through women and this is reflected in scripture which tells us that Jezebel had 850 male followers who did her bidding. It is Jezebel – spirits of witchcraft, and religious spirits, false prophecy and false doctrine – behind the idolatry of false doctrine and cults.

Just like the Bible story which tells us that Jezebel had 850 men, eunuchs who who “ate at her table” meaning that they were fed by her spiritually with the food of the devil, representing false doctrine, not the food of the true word of God. “Now therefore send, and gather to me all Israel unto mount Carmel, and the prophets of Baal four hundred and fifty, and the prophets of the groves four hundred, [men] which eat at Jezebel’s table.” (1 Kings 18:19)

Some characteristics of the Jezebel spirit in its outward appearance have been likened to narcissism (or narcissistic personality disorder).

Characteristics of the Jezebel Spirit

1. Refuses to admit guilt or wrong

A Jezebel spirit is never wrong, unless it is a temporary admittance of guilt to gain “favor” with someone. To accept responsibility would violate the core of insecurity and pride from which it operates. When a Jezebel apologizes it is never in true repentance or acknowledgment of wrongdoing but rather “I’m sorry your feelings were hurt.”

2. Takes credit for everything

While a strong trait of Jezebel is to never take responsibility for his/her wrong actions or behavior, he or she also is quick to take credit for benefits for which he/she contributed no effort.

3. Uses people to accomplish its agenda

The Jezebel spirit lets others do its dirty work. The Jezebel gets another person’s emotions stirred up, then lets that person go into a rage. The Jezebel sits back looking innocent, saying “Who me? What did I do?” This behavior makes it difficult for even the most ardent truth seekers to pin one down. The Jezebel spirit is clever in its agenda.

4. Withholds information

This is a form of control. A Jezebel wields power over you by knowing something you don’t know in a situation. In the eyes of a Jezebel, having information you don’t have is a powerful weapon of control.

5. Talks in confusion

It is impossible to converse with a Jezebel in logic. One pastor wrote a six-page letter to his elders about a situation in the church. The context was so vague that no one was without confusion. This is a way to maintain control and domination. When confronting a Jezebel, the subject may be changed five times in one minute. Confusion keeps them ‘undiscovered’ and unexposed.

6. Volunteers for anything

A Jezebel volunteers in order to establish control. He or she seemingly has endless (nervous) energy and eagerly looks for opportunities to be in charge of projects. Although he or she will work hard, His/her motive is never pure, and eventually his/her  secret agenda cannot be hidden.

7. Lies

A Jezebel lies convincingly. No one can lie better than he/she can. He or she can turn on the charm and make you believe blue is red. He or she always fools those whom he’s just met while those who have been victimized by his/her tactics stand by helplessly. The fact that Jezebel can look you in the eye and lie just shows how strong and adamant this rebellious and recalcitrant spirit is.

8. Ignores people

A classic ploy of a controller is to ignore you when you disagree with him/her. This tactic is frequently used by leaders when someone doesn’t agree with their plans, and they isolate the person by ignoring him/her. Some in these situations have been ignored for months, just because they chose not to be a puppet and say to every idea or whim. This puts the person out of the leader’s grace and forces him/her to either “come around” to the leader’s way of thinking or be indefinitely ignored. One is not free to disagree with a controller.

9. Never gives credit or shows gratitude

A Jezebel will rarely acknowledge another person’s actions, not even for something that turned out to greatly benefit the Jezebel. He or she just cannot bring himself/herself to say thank you or to acknowledge that someone else did something right. There are those who have gone out of their way to bless a Jezebel by being the catalyst of sending him/her on a trip or giving a gift. Yet never will there be a thank you. This again puts the controller in a position of power.

10. Criticizes everyone

This is a characteristic of a controller. He or she has to be the one who looks good, so he/she will quickly sharply criticize anyone who makes a suggestion or plan. Even though he/she likes the plan, he/she can only criticize it because the idea did not originate from him/her. Criticizing others elevates the controller in his/her own mind.

11. Oneupmanship

A person with a Jezebel spirit will always upstage another person. He or she feels threatened by anyone who dares to steal the limelight or anyone who is a threat to his/her power and control. If you are with such a person and tell of your accomplishment or victory, you can be assured he or she will quickly tell of something he/she has accomplished.

12. Sequesters information

A Jezebel loves to be in control of information. If there is ever a situation where information is important, he/she will push to be the “first” to know it. He or she seems to know everything about everyone. Where he/she gets all his/her information is beyond comprehension, but he/she can dictate to you data and details about people’s lives and actions in mass quantities.

13. Uses information

A Jezebel uses information as a leverage for power and then shares tidbits with you, often things told him/her in confidence. This gives him/her a sense of power, even to the point of trying to impress people by “knowing things” that others do not.

14. Talks incessantly

Many people talk habitually, but a Jezebel uses talking as a form of control. In a typical conversation, he/she does all the talking, whether it is about sports, the weather or the Kingdom of God. Because of this form of control, he/she is unable to receive input from anyone in his/her life. All conversation with him/her is one-sided. You are doing the listening.

15. Spiritualizes everything

When a controller is confronted, he or she commonly spiritualizes the situation, explaining it off on God. This prevents him/her from owning up to responsibility required of him/her. The implication is always, “You’ve got a problem; I don’t.”

16. Is insubordinate

A Jezebel never takes the side of the employer or a person in authority, unless it is a temporary action to make him/her look good. He or she often will take credit for someone else’s idea. His/her main desire is for power and control. There is no conscience when an opportunity for recognition presents itself.

17. Is pushy and domineering

A person with a Jezebel spirit pressures you to do things, seemingly ripping from you your right to choose or make a decision for yourself. He or she makes others feel as though they don’t have enough sense to think for themselves.

18. Is clairvoyant

Many who operate with a spirit of control also have a clairvoyant spirit. A Jezebel has supernatural help in knowing and sensing information. If he or shee uses this against you, he/she may say “I can’t tell you how I know this. I just know it.” This is not the Holy Spirit, but the help of a clairvoyant or familiar spirit. Clairvoyance may be defined as the power to perceive things that are out of the range of human senses.

19. Uses the element of surprise

A Jezebel’s main thrust is to be in control, and a large part of control is catching you off guard. Therefore, the element of surprise works well when he/she shows up a day early for a meeting, etc.

20. Sows seeds of discord

A Jezebel will continually belittle another person in the most subtle way. The strategy is to “gain” control by minimizing the value of another person. It is common for him/her to tell half-truths to implicate another person in your eyes. By sowing these seeds, he/she hopes (perhaps subconsciously) to eventually reap a harvest of destruction, improving his/her position of power.

21. Commands attention

A Jezebel likes to be the center of attention and doesn’t like to see others recognized and lauded. When someone else is recognized, he or she will quickly undermine the person’s accomplishments verbally.

22. Is vengeful

Since a Jezebel is never wrong, if you contradict or confront one, get ready to become his/her worst enemy. As long as you are in agreement with him/her, all is fine. But if you confront or challenge him/her, then look out. You are the target of his/her fiercest venom. A Jezebel will stop at nothing to destroy your reputation.

23. Attempts to make you look like you’re the Jezebel

A Jezebel spirit is difficult to pin down. If the person is near to being confronted, he or she will skillfully twist the entire situation, trying to make the innocent person look like the one who is attempting to control. As always, the Jezebel will do anything to look like the one who is right.

24. Insinuates disapproval

A Jezebel will often imply disapproval to those under his/her control. The controlled person feels no freedom to express an opinion, for fear of disapproval. This often manifests in a marriage or in a working environment.

25. Knows it all

A Jezebel is usually blatant regarding his/her knowledge of everything. Quick to express his/her opinion in any area, he or she leaves little room for anyone to point out the other side of an issue. He or she has made idols of his/her opinions.

26. Is ambitious

The Jezebel has strong desire, but all for self. “I want what I want when I want it,” describes his/her worship of self-will. A Jezebel leader will never use the words, “We have a vision,” but rather, “My vision is thus and so.”

27. Gift giving

Gift giving is a form of manipulation a Jezebel uses that always makes you feel obligated to him/her. It also compromises the victim in speaking direct and confrontive truth. Naturally, not everyone who gives gifts is guilty of control, but gift giving is a tactic used by those who have a need to control.

28. Is independent

No one has input in a Jezebel’s life. He or she fraternizes with no one unless it is to get you to “cooperate” with his/her agenda.

29. Is religious

A Jezebel dwells in the local church but doesn’t like authority unless he/she is in the position of authority.

30. Hides

We all want to believe that the person with a Jezebel spirit is delivered. The person may seem “normal” for a period, exhibiting none of the classic traits. Then suddenly without warning a situation will arise, once again with the spirit taking control and wreaking havoc over lives. Hopefully, true repentance will come. Only then will the person be delivered.

The good news is that God gives each individual person the freedom of choice. Everyone has the freedom to make decisions, to make mistakes, to think for himself/herself, to communicate, to like or dislike and to express his/her taste and creativity.

Those who control are in worship of their own wills and their own ways. Thank God for freedom.

If you recognize any of these traits in your own life, begin by praying this prayer:

I renounce and bind this demon of Jezebel, and I pull down this stronghold in my life.

Through the Holy Spirit I will live by your standard of righteousness, holiness and conduct. Open my eyes and cause Your light to expose any darkness, and help me to walk in humility and truth.

In Jesus Name,

Amen!

The above “30 Traits of the Jezebel Spirit” is an excerpt from “Confronting Jezebel: Discerning and Defeating the Spirit of Control” by Steve Sampson (pages 62-68)

Please note: If you have been the victim of one or more narcissists, be careful to make sure that whoever you seek counsel from understands narcissism correctly and gives the right advice that does not make the situation worse. Scripture tells us trusting in man is a snare. There is no one better to turn to than God Himself, who understands absolutely everything about everyone and everything that happened. We can ask God in the name of Jesus for his Holy Spirit to teach us and to guide us.

We need information though, and thankfully there is a plethora of helpful information available today for free on the internet. There are also many books and articles videos available about narcissism and many posts about narcissism on sites like Quora.com. As with Christianity itself though, there is a massive amount of disinformation out there and some of the information may be very inaccurate and/or misleading.

This situation like any and every other can be used by the enemy to turn to his benefit and our detriment. For sure, it can be very dangerous and destructive spiritually to listen to the wrong information, adding salt to our wounds and can easily open demonic doorways – something we definitely would do not want to do.

We should use the utmost care to discern who and what we listen to. and consider carefully whether what we are hearing fits with what we know the Bible says and our experiences. Any such information found can be used as a guide to apply as an aid to understanding what has happened or is happening now or what may happen, while not deviating from Bible principles.

We live in a sick world, and finding out about things like the common practice of ‘victim shaming’ can be extremely helpful to those already suffering from the effects of abuse.

Important info: A letter to every victim seeking help from therapists or groups

See also:

Recovery and Freedom from Jezebel Abuse – Jesus Our Only Mediator

Prayer of Renunciation Against Jezebel and Ahab Spirits

The Jezebel Spirit and How It Operates

Twenty-one Jezebelic Footprints

The Conflict Oriented Male Jezebel Spirit

The Charismatic Male Jezebel Conquest By Romance and Assimilation

Characteristics of the Jezebel Spirit in a Man

How To Recognise Religious Spirits

Don’t Eat at Jezebel’s Table Pt 1

The Nine Characteristics of Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Dr Les Carter is a professional psychotherapist and provides some helpful information on his Youtube Channel “Surviving Narcissism”.

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476 Responses to 30 Traits of the Jezebel Spirit

  1. Zorah says:

    Sorry, but you are incorrect here; Jezebel is a specific demon and TEACHING; not a nasty person you might encounter on Sunday. Just as there is one HaSatan; there is one Jezebel. “I have a few things against you, because you suffer that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to TEACH and to SEDUCE my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed to idols.” Revelation 2:20. Notice Christ says “THAT WOMAN” not women, spirits, traits. Jesus is specifically talking about a feminie demon; Jezebel the princess of Tyre, i.e. Ishtar Queen of Heaven wife of Baal. Jezebel doctrine is likely Marian worship; Marian Apparitions” are likely this “woman” Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, and seeks worship and also sets up Baal-worship in the church. This Demon Jezebel posing as false Mary is mostly tolerated in Catholocism, and by Islam but is closely linked to doctrine of Balaam; a system of idolatry for love of money.

    • Keith S says:

      Zorah, scripturally, there are spiritual influences in our lives. A person can have a spirit speaking thru them and influencing them. Jesus said to Peter, “Get behind me Satan.” John the baptist came with the spirit of Elijah. People get possessed. Think of it this way. The openings in our lives, open the door for the enemy to use us. I’m not saying possession. But if you are not saved, I will say possession is a possibility. The spirit of Jezebel is REAL!!! If we are not submitted to Christ in every area of our life, then we are open to have demonic influence in our life. What would you be thinking if Jesus said to you, “Get behind Me Satan.”?

      • sparkle says:

        Keith, I was raised Catholic and I can tell you that most
        catholics DO worship Mary, and will even talk more about
        her than they do about Jesus. Don’t tell me they
        don’t do this because I grew up catholic and didn’t
        know better until I got saved in my early 20;s. The Pope
        talks more about “Mother Mary” than he does about
        Jesus, and most catholics think of her as “co-redemptress”,
        which is ridiculous because JESUS alone is the savior
        and He alone is able to hear and answer prayers. We
        are NOT to worship Mary in any way, shape or form. Yes,
        we should honor her as the mother of Jesus, but in no
        way should we place her above Him or even on the
        same level. She had to get saved just like anyone else.
        She was simply a vessel to carry the Lord into this earth.
        She herself is not to be worshiped the same way we
        worship Jesus. In fact, if you really want to honor Mary,
        get your eyes off of her and onto the one and only
        savior Jesus Christ. If Mary were here still on the earth
        she would tell Catholics to stop praying to her and
        focus only on her Son, JESUS, the one and only Savior!
        And please open your ears…..if you think Catholics
        don’t worship Mary, you need to pay more attention.
        Remember, this is coming from a former Catholic…who
        is now a born-again Christian.

      • Dan says:

        They also enjoy other people’s suffering and find it amusing. They tell lies and then hold the person whom they have lied to as accountable for the resulting negative effects, because you made the error of believing that the Jez was sincere. They imagine that you are going along with their lies, or they feel superior for pulling one over on you, but in the end they will blame and fault you for having being deceived when it blows up in their face. They will not take personal responsibility.

    • zmike says:

      Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ. Old Jewish tradition is that the queen is the mother of the king and not his wife or wives. You go to the queen and ask her to talk to her son for you. No catholic worships Mary so again the Leviathan spirit is in control here. She is an intercessor and we honor her. Jesus even told his disciples who is all who follow him that this is your mother. the angel of the lord stated that blessed are thou among women. pay attention to what God wants. it is not difficult. He wants you to love him and for him to love you. focusing on others is the works of satan.

      • Ally says:

        “She is an intercessor and we honor her.”

        Repeat the word INTERCESSOR.

        Now, recall back that Mary is currently DEAD.

        Now add these 2 together. INTERCESSOR + DEAD.
        (In case you may be thinking, well Jesus was dead too. You’re right. BUT,He RESURRECTED. Tell me when did Mary resurrected? )

        Does NECROMANCY rings a bell for you?

      • The Bible doesn’t say anything about Mary being the intercessor. Jesus is the intercessor between God and man, and the Bible clearly says He is the only one:

        “No man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6)

        That doesn’t say “…except by me and my mother”.

      • Soldier4Christ says:

        Where in the bible does it say that Jesus told the disciples that Mary was their mother?
        I do want to point out that based on scripture Jesus never once called her mother and never once did He do any miracle by following her orders. Read what happened in the wedding at Cana how He called her woman and also He didn’t proceed to do what she said but instead He told her that His hour had not yet come. He and The Father worked as one. When He did the miracle at the wedding, He did it without Mary having to do anything with it, remember His reply to her woman, what have I to do with thee?
        Jesus did this so it would be clear to everyone that Mary did not have anything to do with Him while He lived doing His Father’s will and also so no one go worship or give credit to someone who had nothing to do with the main ones that give testimony in heaven who are The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost.
        There is no queen, you’ve been deceived.
        There is more explanation to this but not much is needed if you know the scriptures

        • What you say is interesting. If you would like to share your experiences please post here or email me and – if you wish – it could even be put into a blog post, anonymous or otherwise.

      • Jay says:

        MARY IS DEAD……..She CANNOT intercede for anyone……ONLY JESUS CHRIST is alive,

      • Olo says:

        The one true and holy Catholic Church has what all the other incomplete and faulty denominations don’t have and that is the God-given authority as Jesus said to Peter-on this rock I shall build my church-to actually be the church of Jesus. With this continuation of authentic faith from Jesus the Goodman himself unto Peter and now to the current Catholic Church (the one true religion that guarantees your salvation).
        Catholic faith has the holy bible as well as tradition. It even states in the Bible that all the amazing works and sayings of Jesus as well as the apostles and his mother Mary his most perfect apostle could not fit because there would be too much to write. So it is known through tradition that Mary was assumed into heaven after her death. why? Because she was more than just a vessel, she was the beloved and holy mother of God. How could Jesus just come from some vessel? He was the most perfect and loving son with no sins that loved his mother and would never allow for her holy body to become corrupt in the ground.
        Read about Fatima apparitions. There were many nonbelievers, that woke up to the truth.

      • NICOLLE says:

        I’m sorry- I am a former catholic but you sadly are wrong. You must read the BIBLE to learn the truth and the truth will set you free. I was catholic for over 30 years and finally found a church which is a bible preaching church – You are to have NO OTHER GOD EXCEPT ME- Therefore, don’t pray to Mary, PRAY TO JESUS- hE IS the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the father except through the son, Jesus Christ. If the bible said – You can come to me through my son Jesus and his mother Mary then I would agree with you but that’s not what is written in the word. It’s unfortunate so many catholics are falling for the lies of the catholic church- I pray for my parents and my family because they are still catholic.
        If you are not BORN AGAIN you will not enter the gates of heaven. so please read John 3:16 and accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior and be saved- stop praying to Mary- yes she gave birth but our Lord and God never TOLD US TO PRAY TO HER- please do it before it’s too late. This pope is the anti Christ- wise up- listen to what he says. The word says don’t transform to the world but be transformed by renewing your mind (reading the bible) this pope is liberal, accepts lesbian/gay community and yes they cover up and move Priests that molest children. After the pope comes the devil himself who will perform mircales and will call himself Jesus the messiah- Do not be fooled- Jesus rose to heaven and will return from the sky- I pray you receive this in love – read your bible because God is showing us the birth pains- He’s preparing for the 2nd coming- the tribulation. chances are you haven’t talked about that in a long time or never have perhaps. They don’t want to educate the people and actually the service is very ritualistic= similar to Satanism. Be weary and watchful. I’ll pray for your salvation and again I say this all in love. I want to see you and meet you in heaven one day.

    • Soldier4Christ says:

      Zorah, I don’t understand your point when you say that jezebel is a demon and teaching not a nasty person. ..the title alone clearly described it is a demon, just by saying jezebel spirit, that is describing a type of demon.
      Spirits are not human, and when we read jezebel it is clear it is referring to a demon not an angel of God That is at Gods service

    • Diania says:

      Well Zorah, Keith S. is at point. When Jesus confronted that Jezebel spirit, yes it was in a woman. however, the bible did not specify that the Jezebel spirit, (demon however you want to identify it as) is only influenced through women, but it can be seen through any gender, age etc. The bible is not written in the literal, but in parables. Which is “a short allegorical story designed to illustrate or teach some truth, religious principle, or moral lesson. a statement or comment that conveys a meaning indirectly by the use of comparison, analogy, or the like.” You can bet the Jezebel can come through anyone. Actually, looking at psychological disorder definitions, I would say that narcissistic personality disorder is the same as a jezebel spirit (demon).

      • Yes, it has been said that the Jezebel spirit is similar to or the same as narcissism or narcissistic personality disorder. The Jezebel spirit most certainly does work through men. The Jezebel spirit is a controlling witchcraft spirit and men can be just as guilty of that as women. The Bible tells us that Jezebel had 850 male followers who ate at her table and did her bidding, making them male witches.

        The Jezebel spirit has many faces, different manifestations, and is very deceptive and very dangerous. People are more familiar with the more obvious feminine seductive prostitute type aspect of the Jezebel spirit, but it has many other far more subtle manifestations. What is more it often works with other demons in a co-ordinated network, for example alongside a witty and entertaining demon to hide its presence.

      • Zorah says:

        The point is you are missing the entire context of how “Jezebel” was brought up by Christ in the book of Revelation. He identified Jezebel has a specific doctrine in Thyratira church. One can glean from Old Testament history of Elijah and Jezebel to gain in understanding how this doctrine operates in the church. I am not saying demons don’t possess or influence people. What the poster is describing are mainly behaviors attributed to works of the flesh.

        • Arendale says:

          Yes, the things the poster said do point to works of the flesh; but they also point to works of evil spirits. Let me give what to me is a brief lesson and remind you of the importance of exercising your discernment:

          The Bible includes witchcraft when talking about works of the flesh. (Gal. 5:19-21.) Works of the flesh and works of evil spirits basically always go together. This is why the NT makes no small ado about the believer’s need to EXERCISE his/her discernment. Even when we are asleep, our discernment is operating on the three levels of who we are: body, soul, spirit. That means that when we are awake, our bodily, soul, and spirit discernment continue to function which means that we are 24/7 discerning (distinguishing between) things even without our own awareness: our bodies discern what is a good or bad or comfortable weather or atmosphere or clothing or whatever we’re sitting on, etc.; our souls discern the same about places we are and people we’re around; and our spirits, which we are very often unaware of, do the same on the spirit plane in regard to the presence of God and angels, of evil spirits, and of spiritual atmospheres around us. (If this wasn’t true, why do you think that animals– like cats, dogs, and horses– can discern spiritual (spirit) and emotional (soul) atmospheres around people and places? If animals can do this, then humans can all the more.) In summary, we are tri-partite beings, therefore, though we live on the physical plane, we are connected with the spirit plane. That means that if I was proud in my soul (of my own flesh or choosing), then an evil spirit OF pride (that majors or functions in pride) has the RIGHT or legal doorway to attach to my pride which IS its home.

          The Bible says a lot but explains a very little. There are several reasons for this, but here are three:

          1. It is necessary for God to hide mysteries from people, because after the Fall, we became inclined towards evil and therefore would use mysteries/secrets/hidden things for our benefit and against others and God.

          2. “It is the glory of God to conceal a matter but the glory of the kings to search it out (find it)” (Pro. 25:2). God hides things on purpose so that the only ones who find it are the ones who actually want to know Him and His ways: “The secret (mysteries) of the Lord is with those who fear (honor, reverence, walk with) Him, and He will reveal (unfold, discover) His covenant (His ways) to THEM” (Ps. 25:14).

          3. It is necessary for us to learn to judge (discern) things by the Holy Spirit rather than with our own logic and intelligence and experiences, etc. Without the Holy Spirit, the Bible is completely DEAD. This is also God’s wisdom at work to hide His mysteries from untrustworthy people which Paul understood: “Men ought to regard us as servants of Christ and STEWARDS of the mysteries of God. Moreover, it is required in a steward that a man be found [who is] faithful” (1Cor. 4:1-2). The Bible says a lot, but God’s ways within them are hidden and uncovered only by the Spirit; so, the doorway (the Bible) is there but the Key (the Spirit as a Teacher) is given only to those God trusts.

          Jesus said it plainer than anyone could have when we wonder about issues that the Bible doesn’t specifically mention but that are factual, true, and RELEVANT: “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into ALL the truth” (Jn. 16:12-13). When we don’t have the Holy Spirit functioning in us to teach us, then we find truths hard to receive, even when they are in fact written plainly for us in the Bible (eg. how hard those without the Spirit find it to receive Eph. 4:11-16 and who say that apostles and prophets are no longer needed in the churches today though the Bible plainly says their ministries endure until Jesus closes out this earth age). Now, though our discernment is always functions, that doesn’t mean we are actually EXERCISING it. Exercising implies purposely practice. No one can work out at the gym without purpose or intent. We are to exercise our discernment purposely and with intent; our discernment is already always functioning 24/7 so we may as well do it purposely and benefit spiritually from it. So, yes, Jezebel and witchcraft are works of the flesh as well as evil spirits. They work together just as the Bible says constantly and often if you will ask the Spirit to open your eyes to what is clearly written on the Pages. I’ll close this out by posting a passage to show how effortlessly evil spirits and human flesh work together (please read this slowly and carefully and several times and see the distinction AND cooperation between evil spirits and the human flesh/soul or sin. Enlighten your heart and mind on how the Jezebel spirit (or evil spirits) works in tandem with people’s sins (or flesh) when the particular evil spirit has a home in (or finds agreement with) the person who is in sin):

          “And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, THE SPIRIT WHO NOW WORKS IN THE SONS OF DISOBEDIENCE, among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.” (Eph.2:1-3.)

      • EP says:

        “I would say that NPD is the same as a Jezebel spirit”. That is EXACTLY what I was thinking.

    • Donna Young says:

      Yes, the Baal spirit is deception for money in profits. While it may be an individual’s evil spirit, the love of money or profits can be set in policies approved by organizations, socities and associations. The members in those groups are attempting to serve two masters, if they belong to a Christian church. Their first loyalty will be to the policy of group they pay into, to be a member, and this membership is their security, the group, and not God. Their belief in God and do no evil is their lie because their security in a career and income must come first. The harm they do to others is the enforcement of their group’s policy, which is imposed as an authority. The group often seek a government professional Act, approving their polices and are what taxpayers, members of the public, must bow to. You may identify such groups with the Jezebal spirit, such as: Evolutionist authors, the colleges of medicine for midwives, nurses, doctors, and surgeons, and human organ and tissue banks, especially the placental and umbilical cord blood banks.

    • Mrs. JACKSON, CLEVELAND says:

      Jesus, are their biblical cleansing from this pastoral teachings as being established as a godly head in the body of Christ, as the eye of the beholder. How to get out the Hands of an Ahab Spirits, Strong holds in your city/state etc…

    • Jenny says:

      Excuse me but sorry. Sorry but excuse me: A Jezebel is totally, and utterly a nasty person you might encounter on Sunday, or in your own house, you know, your brother, sister, mom, or dad. Is a spirit, and would make use of any vessel (body). That’s their aim, isn´t it! And they sooo much enjoy this. Allowe me to tell you how I run into this word…. just by looking up at simple features of a narcissist. And why? ‘Cause I was straggling with one, this is it. There’s just no difference at all.

      • Arendale says:

        Jenny, there is indeed a difference between the Jezebel spirit and the narcissistic mind. While spirit and mind are almost basically the same thing (and therefore demons speak to you in your mind), it is still important to make distinctions.

        One important distinction between the spirit (Jezebel) and the mindset/stronghold (narcissism) is that every Jezebel (or everyone with a Jezebel spirit) IS a narcissist (and has narcissistic thinking); but not every narcissist is a Jezebel (or has a Jezebel spirit).

        The same from above can be said for psychopaths and sociopaths: every psychopath is also a sociopath, but not every sociopath is a psychopath. It’s true that narcissists ‘aren’t far from the kingdom of Jezebel’; but there is still a real distinction between a Jezebel [spirit] and a narcissist [mindset]. When dealing in the realm of christianity, a person who started out simply as a narcissist has a greater chance of turning into a Jezebel due to the ‘spiritual nature’ of church. The more the church practices ‘spirituality’ (IE. usually too spiritually-minded to be of any real earthly good), such as charismatic and pentecostal churches, the more likely that a narcissist will turn into a Jezebel.

      • ILoveHim says:

        Jenny, I agree. The secular interpretation of a Jezebel is a narcissist/NPD. They are one and the same. In other words, if it smells like an apple, looks like an apple, and tastes just like an apple…well, then it’s an apple.
        Too many people try to differentiate and use semantics to make distinctions between them when there really are none. A controlling spirit is a controlling spirit. Some people, however, allow themselves to be more fully taken over by it, while other people exhibit controlling tendencies in specific areas of their lives only. Any form of iiligitimate control manifesting in a person’s life will always be influenced by a Jezebel spirit, along with other cluster demons, behind the scenes. The root of rejection and bitterness are almost always an open door for the Jezebel spirit to take up residence and wreak havoc in a person’s life.
        Praise God for Jesus, His Blood, His Name, and The Word, and for giving us the ability to acquire wisdom and understanding about these things.

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    Beware of The spirit of Jezebel

  3. Larry says:

    Interesting. But you refer to the Jezebel as he; when, it is a she.

    • Sorry Larry but Jezebel spirit knows no gender bounds. It is a demonic spirit and spirits seek any “BODY” to operate in.

      • Dawn Montano-Allen says:

        Demons are niether male or female.Pefect example check out the movie DREN.

        • Arendale says:

          Nothing that’s unclear or not fully revealed should be used to make a doctrine. The Bible never says that there are no female spirits nor does it say that demons are the only kind of evil spirits. The Bible mentions different types of fallen angels and other spirits with names such as ‘gods, kings, princes, principalities, rulers, powers, authorities, etc.’ From my own experiences, which aren’t enough to make doctrines, there certainly are female evil spirits, but they wouldn’t be considered ‘demons’ as we understand that term. Some of these spirits include known names like the Queen of Heaven and mermaid spirits which certainly exist. Mermaid spirits are definitely not male.

          When it comes to the Jezebel spirit, it seems that it is a mixture of different gods like Baal and Asherah and not one actual entity alone. However, whatever gender is assigned to the Jezebel spirit, it does make a home in females more often than in males, due to its MO, though it uses both.

    • John Higgins says:

      It is interesting that the author states the Jezebel spirit has no gender, then turns around and uses only masculine terminology to describe it, when the risen Christ refers to it in the feminine, as found in Revelations. It’s funny how feminists claim that demons have no gender, then they go about describing them in masculine terms, even the ones who are described Scripturally as being feminine (such as Jezebel). This is just another example of how feminism has seized the Pauline congregations.

  4. 1 Kings 18 states that Jezebel had commanded that all the prophets of Yahweh in the kingdom of Israel be killed, while entertaining “four hundred and fifty prophets of Baal and four hundred prophets of Asherah” at her royal table. In other words, Jezebel had at least 850 followers to do her bidding who would have been male.

  5. genelia1 says:

    Very good article 🙂

  6. zionfire says:

    This is a good list of the Jezebel Spirit working in the lives of people. I did however feel that there were a couple of traits that made the list over personal encounters. Maybe some scripture should be researched and posted to add weight to the traits on the list.

    • Yes, it’s always a good idea to back things up with Bible references and there are other articles about Jezebel on this site which do so. Some things however like this are more written from the practical experience of many people, some under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. They are to be used as a guide rather than anything, to help build a picture – which in the case of Jezebel definitely ought not to be only a woman with too much make-up on. That is a dangerous belief. In particular Jezebel had 850 male followers who ‘ate at her table’ and did her bidding.

      The Jezebel spirit is very dangerous and conniving, and can be assigned to deceive highly intelligent people. It is everywhere, including in the churches. It is a subtle and very powerful spirit which takes many forms and works with a network of other demons, such for example as a witty and somewhat entertaining demon that Jezebel can hide behind.

      There are hundreds of articles on the internet, and audios and videos on Youtube about Jezebel and Abel demons. As always, the enemy has had his servants put out massive amounts of disinformation which seems convincing – 95% truth and the deadly 5% false information – so discernment is needed.

      • Susanna Krizo says:

        It sounds like you are describing a narcissist. Narcissism is a personality disorder, and has nothing to do with a fictional spirit that isn’t found in the Bible or elsewhere. Also, I find it strange that I can’t find any personal information about you. Is there is a reason for it?

        • It seems that Jezebel was a narcissist and by the same token it is very likely that narcissists have a spirit of Jezebel – spirits of witchcraft and spirits of religion – so that is not surprising.

          There is no personal information on the site as it doesn’t really seem relevant. It really is not a secret and my name can easily be found on the internet if anyone cares to look for it.

    • John Dell Robertson says:

      I think we all posess a spirit of some kind. One scripture says the iriy in a prophet is subject to the profit. Implying that we can actually control, manifest of conceal the actual spirit inside us. Which opens the question as to whether we can house more than one spirit or at times be swayed by opposing spirits. The real world is the spiritual world where it appears continual warfare is in progress.

      • Arendale says:

        “The spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets” is the same as saying “the prophetic nature within a prophet is subject to the prophet”. It’s like saying that an artistic person’s nature is subject to them which simply means that just because the person is artistic doesn’t mean they have to talk about art constantly or paint or compose music, dance, or a play everyday. They are artistic, but the manifestation of their artistic nature (‘the spirit in them’) is at their own control; art doesn’t take over them but is subject to them as they can use their talent when THEY choose, not necessarily when their talent wants to be expressed. That’s what it means by “the spirit (prophetic nature) of the prophets are subject to the prophets.” Prophets mustn’t always prophesy even when they feel an urge just like an evangelist mustn’t always evangelize just because he feels an urge. Rather, ‘the spirit in them’ (the nature/inclination of the prophetic, evangelistic, pastoral, teaching, apostolic, whatever) is under their control (subject to them) rather than dictating life to them.

        Each person has 1.) one spirit body or ‘spirit man’; then 2.) there are different types of ‘spirit entities’ (angels, demons, etc.); and finally, 3.) there are also different types of ‘spirits’ (a person’s character, personality, nature/inclination, mindset, heart attitude, worldview, etc.). It’s the third kind (‘spirits’) of which Paul speaks when he prays that God the Father would “give to you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him” (Eph. 1:17). He didn’t say “THE spirit” as it isn’t the Holy Spirit or a spirit entity (the second kind above) but “A spirit” as it is a nature/inclination or character (the third kind above) that is inclined to operate based on wisdom and revelation. Jesus operated on a spirit of wisdom and revelation, therefore, we should as well. That spirit He operated by was not the Holy Spirit (an ENTITY) but was the reproduction (the NATURE) of the Holy Spirit in Him. But yes, we can house more than one spirit entity (as well as more than one spirit/nature) as we see in the Bible that the Holy Spirit can live within a person and that demons (plural) can also live within a person. I hope that’s been helpful.

  7. richard says:

    I think my x girlfreind has most of the traists mentioned sbove
    she dumped me bcos of one sentence i said
    which is i quote do not make me do wrong things
    n she got very angry n just dumped me

    • If you don’t mind me saying it sounds like you are better off without someone like that, and it is better she left you sooner rather than later. Sounds like she could have made your life a misery with her controlling. Now she can be free to find someone she can manipulate to do wrong things and you can be free to find someone who wouldn’t want you to. Someone who wants you to be happy rather than under her thumb.

    • Sheelyn says:

      I’m from Nairobi and my ex too had some of such traits.
      He could hurt me so badly but was never guilty of anything or said sorry but when I wronged him I could own up.
      He was very controlling and if things never went his way, then it wasn’t any good.
      He cheated with his bff lady whom he always defended.
      He put his work, family and friends above me.
      He did good things out there so he could win many friends such that if I told the ones I was close to how he mistreated me they could never believe though later they started knowing him better.
      He always twisted things so the blame was always mine.
      I said enough was enough and I left. Was devastated but through lots of prayer I have ma peace.
      I’m now ready to date again and I’m praying God shows a real man who knows Him because when a man truly knows God, it makes a difference on how he falls in love with a woman.
      Anyone seeking for a relationship with a God fearing lady who’s beautiful inside out, write me on sheelynrubi@ymail.com

      God bless u all for contributing here. That’s how we learn amd grow and build each other

  8. William says:

    Hi,

    Scripture, not opinion please. You are assuming much and there is no scripture to back your assessment here. There is obvious characteristics of jezebel but this list could surmise of anyone,
    jezebel worshiped a false god. she was an adulteress, she murdered. she decreed in the king’s name to have naboth killed. she was obviously possessed but the bible doesn’t specify any spirit, prinicpality etc named jezebel this is a man made doctrine not the truth of the word of God.
    opinion makes no difference we are told to test all things, commanded to adhere to scripture.
    Jesus refers to a person in a church obviously exerting the same characteristics, seduction, eating from idols dedicated food etc professing to be a prophetess, yes, there is a ton of women claiming this today.. However, jezebel she is not shown as being alive she is dead. her spirit is in hades awaiting judgement. witchcraft perhaps having a familiar spirit, spirit of divination given the scripture in revelation is possible.Think about what you are saying here. how can a woman’s spirit be at work if she is dead? Jesus specifically refers to someone operating as she did. so please back this up scripturally or else it should not be bought.

    jezebel manipulated men, used them, but she did not possess them their false gods did. hence it was their false gods they cried to. jezebel being likened to a male is already in error demons are not limited to their possession even when Jesus delivered the gadarene they said to him we are legion for we are many, I’ll say they were many over 2k of them.Yikes!

    Anyhow I appreciate you are trying to reveal something but this is very general and could be applied to a ton of people, satan is one entitity not omnipresent either are demons.
    Jesus on the other hand is.

    I think far too much credit is given to the devil which in itself is a deception. she is not the queen of heaven asherah is considered to be hence she had 400 prophets of asherah.
    450 of baal her god she worshipped she was not his wife she was the daughter of ethbaal and wife of ahab.

    The trouble is we can look at characteristics but that does not mean it is an entity that needs to be dealt with and self excorcism is not even scriptural, how can satan cast out satan.

    There is some need for soundness here not based on experience or opinion because this is not limited to knowledge one has this is now being taught therefore it must be backed up.

    Thank you for reading this and I hope you can understand how serious it is to teach something not founded scripturally.

    I mean one of the comments says jezebel is real with exclamation points. that could be considered jezebel by this definition as they have to be right. no we have to not be off we have to stick to the word and teach it, if demons manifest kick em out but much is not backed up here and that is not good.
    -William

    • JuniorL. says:

      It is the gift of spiritual discernment that is given to an individual, and then strengthened by The Lord – Savior Jesus Christ… so these traits can be carefully identified and put into a list when these traits reveal themselves. When a Jezebel demon exposes itself… every-single one of these traits and/or behaviors listed above are identified in that person… do not fool yourself in thinking and/or believing that a couple, a few, or even most of these characteristics can be seen in different personality types! All of the traits in this blog belong to a Jezebel demon.

  9. There are many articles on the internet about the Jezebel spirit which include spirits of religion and witchcraft and which has been equated to narcissism and there are also many articles on the internet about that. As the Bible says, the whole world lies in wickedness. The evidence for the existence of the demonic is all around us although of course we may not always be able to discern all of it. The Bible tells us that we can pray and ask for more discernment so that we can discern the truth.

  10. It can be summed up with this “For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.” Ephesians 6:12

  11. Michael says:

    William, it appears as though do not understand the difference between flesh and spirit or demon possession. I’ve seen this spirit come out of a family member while casting the spirit out in Jesus name and so did the family member who was possessed by this demon. Truth in Reality is correct and you are terribly wrong.

    • yveclark says:

      How do you know the demon’s name? They are liars.

      • It is true that demons are liars. That’s why it is not a good idea to talk to them much. Deliverance ministers often say “I command you in the name of Jesus to tell me your name”. It is commonly said that asking a demon their name – as Jesus did once when the demon answered “We are Legion” – in the name of Jesus (so they are less likely to be able to lie) gives the deliverance more power as the demon/s can then be addressed directly. That may well be true but perhaps should be about the extent of the communication, apart from binding them and casting them out, etc.

        For example, it is said there is a hierarchy and some demons will claim to have a higher status than they actually have. It is said that some of the lower order don’t even have names. While there is only one Satan himself. some will claim to be Lucifer when they are not. One more reason not to listen to people (like Bob Larson “The Real Exorcist”) who have made a show out of it, as it is not a good idea to give demons a platform. The wrong type of deliverance could conceivably make matters worse.

        Win Worley used to get information from them to use against them which if someone really is strong enough to do, and it did enable him to write many books on deliverance. For most people it would not be beneficial and could be dangerous and it’s definitely best not to get involved with them, or make them a focus of attention. Just cast them out and find out how to walk out deliverance.

        The focus though should always be how to get rid of demons and keep them away, rather than make them a focus of attention, when our focus of attention ought to be on the Bible, on God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.

        Jesus is our deliverer and it is the name of Jesus which holds the power against the demonic. Also the blood of Jesus can be applied by using prayers which can be found on this site and elsewhere on the internet. There are a number of songs about the blood of Jesus which are powerful against the demonic.

  12. Connie everett says:

    This is good teaching

  13. Tjay says:

    I go with the scientific basis of malignant narcissism but I can see from my own family history how personality disorders are transmittable. Look at the family.

    • Soldier4Christ says:

      There are spiritual inheritances the same spirits that follow your parents and some that we open the door of our heart to. The inheritance is called generational curse or ancestral sin. Have you ever heard of the original sin?

      Because science doesn’t acknowledged the spiritual realm, many people live with many demons and instead of addressing the real spiritual issues they are drugged up to continue living the same or worse.

      We have a spirit and soul. Anyone who hasn’t acknowledged God will NEVER understand our souls nor acknowledged their existence therefore they completely reject spiritual solutions and will go as far as to label a scientific name to anyone who does which makes that person look worse than a lunatic. I would be one cause I have seen the spiritual realm many times.

    • Yes, apart even from inherited characteristics and learned behaviour, that is true and it ties in with generational curses which we know are a fact from the number of times they are mentioned in the Bible. Derek Prince’s excellent book “Blessing Or Curse – You Choose” is helpful. There are also some excellent videos on Youtube on that subject.

  14. shirley says:

    the article was an eye opener.

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  16. Mannan says:

    Could you include scripture references for each of the 30 points please.

  17. Steve says:

    check this out

  18. erika says:

    I’ve discerned this spirit being heavily active in my church for over a year now. My church is slowly being destroyed by this spirit. I have kept this to myself for the most part because of the seriousness. I am very careful and would never throw this accusation out there before the Lord confirmed it very clearly. As I always say to God on extremely important issues im asking for wisdom on “I need not a sharpie on the wall but skillet over the head confirmation please!” I have become the patsy to blame in my church and it’s been devastating to me. God has been strengthening me but I’ve always dealt with severe unworthiness issues and struggle with believing He would use me of all people in this. I’ve been accused in front of my pastor of things I never did. The woman I feel that is operating with the jezebel spirit is deep within the leadership at my church. I have watched her destroy people with full immunity within the church. She particularly likes to attach to a middle aged woman with kids and after a nice phase with the chiIdren proceeds to target the vulnerable child and begins a cruel tearing down of that child. It makes sense considrting they are easy prey as well as usually needing more attention from mom which this spirit hates. The last woman she attached to was married and by the end she was in a sexual relationship with this friend of mine and my friend was ready to leave her husband and kids for this 24 year old. Thankfully God stepped in and graciously used me as His vessel to reach her and wake her up to what was going on and the Holy Spirit gave me words I could have never come up with to save her from destroying her life for this jezebel. She is now working on her marriage and helping me to uncover this going on. I have my core group of trusted friends that are now seeing clearly that this is what is going. God has made it very clear to them as well. There is no reasonable explanation for the level of blindness that our pastor has shown. No one will listen to any of us even when we’ve tried to warn them that this young lady should not be in leadership esp of children. There are now 4 families who have left the church all at once and more we just don’t know the details about. The 4 women of the families I know are my one core trusted sisters in Christ. Two of them have been the women this lady has attached to. One was her legal guardian after they got her away from her mom. Then for years I watched her manipulate and lie and abuse my friend and her kids esp her older daughter who has some special needs issues. I tried telling her for a few years that this girl was deeply disturbed but she was taken by her wounded
    Lies. After many years she finally cut her off and she immediately attached to one of the other women in my group. I had to watch her operate the exact same way on this family as she did the first. The only difference was this lady was married and they eventually got onto a physical relationship. The disdain a pure hatred this girl openly displayed to her husband was unreal but he was powerless out of fear of losing his family and his wife was blinded completely again taken in by her woundedness that she used to gain control. All the while she’s also deeply involved in the children’s ministry and quickly got into the good graces of the leaders who defend her and cover and lie for her. She has a shield of protection within the church. Im not sure how I became the person they targeted but I did. Being painted as subversive cuz i questioned why the children’s ministry was doing so poorly. My daughter hated going along with many other children and I’ve watched this once thriving ministry dwindle to nothing and them having to putting

    • erika says:

      Sorry I hit send before I finished.
      ….having to put 6th graders with 1st graders. Im sorry to be so wordy in this post but I’ve needed to vent and get input from others outside of situation. God Wil prevail I have no doubt but I pray my church won’t have to be completely taken out for them to see it. My question is what’s the best way to talk to someone I care deeply for who is also a paid leader that this is what’s going on? I worry so greatly for her cuz God is coming to hold accountable those who are and He’s going to clean house. I just don’t know how to share this with her. Thank you so very much for your time and any wisdom I will greatly appreciate.
      God Bless!

      • You could pray about it ask for help. Also write her a letter, pour out your thoughts in the letter without thinking about it, whatever you want to say without hindrance. Then perhaps the next day or whenever read through the letter again and then write another letter, this time taking care to present what you have to say in a loving way that she will be easily able to understand and can’t be taken the wrong way so it won’t alarm her. You may have to go through and edit this letter several times. You could also ask a trusted friend to read through it for you and give you their opinion and suggestions to make sure it is set out clearly.

        You could also ask the Holy Spirit to give you some scripture to put in it here and there (the KJV version is always best).

        While talking can be difficult for various reasons, writing a letter does not involve so much pressure. You seem to be able write fluently and so that seems like a good solution.

      • Arendale says:

        Hi, Ericka. I just happened to run across this today. I’ll try to remember to save it. I’m on my way to sleep now so don’t have much for you right now. But I’ll try to come back and check it out soon. Meanwhile, I’ll remind you that “there is wisdom in a multitude of counselors” as Solomon says; seek advice from your trusted friends where you are who are wise to the situation. May God who gave you understanding about the situation in your church bless and give you wisdom on how to proceed.

    • Chris says:

      Listen people, there is what is called “white witches” that go to church and pretend to recieve the H.S., will act like you act, talk the religious talk, but the whole time they will be preying on the whole church in order to destroy it if they can. They will molest the children, give out crystals and frogs and many other things they have placed curses on to give to you to open a door for devils to come into your home. You can fight this in the Name of Jesus only. Be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.

      • Arendale says:

        Chris, you’re right. Lots of satanist and witch infiltrators in churches today. It’ll take genuine prophetic and apostolic ministries to truly uncover such people and teach Christians to discern them and their works.

  19. Cindy Lou Higgs says:

    I just read how it is that I have not a single member of my family left who will speak to me, while all this time I believed it to be my own fault. This fits my husband to a Tee and my son and daughter-in-law who are 100% in support of him and have the same behaviors. I pray that God will set them all straight. I see the source of so much of my suffering and I am in a large way grateful because I am here and have been “Washed, Salted and Swaddled” and have more than I ever dreamed going for me. Thank you for this information which is one more gift given to me for my freedom and peace of mind.
    I now understand why my family treated me like that. Now it is at the foot of the cross where I finally allowed God to have His Will with them.
    My gratitude to everyone who is responsible for my reading this! Praise God!

  20. Christiana .Y. MacCormick says:

    Hi!!! I really think your page was interesting and AMAZING, it’s just my father and brother I believe have the spirit of Jezebel almost every single one! And a few I had myself!

    I really love your site.

    Thanks,
    Christiana

  21. Bob says:

    Typical religion, no agreement.

  22. Lu says:

    Maybe the mix up is over the fact in the story of Jezebel in the bible she was a woman. However, now the SPIRIT ( behind her actions, doings,story) is that, a spirit. So they call it a Jezebel spirit. Do you get what I’m saying?
    It was nothing to do with her but the evil spirit behind it. The spirit Jezebel had, that she gave control. So its not female or male. Its a demon, evil spirit.
    But that’s how I understand it, I am not too smart. But with any spirit, lust, murder, etc… they are spirits… people don’t create them, people entertain them and give place for them. Again just my two cents. Im prolly way off. Be blessed.

    • @Lu, you are absolutely correct in your understanding. People today have trouble separating the woman Jezebel from “spirits.” When we go to Heaven and receive our new heavenly bodies we will then also be “spirits.” There will be no genders -male nor female- in Heaven. We will become “spirit” beings. Angels are spirits. Demons are spirits. Demon spirits seek bodies to house themselves in. Spirits can manifest in different forms. This is why the Bible says that even Satan can appear as an “angel of light.”

      I have to wonder if some of these men who insist that men cannot be possessed by a jezebel spirit and go around accusing all women of having this demon spirit if in fact they themselves have a jezebel spirit. Whether it be biblical ignorance, or a hatred of women, or something else what these men are doing is very destructive against women. God never created jezebel for Adam.

      I am not even sure about committing to percentages of jezebel in men or women anymore. I think that the statistics are so great in both directions along with NARCISSISM that it might be somewhat equal nowadays.

      • Pasha says:

        Narcissism is the Jezzebel spirt manifest. In other words is the carnal definition…

      • Donna Young says:

        How many would agree the Jezebel spirit indwells the ISIS members, as an active War government group, with a political agenda, that is property destruction, hatred and evil for all those in disagreement with its agenda. Prayer is a powerful weapon, please, use it.

  23. I just had a question regarding deliverance from the Jezebel spirit. I believe this is an active spirit in my church. Ministries that she’s involved in and leading are dying. It was slow over time and no one seemed to see it or anything. In a short amount of time my growing church ran out of money for a new addition which prior to was fully funded. We are left with a sanctuary that has all black walls with piping showing that was painted black. It feels dead in there. Our children’s ministry started losing kids due to utter boredom. The 6th graders were not excited to learn about God with a curriculum that was for the 1st graders thru 6th graders. 90%o of this list is what’s happening. I made the mistake of inquiring about the kids ministry decline to a newly formed friend who leads the Lil ones. This started world war 3 within the leaders and me of this ministry as my friend shared our conversation with the director. I was accused of subversion and pulled into a meeting with my senior pastor. I was accused of devulging info to this ftiend about our high school leaders whom i had never been formally introduced to, never crossed paths with, nor spoken to introduced the 8 yrs I’ve been there. There was no biblical reconciliation process followed. I proved from the “friend” that the accusation was an outright lie yet these leaders were able to spin the truth to my pastor and now it’s a perception issue. The girl I believe carries this spirit is being mentored and trained by these youth leaders and is deeply involved in the children’s ministry. This same lady has tried to destroy 2 families I’m close to using the exact same systematic breakdown using manipulation, lies, etc.. All the while playing the poor wounded victim that has done no wrong! The first family finaly had their eyes opened and severed ties after yrs of this. She then attached to the 2nd woman with family like a parasite needing a host. the married recovering alcoholic mother of 3 of the family ending up drinking again with her becoming sexually involved with this lady. As she tried to convince her to leave her husband and family. On the day my 43 yr old friend had decided to leave her hysband of 13 yrs amd 3 children to be with tnis 24 yr old jezebel God graciously and mercifully stepped in and used me as His vessel to speak truth and open her eyes to the destruction she was about to do and had already done. By the Grace of God the Holy spirit filled my mouth with words that reached her and she entered rehab that day and broke all ties with this girl. It took 2 months of close accountability to stop this girl from trying to get to my friend but she made it and is doing awesome with her husband and childrem. She speaks of this time like she was in a daze with clouded jusgement. So i give that background to say there are 4 of us that feel strongly about this. We have all had to leave out church but are feel God is not done using us I in this matter. We all had close dealings with thus girl and she manipulated and lied and tried to control. Each of us. Two of the ladies are the women from the families she attached to. I was best friends with both of them and tried to warn the first one that red flags were all over with this girl but she was not willing to receive at that time feeling she was helping a wounded young girl which of course was the same exact thing the 2nd friend said as I tried early to warn her. So i just supported and listened. My question is would it be important if we 4 feel God wants to use use together in some manner to pray the deliverance prayer severing all ties with this spirit as a group or individually or both. We want nothing in the way of being used by God in this. We pray our church could be saved but up to now the deception and blindness has been like a fast moving virus and I’ve been nailed as the Evil one trying to create division. Any role i play has to be in the background due to this but God knew that cuz the only one that l9ves the tedious job of researching infobfor days soaking up all i can to share with the others. Thanks for reading and i look forward to any input you can give me.

    • Not everything is only about money but it is interesting that at one time there was enough money for the church and then there wasn’t. Do you know where that money went? There could have been some form of theft involved and certain actions taken to distract attention from that theft, which is what so often happens.

      Prima facie, it looks as if for some reason there were demonic doorways open, the hedge of protection that ought to have been in place was not, and there have been what amounts to a series of destructive demonic attacks. These could have been caused by any number of things – or combinations of – such as unrenounced family inquity or sin, or some form of immorality of one or more persons, wrong motives, uncrucified flesh. There could have been cursed objects in their home or some connection to witchcraft. Many people don’t realize that blessings and curses are mentioned 650+ times in the Bible. Deuteronomy 11 and 28 refer. Also the Jezebel spirit is a spirit of witchcraft and it does attack churches and people of God in particular.

      There are prayers on this site and elsewhere which could prove useful such as the prayer against witchcraft and another against demonic oppression. They do only usually need to be said once each but are best said aloud with the head covered for women. Derek Prince’s book “Blessing or Curse – You Choose” is helpful and there are also some vids on Youtube.

      As you are the one who is looking at this honestly, that would indicate it is not actually you who is at fault. Perhaps rather the one who is blaming you has a hidden motive for doing so? Or someone else has made it look that way.

      You could pray and ask God to show you what happened here and/or ask you what to do. If prayer is said from place of humility in the name of Jesus, God usually answers that kind of prayer and answers it well. although in His own time and not always as quickly as some people would prefer. Nor is it the always the answer that they want to hear.

    • Arendale says:

      DistractedbyGod, sounds like you’ve been very hard at work. It’s not your fault any of that happened. I was in a church where the pastor’s wife operated in the Jezebel spirit and controlled the church. When some of the church members gravitated to me, the pastor got jealous, and when I confronted pastor and Jezebel about allowing known pedophiles to remain in their church without confronting them (some Jezebels love to have a negative environment and will facilitate negativity even while posing as Christians), the Jezebel held a meeting and sent the pastor and his apprentice, with their guns on their wastes, to put me out their church. She also wanted me out of the city and state; that was the extent of her wickedness. She didn’t want to see my face before I left, because she knew I was on to her. Her husband, the pastor, said that I was being put out of the church because she said I was going to bring division. Funny, their church had been divided several times (they’d had church splits) by the pedophiles; I exposed the pedophiles as well as the fact they’d caused the past church splits and also tried to help the pastors avoid another split… but I was accused of being likely to divide the church and cause a church split. A Jezebel will always lie and cause you to feel condemned and confused. You might want to take a break from that church for several weeks to seek God outside of the reach of Jezebel’s accusations (which cause condemnation and confusion) so you can hear clearly from the Lord what to do and if you should even remain in that church. God bless, and I wish you the best.

  24. K. Jones says:

    Thanks for the synopsis. I also respect John-Paul Jackson’s exposé on the subject.

    My wife and I just left a church where the Pastor’s wife fit the description almost exactly.

    What I find the most deeply sad and disturbing is the masking of a poor self-esteem with spiritual pride.

    The wretchedness of such an individual and a tremendous need for that person to love themselves and to receive a good dose of the love of God.

    Very sad, may God forgive and grant grace to all those people, who operate in this vile spirit.

    • Arendale says:

      K. Jones, I agree. I’ve been around these kinds of people, and I’ve had to wrestle with wanting to reach out and love their unloveliness and comfort their horrible self-worth vs. utterly rejecting them because of the poisonous atmosphere they promote and vileness that just issues from their words. There are unique people who have the Grace and ability to deal with such people and perfectly separate the spirit and wounds from the human soul, but most people don’t have the Grace to do it. It’s a captivity and bondage of immense proportions that repulses anyone who even wants to extend any Grace.

      • I have to fully agree with you on this. Very well said. This kind of love and grace is not something everyone can do. I think it’s pretty rare and hard to find a person with this ability. One of my best friends I believe could do this. She just oozes love and mercy from every pore. I see this beautiful gift in her that God is working all the kinks out of in order to use her I’m such a mighty way. I truly don’t know another person alive that has suffered thru what she has and remained focused on God’s will for her. Most people reject God for allowing it to happen. For her every new struggle, heartbreak, wound pushes her closer to Him. She’s only in her late 30s and she was horrifically sexual abused by her dad as a child, at age 16 she was raped and got pregnant. She kept the baby and loved and raised her. The product of this horrific act is a beautiful, intelligent, sweet, kind, 19 year old now and my friend has never for a second thot of doing that any other way. She then married young had another baby and got divorced. Met another guy and they got married. Like so many other women she experienced the jekyll & Hyde marriage where the day they said I do he flipped into an abusive, controlling, psycho. Those vows meant he owned her. He loved using scripture to bully her and was heartless and cruel. He abused her kids as well. She had 2 boys with him and the 2nd son was born at 26 weeks and they didn’t think he would make it. They spent months at childrens hosp while they kept him growing. He is an awesome lil guy! Her 2 lil ones were both under 5 and she woke up one day paralysed fro.m waist down and thru a serious of terrible botched hospital mistakes and negligence in not administering the med that could stop any further paralysis she ended up paralysis from the neck down. Almost dying from it moving to her esophagus. They intubated her and put her in a coma for week. She remained paralyzed for a full year. During which her husband tried to commit her to a group home telling all the doctors she was crazy and making it all up. The doctors had never seen this before and accused her of being psychsomatic. So basically they said she’s faking it. Nurses and doctors who were convinced of this took to trying to prove it for ex. by inserting a needle up thru her heel to make her react which she didnt. It wasnt understood until later why that wasn’t enough proof (hubby was still telling them shes faking) The last attempt to prove this my friend woke up to a nurse putting a hand over her mouth and pinch her nose closed to get her to fight to breathe. She couldn’t and passed out. They flew her to john’s Hopkins and finally diagnosed her with transverse myliyltis, an auto immune disorder that makes her body attack itself. A neurosurgeon said she needed to suck it up and accept she would never walk again. She even after all this said if my God wants me to walk again I will walk again. It’s been 6 years now and she’s divorced from that abuser. She is fully walking normally and on her own and loves and trusts and seeks only to live for God even Moreso than before. She is a true inspiration and her passion and what I call her holy discontent in life is that not everyone knows the true, life altering, wound healing, soul quenching love of God and she wants them to. Esp women and children who struggle with worthiness and who feel they are unlovable. She wants them to embrace their identity in christ and be free of the bondage they are in. If I ever need a dose of reality about how tough things are I just look at her and keep taking those lil steps of faith and Christ meets me right there everytime! Thanks for reading this.

        • Arendale says:

          I’m sorry about your friend’s suffering and happy that her life has been restored.

          I recently was involved with a Jezebel. He was gay; he actually wasn’t gay but did whatever felt good to him. He was sleeping with a married man. That would be something that was good to him. This Jezebel, pretending to be Christian, was vile and connived to destroy me. A Jezebel’s vileness is just beyond belief; but God has an answer for such people.

          As I read your friend’s story and her encounters with so many male Jezebels, I felt very grieved that these things keep happening. For a very long time, for years, the Lord has put it heavy on my heart the need for community and unity among people, firstly among Christians. In God’s eyes, one doesn’t have to be a Christian to do good by his fellowman. One of the commandments was “do not covet your neighbor’s wife.” Your neighbor’s! We read that and think, “The guy down the street”; but as Jesus made clear in the parable of the good Samaritan, your neighbor is every living soul on planet earth. In short, that command says, “Look out for your fellowman.” When God asked Cain where Abel was, Cain replied, “I do not know. Am I my brother’s keeper?” I believe that many bad things, including stories like the one you told, happen because most people are like sheep who are unaccounted for, isolated from a community that loves them. There is no ‘brother’ to keep them, and no one knows what they are going through.

          I probably went off-track a little, but my summary is that God created people to function best within community where people are watching out for each other. (Community here doesn’t mean a commune or cult but a love for each other so that even if you live miles apart, you look out for and check up on each other.) When community is not in place, there’s no end to all the evil things that can and do happen. When people look after each other, neighbor to neighbor, then wolves can’t harm with impunity, and Jezebels can’t ruin people’s lives without being challenged. Survivors of abuse shouldn’t have to survive or bear up under abuse; they should have someone who will help deliver them from abuse. I have to say that probably about 99.9% of abused people do not have a keeper to help them. We often hear of God restoring a broken life; what about hearing about God saving a life from being broken? May God restore His original plan to the Church to be each others’ keepers, and may God bless and restore your friend.

      • Thank you Arendale that is a very good comment, and well put!

    • Pipi Halliday says:

      That I do agree n believe to be fair call/statement, I have fallen victim to this spirit in direct hit, to the point that I absorbed their sprit of Jez, and that is a horrible spirit to have inside, it ate at my goodness it ate at gods love so much that even god was thrown from my own life, destruction followed!! I had to lock myself in my room for nearly 2 yrs(well the change has been 4yrs) it got hold of me and shook every bit of gods love out of me, I was nothing but a shell,and self harmed daily with the battle within, me trying to fight the jez, without God or Jesus!! It almost killed me, I am still in sufferance with it, I needed an army of clean hearted spiritually aware vessels with me to cut and pull the barbs from me. I could not get what I knew I needed to drive out the attributes of the negative emotions.
      I still look to find one who is powerful enough to over throw them and one in discernment to point them out, one to replenish with love patience n kindness.

      • Arendale says:

        Wow, did you say that the spirit went into you? Are you still fighting for freedom from it, and do you have people to help you there?

        The Jezebel spirit or entity has two main enemies: truth and love. While it hates and disdains truth and looks on those who speak it, especially prophetic people, as losers, it hates love even more. This is because while truth tends to trigger its hostility and it’ll battle with and attack truth, its kryptonite is love. Jezebel will attack and suppress and will often cause those with truth to run, but she will RUN from love. When you look at the insecurities in those who operate in this spirit, it becomes apparent why this is the case. Even John the Baptist had to wrestle with Jezebel (in Herod’s wife); but Jezebel never made an appearance around Jesus. This is because she runs from love and understands spiritual authority (love giving the highest authority). You will see people who operate in Jezebel attacking those who uncover her and speak the truth; but you’ll never see her linger around someone who sees through her facade to her black heart but still genuinely loves her. (She loves those who love her facade and can’t see her insecurities but is terrified of those who see her shame and heart and still love her as a person and not as some celebrity.)

        I hope you have the help and support you need there and get the advice you need here. As long as you want Jezebel out of your life, you’ve already won a huge part of the battle.

  25. jossy says:

    The comment I love most here is the one that said Jezebel is possesed by a demon. It is not jezebel that was doing those evil but the demon in here. so the name that could be given to that kind of demon that did such havoc could be Jezebel. Had it the person had the opportunity of being delivered of the Jezebel spirit, the demon would have left her, so the demon can posses both male and female.

  26. Stephanie Chadwick says:

    Thank you for this information. I have come across this spirit many times and each time it realizes that I can see it, it flees from me. I have told it you can not stay where my truth is.

  27. andre says:

    How do i help my wife getting red of it ,and she does not say she has one ,she said i have a demon ,please help me this is going to kill my marrige

    • Arendale says:

      You need a group of people near you who can help you support-wise. She needs to confess having this issue, otherwise, the situation will probably never change. Google this for more info.: ‘heaven awaits, healing the Jezebel’. It’s a site that a friend of mine owns that talks about different types of male, female, and child Jezebels as well as the roots or how they turned out so evil and also how to minister healing to them. I hope that will help.

  28. Christian Nunez says:

    Hi, I am a new Christian. I recently converted when I realized that I have been only attracting women with this same dark force. My last 4 relationships were the worse, all agnostic doctorate students from different backgrounds (China, Canada, Puerto Rico and Germany). Most showing all of the description above along with a uncontrollably sex drive. Of course people can describe them as nymphs but realizing that you have 4+ in a row as partners had no explanation.

    I recently assisted a 3 day conference at a Christian Church with Bill Sudduth about deliverance. They talked about these kind of demons, spirits, generational curses, soul ties, etc. He was clear however that the person has to be:

    1. A believer of Christ
    2. Fully confessed and repented
    3. Want to have a deliverance performed.

    The problem with this spirit is that they deny, lie and manipulate everything, so showing them like in my case even with accidental video recorded in hand is near impossible, and actually makes you think you are in the wrong.

    Andre, you have to believe first, commit your marriage to God, educate yourself with his word and what this Spirit does, and all Evil. They talked about a person with faith been able to perform a deliverance on their own.

    Within the last few months I have experienced so much. I went from been a mediocre Catholic with zero faith, to desperately look for light (without church a pastor, but simply with a bible and prayers). To been showed the cross of Christ in more than one occasion, having a white butterfly followed me everywhere, seen a white orb in my room while reading the Bible, feeling my hands ears and the top of my head on fire while praying, and feeling a tingly pressure on top of my head very like never before I praise the Lord at church singing loud to him.

    All these, the Bible, our Almighty GOD, his son our savior Jesus, demons and angels, are all so very real to me, and at my 35 I have been saved. The Bible unlike I always thought is not a reference book, but a very real powerful way to thru faith find our very own King of Kings God and set ourselves free. When it happens you will find yourself on your knees with tears on your eyes and hands up thanking your Lord in the sky for his mercy.

    God bless you Andre and remember that NOTHING is impossible for GOD.

    Christian Nunez

  29. Elizabeth says:

    I prayed this prayer…amen!!!
    I feel good!

  30. yveclark says:

    So what is the Biblical basis for this?

    • There is an article on this site. To find more about the Jezebel spirit, just type “Jezebel” in the search box at the top right. There will be many more on the internet.

      https://truthinreality.com/2012/09/29/the-spirit-of-jezebel-and-the-church-in-bible-times-and-now/

      • Where is there anything in the Bible that says all this is Jezebel? 30 traits? Where does Scripture associate them with Jezebel

        • An internet search will find many articles which analyse what the Bible tells us about Jezebel complete with scripture references.

          There is a blog site with a great deal of information about Jezebel, called “Heaven Awaits”.

        • yveclark says:

          I asked where it is in the Bible not the Internet. Jezebel occurs in 3 places and refers to two different women. Never does it mention a Jezebel spirit. You are not being true to the Word if you claim otherwise.

          • Arendale says:

            Yve Clark, if you are going to set forth an argument (debate), it’s important to define the words you’re using. You said there is no ‘spirit’ of Jezebel and that the name only occurs in three places with two women. Remember that the name ‘lucifer’ doesn’t occur often but that lucifer’s ‘spirit’ is seen throughout the Bible entering and influencing mankind.

            So, let us define ‘spirit’ as the Bible and even the secular dictionary defines it: one of the definitions (or synonyms) of spirit is ‘mind’. We know that ‘psychology’ means ‘the study of the soul’ and that ‘psyche’ means ‘soul, mind’. The NT talks about renewing the mind: “Be transformed by the renewing of your mind” (Rom. 12). It also shows that the mind is the primary center of spiritual warfare or ‘the warfare that satan wages through men against God’:

            “The weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ” (2Cor. 10).

            The strongholds, arguments, and high things that place their legitimacy above that of God’s Word are “thought(s)” which occur in the mind. To summarize, the same spirit(s) that worked in Queen Jezebel and in the woman in the Church of Thyatira have worked, can work, and do work in people from the past until now. This is not at all hard to believe once you realize that spirit and mind are basically the same. And once you see Jezebel at work in other people in the Bible such as Herodias (Herod’s wife who had John the Baptist killed).

            If your argument rests on the fact that the Bible never says the words “Jezebel spirit” together, then you must discount most of the Bible and all its claims about God and must discount all of Christianity. There are very few evil spirits that are named in the Bible; yet it says that Jesus cast out many evil spirits and demons, only stopping to get the name of one group of evil spirits: was Legion the only evil spirit in Jesus’ day because he was the only one named? This is the logic of your argument about the Jezebel spirit. Remember the spirit of Divination in the slave girl and the unnamed spirit that beat up the seven son of Sceva? Of course Jezebel exists as do all the legions of unnamed evil spirits. They function mostly through people’s minds or, rather, ‘mindsets’– those worldviews and beliefs that control people and force them to contradict the Bible. Some of these worldviews with corresponding spirits (and spirits with corresponding worldviews) are: Racism, Pride, Religion, Tradition, Jezebel, Hatred, Anti-Christ, Murder, etc. Ignorance among Christians about these matters is no longer okay. Paul said, “These times of ignorance God winked on but now commands men everywhere to repent” (Acts 17). We’re in the last days now and are quickly approaching a time when ignorance of the things I’ve mentioned here will be judged rather than excused.

    • yveclark says:

      Arendale, are you suggesting Queen jezebel was not responsible for her actions? Evil is not confined to spirits. She was a sinful woman who did sinful acts. A sinner. The Bible suggests mothing else. I am not interested in speculation nor nob Biblical debate.

      Your point about Christianity is irrelevant too. I do not support any doctrine that is not found in Scripture. That includes Church calendars, church councils, Rome and so much more. Sola Scriptura. That’s it.

      • A search on Google will find many who believe in sola sciptura and write about Jezebel. There’s quite a lot in the Bible about Jezebel. There is nothing wrong with tying this in with modern day situations and people, which can help in a practical way. The Bible tells us that all scripture is profitable for learning, and etc.

        The Jezebel spirit is a principal spirit of witchcraft which has many faces and among other things presides over false religion, cults, false doctrine and destroying churches.

        It is by no means only female (neither only a seductive type of woman) as it is about control (witchcraft is about control as in the manipulation of reality) and often works through men.

        The Bible tells us that Jezebel had 850 male prophets who ate at her table.

        The Jezebel spirit is also capable of supplying a false holy spirit.

        The Jezebel spirit at one point caused Elijah to feel that he wanted to die.

        So the Jezebel spirit is very wicked and very dangerous and should not be underestimated.

      • Arendale says:

        If Jezebel wasn’t responsible for her actions, God could not judge her. But He did. The Bible suggests a great deal more than that Jezebel was just a sinner. If you are baptized in the Holy Spirit, what the Bible says between the lines of the actual words will open to you.

        There are many doctrines found in Scripture that you probably don’t support, so you shouldn’t think that you understand everything that the Bible says. I’ll take a guess at several truths or doctrines in the Bible that you possibly or probably don’t know about, agree with, or believe in:

        1. God and satan sometimes cooperate together to bring about certain desired outcomes on earth.

        2. People can lose their salvation, and many Christians are going into eternal judgment and not to Heaven.

        3. There are certain sins that the Bible openly decries (like murder)… and certain ones it is completely silent on (like pedophilia). So, is it really ‘sola Scriptura’?

        4. Christians are primarily to depend on the Holy Spirit, not the Bible.

        The last one has the potential of blowing most Christians’ minds (charismatic Christians included); but on second look at the NT, it begins to disturb and dismay many Christians who realize that while Jesus and other NT writers said that the Holy Spirit would be given to teach and lead Christians into ALL truth, no one in the NT says that a Book (the Bible) would be a.) compiled or b.) would actually be finished as a ‘Canon’. So much for “I do not support any doctrine that is not found in Scripture. That includes… church councils, Rome…” Man ‘finished’ the Canon; God didn’t. Did you ever consider that? No. No one does. Since God never finished the Bible, should it continue to be written till today? Well, I hope we don’t leave that decision in the hands of the councils that added and subtracted books till they get what we call today the Bible.

        So, the Bible is for the weakness of our flesh– to have it written out for our sakes. But the Holy Spirit IS the Teacher (or the One who interprets to us God’s language or words which is for us the Bible) and IS the primary One given to us from the Father Himself. Anyone can read and memorize the Bible; but the Holy Spirit writes the entire Word on our hearts so that “you do not have need that anyone should teach you” (see 1Jn. 2:20, 26-27) nor do we necessarily need a Bible. So, next time you say, “Sola Scriptura”, just know that sola scriptura the way so many seem to use it isn’t scriptura(l) at all.

        All that said, if a tree falls in the forest with no one around, it makes a sound whether or not one hears it. In the same way the truth is the truth and doesn’t need people or things to acknowledge it before it becomes truth: there certainly is such a thing as a Jezebel spirit which is more a conglomerate of wicked and disgusting evil spirits than just one entity. The most ardent unbeliever in the Jezebel spirit needs only to visit at least charismatic churches across America with notepad and pen (or laptop) in hand; as long as he/she is honest, they would eventually come to recognize and record the presence, influence, and effects of this spirit in so many churches. The Bible has already recorded evidence of this, but when it comes to truth, everyone believes or denies it according to their own faith and free will.

      • yveclark says:

        I found your reply in my email but it has gone merged from here. It ignored the question and addressed an unrelated issue. The question needs about answer.

        • Arendale says:

          Are you addressing me? If so, repeat your question in simple format. If I respond by going what you think is off-topic, it’s for a reason. Some people can’t hear truth straight forward; you give them a question for their question instead of an answer so they can answer their own question. Jesus did this all the time, and it still separates those who want truth from those who don’t.

      • @Yveclark- there was no ‘reply’ button on your above question about where the basis for this is in the Bible so I am making a reply here. Maybe this will help to explain some things. The answer is that the Bible does not provide a list of all names for demons, but we know they have names because of Jesus’s example in calling them out. Sometimes “names” refers to ‘lying’ spirits, or the spirit of murder, or ‘sexual’ spirits…. like this. But as noted above Jesus called out “Legion” which means a “multitude.”

        The writer of this website gave an excellent explanation above about casting out demons. If preachers today were teaching how to cast out demon spirits instead of submitting to them, or trying to run from them then there would not be so much ignorance on the subject.

        People need to learn of our spiritual enemy instead of ignoring it. Those who ignore the Devil, his demons and the powers he uses against us wind up being deceived and controlled by the Devil. One should never play around with the Devil and his demons. You learn to take spiritual authority “IN THE NAME OF JESUS” and to cast the ole boy out- out of your home, out of your life, and out of people. Demons shrug at the Name and Authority of Jesus Christ. That is how one defeats the Devil. However, the Bible also warns us that it is not enough to just cast these demons out. If people are not cleaning up their lives, their homes, their temple (own bodies) of everything that leaves an open door for these spirits to return then these spirits will return and it will be 7 times worse than before. I just do not have the time to look up this scripture but it’s in the Bible. What this means is that if people do not clean house and close every door to the Devil and his demons that when these spirits return then there will not likely be any opportunity to ever be free again.

        Cleaning house means to throw out the garbage music, magazines, books, movies, television, pornography, occult paraphrenalia. If there is a problem with the tongue ask the Lord for help. If there is a problem with a filthy mind, then ask the Lord for help, and so forth. Peoples homes and lives today are filled with all kinds of filth, especially church goers because it is the Devil’s plan to infiltrate the church with filth. People have become DESENSITIZED to what filth is. The best way to take care of this is to ask the Lord to show you what has to go BUT a person has to be willing to OBEY the Lord instead of making excuses to do what they want.

        I did not intend to write so much. It just comes to me. Maybe something I have written will be helpful to someone.

      • Donna Young says:

        The USA is having an election and those living outside the USA are very concerned an evil spirit indwells in at least two of those running for the office of President. We read of strange deaths surrounding one candidate, called a liar. And the other one seems to have sex gender attitude that women are made for a male’s sexual play thing. In God we Trust who is best to lead America, and there will be due diligence in daily prayers, for God’s guidance at the election polls, and the count will be honest.

        • Arendale says:

          The Jezebel spirit is behind far more people and things than most of us (including myself) are aware of right now, I believe. It’s a global thing and is hard to define since it isn’t confined to ‘spirits on the ground’ that enter people but is more often ‘spirits in the air’/heavenly places with links (like umbilical cords) connected to people on earth through whom they then function. As for the presidential candidates, neither candidate is good. The world is coming to an end as we know it, and both candidates are lucifer’s hands (as Obama was) to continue to drive it in that direction.

  31. How come no one ever considers the victims that the jezebel alienates and destroys? I have been screaming to the top of my lungs for several years now trying to communicate with another human being and all I ever receive is silence.

    There was NO ONE who ever came to my side while JEZEBELS ran me down. Everybody has submitted to the jezebels.

    So many men get all defensive when you say that men too can have jezebel spirits. The way the Bible describes the antichrist I would say that this coming world leader who will be the Antichrist will also have a jezebel spirit. I imagine that the White House is full of them including other world leaders. Probably some of the men who are so angered about this also have a jezebel spirit themselves. They just do not want to be caught. It is always so much easier to blame the woman for whatever they do wrong than to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for their pathetic behaviors. Genuine Christian men will not shame God or women. Controlling women, humiliating them, treating them like trash is NOT the behavior of a Christian.

    Once jezebel men destroy a woman, and destroy her reputation, and not a soul will have anything to do with her then what? You see, there is nothing anywhere about recovering from the damage of a man’s destruction. And with the increase in homosexuality today the jezebel spirit can only increase within homosexuality. I also believe that pornography is heavily involved in this tearing down of the Christian men in our society.

    And for those who are still reading the books written by false prophets, the NAR witches, and involved in the cults with false prophets then you are already submitted to jezebels.

    • Tjay says:

      I’m sorry you had to go through this. A lot of us have. I recommend Smakintosh on YouTube. He talks about the malignant narcissist personality, which we think is the same thing. They bewitch entire families, neighbourhoods, communities. What they do is pure witchcraft.

  32. @Tjay- thank you. I will look up that video. I have no doubt that narcissism lives within the jezebel spirit. The way the Bible describes how people will be in the last days I would say also describes narcissism. These word of faith, prosperity people are obsessed with occult teachings. They remind me of the little boys from the classic story “Lord of the Flies” who turned into savages but could not see what was happening to them until they were captured.

    I wish that I could meet other people who are going through the same things that I am. I have not been successful in meeting anyone. There is no one helping the scattered and battered sheep.

    • Arendale says:

      Hi there. You said you wish you could meet people who are going through the same things as you. Several questions:

      1. What things are you going through?

      2. Where in the world are you located?

      3. What has the Lord told you about your isolation?

      I was isolated for twelve years from any meaningful fellowship. Only this past Dec. 18th did I meet a believer who seems to genuinely want to follow the Lord, connect with other genuine believers, serve under a genuine and godly spiritual mentor/father, and be equipped and prepared for the ministry God has called him to. That’s just what I’ve been needing and looking for. I believe that while it is sometimes God’s will that we be alone for a season, it is never His will that we be isolated or remain alone. We see this first in Adam who was alone, as far as likeminded fellowship (a human being and not only God and animals), until God said it was no longer good and gave him another human being to have both fellowship (camaraderie) and intimacy (friendship, being known) with. One of the things the Lord is calling me to is connecting and networking people. It isn’t good for people to be alone but to be assembled in some fellowship or another so as, among other things, to avoid deception as well as satan’s attacks which are greater when one is alone. Not till I met this friend several days ago did I begin to sense a sort of acceleration– a sense that God will work faster and things will progress faster in my (and his) life because we are no longer individuals; we’ll actually begin seeing returns and answers and victories:

      “Two are better than one, because they have a good reward for their labor. For if they fall, one will lift up his companion. But woe to him who is alone when he falls, for he has no one to help him up. Again, if two lie down together, they will keep warm; but how can one be warm alone? Though one may be overpowered by another, two can withstand him. And a threefold cord is not quickly broken” (Eccl. 4:9-12).

      God created the above principle, therefore, it’s His will that people walk together– two or more– in fellowship. If you can share some things, I may be able to pray with or help you connect somewhere. God bless and keep you in the meantime.

      • @Arendale

        1. What things are you going through? I have been shunned
        2. Where in the world are you located? U.S.
        3. What has the Lord told you about your isolation? It has been a period of waking up to the truth and getting my own life in order to meet the Lord. I have come out of a cult with false prophets and false doctrines of the word of faith and prosperity garbage.

        I totally agree with what you said regarding Ecclesiastes 4:9-12. And the other scripture about believers assembling together (don’t have time now to look it up) has never meant so much to me as it does now. I have been told that this shunning is going on everywhere now but those of us who have separated from the churches (a.k.a. religious services of organized religion) need to be in fellowship with each other. Satan is using jezebel to break up the church, relationships, and families. Narcissism dominates these churches today.

        I believe that I was the first person to ever post these 30 characteristics of jezebel on my website. It was way back, maybe as far as 2005 or ’07 that I posted these characteristics. Many people copied them, but after I was attacked by jezebel false prophets I received a threat from Sampson’s publisher to remove these characteristics from my website. It is looking like another personal attack on me because it was just one of several things hatched by jezebels to silence me.

        Any more personal details I prefer to keep in private mail. If you or someone would like to reach me then please go to my website mail page http://www.propheciesofrevelation.org/feedbackform.html

        • Arendale says:

          I understand where you are. Sorry it’s been a long time. I just heard a song that I’ll share here and hope it will encourage someone here.

          I agree with you and have felt that same way– that many of us have been shunned, rejected, pushed out. The average church structure or Christian group is following after ‘another Jesus’ and shuns people who want to follow the real one. Charismatics are especially guilty of this. But as you said, I also feel that those who have been pushed out need to gather together in their respective towns, cities, states, etc. Jezebel loathes anything that has the scent of righteousness or rightness on it and definitely is at work in the churches. Sorry that ‘she’s’ been at you; she’s been at me probably since before birth but definitely has been ‘the executor of intention’ for satan against me. I’ve sent you an email. We can talk more privately. The way is narrow and difficult, and few find it.

  33. LovefreedomJustice says:

    This is great and pretty much hits the nail on the head. I have seen this spirit manifest so many times in numerous peoples lives. I know I have submitted to it too and have had to repent.

    To add onto 18:

    18. Is clairvoyant
    Many who operate out of this spirit of control also have a clairvoyant spirit. A Jezebel has supernatural help in knowning and sensing information. If he uses this against you, he may say “I can’t tell you how I know this. I just know it.” This is not the Holy Spirit, but the help of a clairvoyant or familiar spirit. Clairvoyance may be defined as the power to perceive things that are out of the range of human senses.

    People who use the Holy Spirit’s name in vain to say “oh I know this because God told me” leads into pride. Not only are they listening to a familiar spirit but sometimes what they “see” is clouded judgment so their clairvoyance is false. I don’t believe a demon can give one accurate discernment, only God can.

    I have had to fight bitterness in my life recently. Because lately, I’ve had my in-laws who boast and brag about being “feelers” and being able to see things that I can’t see because they’re “gifted” in this gift of discernment. But when you look at their fruit in their life, it’s fruit that 100% exemplifies the spirit of Jezebel. It is NOT Holy Spirit. So that’s how I know that their “discernment” is clouded.
    Ugh and it makes me soo bitter because they look down on me, thinking I can’t see things that they can.And THEN they try to call me out on “darkness” in my life that doesn’t even exist. I’ve never had to deal with this sort of behavior. And I don’t want to be bitter. I know I have to constantly ask for the blood of Jesus to wash me away from these negative emotions I feel from being around this behavior.

    WOW I’ve said a lot on this post but I’m glad I got it out. This was cathartic for me LOL.

    Bless you!

    • @LovefreedomJustice I have seen the same things that you describe. It sounds like your relatives could be listening to false prophets? I speculate on this because I have heard all the very same things from people I knew involved with these NAR false prophets. These false prophets convince people that they are the ones who know it all, that they are the ones with the spiritual discernment and insight. These people have ripped me up one side and down the other with all sorts of lies but what really stirred the anger was when my mother who had better spiritual discernment than myself called this false prophet out and said he was false. All hell broke loose. The whirlwind of chaos brought against me kept me confused for so long but when I look at these people now and then look at myself where I am it is crystal clear. I mean, these people who ‘think’ they are so much more spiritual, wiser and smarter are the ones who following false doctrines, allowing witchcraft into their lives, and full of hatred. I am alone (with my mother) but the Lord is protecting us from all the pollution in the church and the world so that we can keep the truth that we know and believe and keep focused on the Lord and His coming….not the things of this world or people. Someone told me once that the Lord is preparing a remnant and that He has something for us to do until He comes. I believe that. The small remnant is the true believers who are seeking the narrow path, and that path is very narrow. The wide road seeks the new age philosophies and theologies of signs, wonders and miracles, magic, supernatural manifestations. Their ‘god’ is a ‘genie.’

      • Arendale says:

        Truth. Prophecies, you posted something that showed up in my email from this site but I can’t see it here. You mentioned male Jezebels in it. I’ve known one man who had both a Jezebel and an Ahab spirit at work in him. This gave him a multiplied ability to trick and deceive people which he loved doing. At least one woman heard from ‘God’, she thought, telling her to marry this man. I’ve found that women can have a Jezebel spirit and a eunuch spirit but can’t have an Ahab spirit. That means women can have two types of spirits that concern ‘the Jezebel trio’ (Jezebel, Ahab, Eunuch spirits). Men can have two times more: men can have a Jezebel, Eunuch, and Ahab spirits AND an Ahab mindset. Women can only have Jezebel and Eunuch.

        Here are three links to very good teachings on at least three male renditions of Jezebel when Jezebel manifests in a man:

        1. Charismatic Jezebel: https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/the-charismatic-male-jezebel-conquest-by-romance-and-assimilation/

        2. Warring Jezebel: https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/the-conflict-oriented-male-jezebel/

        3. Minister Jezebel: https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/the-jezebel-minister/

        There is also the Peter Pan Jezebel (https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/the-peter-pan-jezebel/) which is juvenile narcissism or the Jezebel spirit in child form; both females and males can have it.

        And yes, I believe that many men who seek to control women by accusing them of having Jezebel do have Jezebels themselves or, at the least, a very bad controlling spirit.

      • Carmen says:

        Thank you for sharing God bless you and your mother stay strong in the Lord and the power of his might

  34. Glen says:

    Yes I marred a women that has all trates.of a Jezebel spirt I. Returned. Back to her 4 Times from the. Months of. January. February. March april. May .the spirt. Was gone.we love each other.like out of this world.the kids enjoyed bible. Study. Each week.life was good.then June things would start happying. Again she seemed. To have.two different People. Going on in side..it got so bad.she would throw. Me.in jail. The last time with her I told her if I come back things will be.God and family.two. months back with.her. I sufed. A heat stock.I ask her if she was a jezsble.she look at me .with s look I have never seen in her.and. said. No.I ask God to help.as I was praying.she said to me. Don’t bring. Him in to it.then I know. What I was dealing. With .I had to leave her again. Now I am living my life with Jesus. And. His father.there a lot of things I have experience.with this demon.I haven’t. Told anyone.all I can say I’d I thank Jesus. Chist. For getting me away from it.I still love my wife.what do I do.I leave. It in gods hands.

    • Arendale says:

      Sorry to hear, Glen. The Jezebel spirit is a murderer/murderess. There’s really no rescuing it. I believe that maybe 90% or more of all people who mature in a Jezebel spirit will never let Jesus save them. Sorry that you had to go through that.

  35. tracy says:

    Am I possessed if I think I’m a psychic with spirit guides? I know they get things wrong but they do tell me things that are sometimes right. They talk to me and give me advice. I ask them what I should do and they guide me. Someone once said I was possessed, I have done some evil things in my life, had tarot cards and other occult things, I have books on the subject and developed my spiritualism powers but does this mean I’m possessed? My childhood was traumatic, having been in foster care as my parents couldn’t cope, I was kicked out when I was 16. I fell pregnant to a man older than me, I lost custody of my son as the state granted my ex custody due to diminished responsibility and my then lack of ability to support my son, I planned and got revenge on my ex although I have been in trouble for stalking other boyfriends. I was hospitalised for mental reasons, I’ve tried to commit suicide more than once. I take drugs but not hard drugs anymore just marijuana I’ve been involved with occult things for a long time and believe that I have guides. I have tried religion but it really doesn’t do it for me although I do believe in god. I know what I do is anti-christian but does it mean I’m possessed or am I just a subject of bad parenting and abuse? Someone said that I’m involved with Lucifer and I’m preaching evil, are they right? I need help and advice. I have phoned the Samaritan helpline but they can’t really help me. Can you please help or pray for me?

    • Jesus saves and would never judge us unfairly as humans tend to do. No one could ever understand and love us like God does. As the Bible says, we are all conceived in sin, and the whole world lies in wickedness and we all need to be saved. The Bible tells us there is no other name by which men must be saved but the name of Jesus. God only asks that we believe in His Son Jesus and that He is the Christ and we are saved by grace. Jesus asks us not to just listen to what He says but to do all that he says. If we love Him, we will listen to what He says and do it. It doesn’t matter what our past is. There is no sin that is too great to be covered by the blood. The Bible is clear that no one has the right to judge another because only God knows the real truth of a matter. The parables that Jesus told help us to understand more clearly.

      Luke 18:9-14

      The Bible warns us over and over again to carefully keep away from following false teachers of which there are many. Churches have been infiltrated and many have lost their way and are leading many astray. In this Bible passage we are warned against following particular preachers or church denominations.

      1 Corinthians 3

      Milton Green was one of the few who were truly inspired by God and there are many of his vids on Youtube. He wrote excellent book called “The Great Falling Away Today” which is linked to at the foot of this page.

      With regard to coming out of the occult, that is something many including Christians do not understand, nor often do they know how to deal with those coming out of the occult. So it’s important especially in these days when so much is difficult to navigate, not to expect too much from people but to look to God and Jesus and Our Helper, the Holy Spirit.

      With some effort, it should be possible for most to find a good pastor who can talk with you and pray for you, and comfort you without judging. Primarily through God’s word, the (KJV) Bible, we should turn to God. through His Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, and repent.

    • Arendale says:

      Hi. Sorry about your struggles. Lots of people have spirit guides or/and familiar spirits. Many are born with them, or they introduce themselves when the person is a child (happens often), especially a lonely or abused child. Bad things come into people’s lives not just from their sins but also sins of others as well as from negative generational habits and sins and demons (and familiar spirits). A lot of people want to do right and even walk with God, but they don’t have any real encouragement to do so. Unfortunately, the churches are mostly not working as they were originally meant to, and therefore, a lot of benefits and blessings are MIA around Christians and in everyday life.

      David said, “Bless the Lord oh my soul… and forget not all His benefits” (Ps. 103). Most of His benefits are lacking right now, and answers are few and far between. Many people have unanswered questions, and clichés and such don’t work. Many Christians have turned, are turning, and will turn to occult means such as Wicca (loads of Christians at my college were into Wicca, and my ex-girlfriend left the church to become Wiccan), darker forms of occultism like witchcraft and satanism, New Age, and overt forms of idolatry like the worship of angels or Mother Earth, etc., all because they have not found answers in churches. Hopefully, this will change soon; and hopefully, you’ll find the answers you need. A prayer for you:

      Lord, You are the Answer when there are only questions, the Solution when there are only puzzles. Meet Tracy where she is, as You do, and move the pieces around for her to connect with the right people who have living faith toward God and who can impart or share with her fulfilling Life from You. And give her peace as You do. Amen.

    • Sarah says:

      Believing in God is not enough, as James 2:19 says, “You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that–and shudder.” However, God, our father and savior, loves you so much and is pursuing after your heart, always knocking on your door and wants to free you. He just wants you to love Him back by your own choice, to surrender yourself and your fears to Him. He wants you to seek Him, to have a relationship with Him, and He loves you so indescribably, incredibly. He just wants what’s best for us, as his sons and daughters, which is His pure love that always conquerors and frees us from fear. Tracy, I don’t know if you will ever see this, but I will be praying for you, and I have faith that Jesus is doing everything to bring you back to His light; you just have to call upon His name.

      Romans 5:8 “but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”

  36. Humphrey Cushion says:

    Hello
    It’s unfortunate that you cannot see past satan’s deception, it really shows to me a lack of thorough and intelligent thought that anyone could follow the occult. You can gain a terrible reputation even if you believe in what you do is right doesn’t mean others will and this will sully any want for people to hold you in a high and trustworthy regard. All this being said what your involved as you say is totally against all that is holy and in the precious name of Christ I urge you to stop!

    I once knew a woman that was unfortunately involved with the occult and had been since she was a teenager. She invariably attended spiritualist churches and engaged in witchcraft. She claimed to have power over men, could summon spirits, could also tell the future and know a person by just looking at them.

    She had a variety of friends and acquaintances that we’re Christian that tried to save her, her sister in law being one of them but alas she always turned back to demonic things. She often influenced others to take drugs or engage in the occult, be it via mediums and so on.

    Knowing this woman, her past, her beliefs, her want to control and to some extent being able to influence others suggests to me that she was indeed possessed and as the pervious comments identify she was and may still be possessed by Jezebel!

    Some people willingly accept Satan into there lives and pursue lucifers plan to dominate and destroy but more fool them, some reject the adversary eventually realizing there interests and actions are demonic.

    I hope this may help in some small way to answer your dilemma. May God open your heart to the truth in Jesus’s mighty name.

    Humphrey

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  40. Marshall says:

    Have you written on the Delilah Spirit?

    • Arendale says:

      Good question. The Delilah spirit sounds like it’s just a spirit of lust, but I bet the Bible has more to say about it than just lust.

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  43. Stephen John Sponsler says:

    The traits of the Jezebel in this sound like they are describing a sinner. Jezebel sacrificed to Baal..and the people to be in good standing before their ‘queen’ had to eat foods sacrificed to a god..kind of like the Eucharist. Got and learn what this means, “I Desire Mercy not Sacrifice”.

    • Arendale says:

      This book makes sense of what ‘the Jezebel spirit’ is better than anything I know of out there: Jezebel Seducing Goddess of War

      This thing is not just one spirit but a sort of cadre of evil spirits or ‘gods’ (Baal, Ashtoreth, etc.) which merge with the sinful flesh, therefore making it hard to distinguish between the Jezebel spirit(s) and a person’s fleshly nature.

      Narcissism and the Jezebel spirit aren’t the same thing though very similar. Anyone who operates in a Jezebel spirit will be narcissistic, but not everyone who is narcissistic will be operating in a Jezebel spirit though Jezebel is in fact the other side of Narcissism just like psychopathy and sociopathy are not the same but are closely tied together, one the other side of the other. Please do some research on this and you will begin to see where the Bible in fact does talk about ‘the Jezebel spirit’. (Best clue is where Jesus talks about those who come a”the spirit of Elijah”

    • Arendale says:

      Well, that’s a real mystery. I posted just now but it didn’t post exactly what I wrote. Here’s what the recent post (from a minute ago) is supposed to look like:

      This book makes sense of what ‘the Jezebel spirit’ is better than anything I know of out there: https://www.amazon.com/Jezebel-Seducing-Goddess-\+-nas-Clark/dp/1886885044/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1471216280&sr=8-1&keywords=jonas+clark-+jezebel. This thing is not just one spirit but a sort of cadre of evil spirits or ‘gods’ (Baal, Ashtoreth, etc.) which merge with the sinful flesh, therefore making it hard to distinguish between the Jezebel spirit(s) and a person’s fleshly nature.

      Narcissism and the Jezebel spirit aren’t the same thing though very similar. Anyone who operates in a Jezebel spirit will be narcissistic, but not everyone who is narcissistic will be operating in a Jezebel spirit though Jezebel is in fact the other side of Narcissism just like psychopathy and sociopathy are not the same but are closely tied together, one the other side of the other. Please do some research on this and you will begin to see where the Bible in fact does talk about ‘the Jezebel spirit’.

      Let me help, if you want help: I believe the most obvious evidence in the Bible that there is in fact a ‘Jezebel spirit’ which existed in the past (before Queen Jezebel) and is presently in existence is where Jesus addresses the Thyatira Church in Revelation. In the OT (eg. Malachi 4) and in Jesus’s day, it was said that one would come “in the spirit of Elijah”. Elijah was a man; how could his spirit be hanging around after he died? The same way Jezebel’s does, because it’s not their own spirits but ‘the spirit on them’ (with Jezebel it was those ‘gods/evil spirits’ from satan and with Elijah it was a ‘prophetic reforming spirit’ from the Lord). It is clear that the name of the woman in the Thyatira Church who Jesus addressed was not Jezebel. Therefore, the only reasonable explanation for Jesus calling her Jezebel is that He was speaking to the spirit at work IN/behind her. If you doubt this, refer to when Jesus said directly to Peter, “Get behind me, satan!” We all know He was talking to satan primarily but that He was addressing Peter. For the humble seeker of truth, this instance (along with many others in the Bible) should put to rest the claim that “there is no such thing as a Jezebel spirit”.

      The Bible only names two good angels (Michael and Gabriel) and basically one bad one (lucifer); does this mean that there are only two good angels and only one bad one and only a few demons? No. Do your research on ‘the Jezebel spirit’ so you can understand many things and people you do not presently understand. This spirit is waylaying and destroying Christians and non-Christians as you are reading this. Unlike the flesh, this thing is an entity, and unlike fleshly works, Jezebel can ‘eat you alive’ and make a complete ruin of even a sincere believer’s life. You might want to get to learning about it asap. And if you need some more info. on Jezebel the entity (not fleshly works and attitudes that hold some similarities to Jezebel), feel free to ask.

  44. Jimmy Metz says:

    How do I confront the person who has the Jezebel spirit. My wife fits the description to a tee. She’s very violent very angry person

  45. Anitra Johnson says:

    Powerful. I have recognized this spirit in more men than women.

    • Arendale says:

      Same here.

    • Barry White says:

      Yes! The old Pentecostal churches used to have mostly women jezebels, but as the years have went by men are becoming more predominant. Churches need Watchmen on their walls and stand prepared to execute the force of Holy Spirit instead of caving and pampering them. The longer you wait the stronger the foothold sill get and then you’ll wind up in a split with trouble and confusion.

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  48. Anita says:

    I came directly face to face with that.

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  52. Carlos A says:

    Interesting. But what you have described is general humanity. My definition would be an evil spirit or demon that occupies a person into selfishness, greed, insensitive, apathetic, manipulative and desires Ill-will of others. Whether if it’s for self recognition, foolish pride and/or to promote an ungodly agenda.

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  55. Ian says:

    Jesus does acknowledge His mother in the Bible. When Jesus therefore saw his mother, john 19 26 and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!
    27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home. He get John to take her in as his own mother nothing about worshipping her.

  56. Katherine walsh says:

    It’s being entertaining from the pulpit in my church because of lavish gifts and special favors they do for the pastor after not against it it’s taken three years for me to do this but I find I can no longer these people have a son that they demonize everyone in the church has fallen for it I cannot abide by this I will entertain this and I’m being ostracized

    • Arendale says:

      Katherine, you should leave and pray for and seek out a safe and godly fellowship (which will usually be a small one; Jezebels love big places where there are lights, glitz, glamour, lots of flesh, superficiality, and a chance at some kind of fame which you don’t find in small groups as you do in the average-sized church). When leadership puts up with Jezebel and no one repents, the only godly person who should be in such a place is Jesus Himself– and that for judgment. Everyone else who is pursuing a genuine relationship with God should leave unless God very expressly tells them to stay and they have total clarity about it (not fear, confusion, or uncertainty). I hope that helps.

  57. Chesapeake says:

    This is so on point. I have been under the influence of Jezabel spirit for most of my marriage. My wife has become this spirit she is super controlling and very manipulating. After sometime out of the house. I realized this spirit has been controlling our marriage. She has become demonic.

  58. Barry White says:

    Hi, whoever wrote this article is on target, bullseye! Very Good job on how they operate, their motives etc….
    I am a prophet and I can relate to everything and probably more in this article loaded with information!
    I hope you get a lot of visits because people need to be made aware of this terrible narcissists spirit that is working in our churches to tear down, cause divisions and splits. I’ve seen this happen 4 times, 2 were women and 2 were men.
    God Bless you, And God’s Grace and Favor be on you and go before you…..

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  60. Kwabena says:

    Great content. God bless you. 👍
    After reading through your content, I realize my partner is been processed by a jezebel spirit. Since she is actively allowing herself to be manipulate by this demonic spirit she is not ready to admit and be prayed for. I love my wife and kids, and want my family and her saved, cos it is getting out of hand now considering divorcing me. What can I do behind the scene to save her from such spirit. I need my wife back and need it right now.
    Please help.

  61. carey says:

    my beast friend natalie ruth scibetta has this jezebel spirit or is just a sociopath missing part of the brain

  62. Carla Tibbetts says:

    Yes very good article, I have a daughter in-law that has this Jezebel Spirit, I live in another state, I dread going back there beacuse she ignores me and says rude things, do I really need to subject my self to this treatment, I say nothing to my son because he walks on egg shells, I don’t want to make it worst on him. Heart broken mother.

    • Dante says:

      Yet we are called not to be tolerant to this spirit (Revelations). I do know my exwife has it and one of my friends. I do not tolerate it, and have managed to called it out on my friends situation calling it for what it is, full of pride and hungry for mostly sexual attention

      • Arendale says:

        Good for you to stand up to it, Dante. Most people are scared witless to stand up to this vile loser attitude and evil spirit.

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  64. Marc says:

    As a Christian people we are truly in trouble if we cannot discern spiritual truths. In Corinthians Paul discusses how these believers were fighting with each other, and taking each other to court.

    Look at the direction and tone of some of the comments posted here. It is good to gently reprove one another if our brother or sister is in error. But some of these comments feel attacking toward others. Let’s maintain love for one another, and look to drift and perfect our understanding of our Lord through meekness and humility. Search the scriptures and challenge the doctrine lovingly if a brother/sister is in error.

    I love and thank you all for contributing to my understanding. This is a newer topic for me, and I have learned much on this from this thread.

    Marc

  65. lostidentity says:

    This sounds like anyone labeled as passive, aggressive!

  66. I had that happened to me with a girl in the military base i was working with. She said I am doing nothing wrong when corrected to walk away of men watching her with big India eyes and smiling. She was an intern Geneticist working there part time during the gulf war years and I am called to reprove that situation about who controls the money reason being i was reprimanded up the ads about it and later terminated by a man called Commander David Lesser

  67. Sandra Urion says:

    I just recognized after 10 years that my now ex, is got a jezebel spirit. I am a mess!!! I’m waking up hearing songs like, “I Don’t Want To Live Without You”, for example. These articles are exactly who he is. And, its true, all you want to do is help get him delivered. But, it’s impossible! He won’t accept it or believe. I NEED HELP!!! I feel like a curse is on me. And, he was very abusive, too. Why can’t I STOP LOVING him? What do I do? Why can’t I let go? Any suggestions?

  68. Debbie Martin says:

    This is God sent! I am dating a guy that has a mom that has to have control over everything ……she has even bought same (women’s underclothing ) as I did -same color when we went shopping! She is 83 yrs old, and reading this it has shown me that this spirit has effected sons (grandsons, daughters. great grandchildren). I have seen her use money to have control. I pray this spirit has no authority over my life. I wondered for awhile what was going on but now I know. Thank you for sharing this. Deb

  69. vz says:

    Where are your scriptures for backing this information up? Each point should contain a scripture because many of these traits are plain old spirit of pride and or narcissistic and manipulative in general, not necessarily a jezebel spirit.

    • Snoopy It Is says:

      Vz, I like to say, “Not everything is written in the Bible, but everything is contained in it.” I like people to figure out the facts for themselves rather than me trying to convince them, therefore, I like to ask people questions to get their own brains rotating and clicking and working to find the answers. So, here are several questions and statements to get your brain started on thinking about whether or not Jezebel is a spirit: do you really think that “Each point should contain a scripture” is Scripturally correct and that you can find a backup for every fact in the Bible? The Bible repudiates several abominations within just several verses (eg. homosexuality, beastiality, incest) but never decries pedophilia and child molestation once; do you then think the Bible is okay with it because you can’t use the Bible to back up saying that it is wrong? Does the Bible tell us to demand scriptures from someone who makes claims about scripture that we don’t agree with or are unsure of, or does it tell US to be like the Bereans and study to show our own selves approved?

      You aren’t supposed to ask people for scriptures to back up spiritual claims that you don’t agree with. (Afterall, in the end, you won’t believe what you don’t want to believe and will deny what you want to deny.) You are supposed to go to the Bible, just like the Bereans did and as the Bible tells us to do, and look for yourself. There are HOSTS of spirits out there, both good and bad, that affect and are all around us. But let’s forget Jezebel for a minute; there are literally worlds of evil spirits out there, so debating about just one is a waste of time. I want to introduce you to the fact that God Himself created other gods to be part of His team (so to speak) some of who later rebelled (I am not talking about angels; I am talking about “gods” or “sons of God”– as the Bible itself calls them– which are a different and higher breed from angels). If you want someone who WILL give you tons and tons of biblical evidence on findings that most christians won’t agree with, you will love Mike Heiser. Start here, and read the free portion by clicking on the book (‘look inside’): https://www.amazon.com/Unseen-Realm-Recovering-Supernatural-Worldview/dp/1577995562/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1520652115&sr=8-1

      If you want video which may be easier, here is a 5-minute video by Heiser (and from there you can branch out and watch many other videos): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lLkVlc9xdI

      The things we know are excruciatingly small. We can only be in one place at one time and can only know what we have learned (which may or may not be true). We don’t know what happens around us when we sleep or what the person in the room next to us is doing; therefore, we cannot claim to be sure of things unless the Bible agrees with them and we receive the evidence by experience or/and revelation. Mike Heiser is true professional, specialist, and expert on the spirits that in fact do exist. He may not mention Jezebel, but as you listen to him, it will begin to dawn on you that this thing is far, far, far greater than just the Jezebel spirit. “Not everything is written in the Bible, but everything is contained in it.” When it isn’t obvious or apparent in the Bible, then it’s time to search, dig, and study until you find it. Heiser has done the work for many of us. Please go and appreciate his work.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Those, who support Trump and his evil ways should be excited! Franklin Graham a False Prophet for Trump is holding rallies in the North State. He along with other evangelists, who worship and follow Trump, instead of Jesus, is spreading their blasphemous message to all of America, and spitting in the face of Jesus with every lie.
        Any Christian, who supports Trump, has been deceived and lost their salvation. In 2nd Thessalonians 2: 3 Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness (the son of destruction) is revealed. 4 He will oppose and exalt himself above every so-called god or object of worship. So, he will seat himself in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. Trump fulfills this and many other prophetic descriptions of the anti-christ in the Bible. Trump is the exact opposite of Christ. … The beast was given a mouth to speak arrogant and blasphemous words, and authority to act for forty-two months. 6: And the beast opened its mouth to blaspheme against God and slander His name and His tabernacle. Those who follow Trump are described in another scripture Timothy 3:2: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3: unloving, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, without love of good,…Sounds like Trump worshipers.
        The Bible warns us in Matthew 6: 24 No one can serve two masters: Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.
        Prophecy was fulfilled, when the 80% of Christians marked their ballot for the demon Trump. Trump Tower, located at 666 5th Avenue is the devil’s headquarters, where traitorous and extreme acts of evil have occurred. Revelation 13:18 says, “Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is 666.”.
        Another prophecy fulfilled with the election of Trump, talks about a great falling away by the church, when 81% of evangelicals voted for Trump the son of perdition. 2nd Thessalonians 2:3: Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition.
        The Bible warns us that our salvation is lost, if we support the man of lawlessness. Matthew 7: 21: “Not everyone who says to me, ‘LORD, LORD,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22: Many will say to me on that day, ‘LORD, LORD, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and, in your name, perform many miracles?’ 23: Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ For those evildoers, like those who support Trump, the man of lawlessness will find themselves fulfilling this prophecy in Luke 13: 27: And he will answer, ‘I tell you, I do not know where you are from. Depart from me, all you evildoers.’ 28: There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth when you see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves are thrown out.
        For those born again and waiting for the rapture and voted for Trump, forget about it. Jesus tells us in the parable of the virgins, fig tree and workers of the field, when have of the Christians are raptured and the rest left to face Tribulation, who will stay behind, and which will go to be with Jesus. Those Christians left behind committed the worst sin, they turned their back on Jesus and accepted the mark of Donald Trump, whom yesterday reignited war in the middle east, just like the Bible prophesied.
        What to do? Reject Trump and receive Jesus.

        • Snoopy It Is says:

          You used some fitting scriptures, but I think you missed it. For one, being a lover of self and the rest of that passage applies to “men” as the passage clearly says which means “people”, not just Trump. And secondly, supporting Trump doesn’t defile or revoke a christian’s salvation. It’s those who choose evil who lose their salvation, and many people don’t know what they’ve chosen in Trump as the custom is with almost all our presidents since JFK. God didn’t penalize anyone for making mistakes; only satan does. God warns to be discerning so you won’t make mistakes, but mistakes don’t cost you your salvation. You’re to “study to show yourself approved.. RIGHTLY dividing (discerning, understanding) the word of truth.”

          • Pat Johnston says:

            Thanks for your response! Jesus is clearly talking to the church in these scriptures, not the sinners. Matthew 24: 23: At that time, if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There He is,’ do not believe it. 24: For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect, if that were possible. The elect is the church and men like Franklin Graham would be considered the elite of the church. When Jesus says in Matthew 7: 21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness. Trump fol.lows no law, he believes he is above the law. God’s law or man’s law. He has no morals and pretends to be a Christian, when He has never asked for forgiveness, doesn’t believe it or has he openly accepted Jesus as his Savior. His fruit is rotten to the core. There is no good in him.

  70. Josh says:

    I find it very strange you ascribe the traits of the Jezebel spirit to a man, instead of to a woman. Jezebel was not a man.

    • Jezebel was an evil queen in the Bible story, who represents a very evil multi-faceted controlling seducing spirit ruling over witchcraft and religiious, cults, false doctrine, seducing, etc. The Jezebel as a spirit is genderless and is a principality rather than a demon. It is highly intelligent and dangerous and will use many different methods including long-term strategies and working in networks to do its work of steal, kill and destroy.

      The Jezebel spirit can work through men as well as women, as well as any form of transgender. This is illustrated in the Bible story in Kings where Jezebel the queen had 850 male followers who ‘ate at her table’ (this likely refers to spiritual food but not that of God but the food of the devil) and did her bidding.

      In the New Testament (Rev: 2:20) Jezebel (the Jezebel spirit) ruled over a church comprising men and women, therefore working through and on both men and women. Jezebel is known for being adept at hiding itself, hence the mask so often associated with this spirit, and as part of that has led people to believe that it only manifests as a made-up woman. That would clearly be a very dangerous belief for anyone to have – such as, for example, serial killers are always dressed up as clowns – and anyway is simply not true.

  71. Josephine W says:

    Here is a list of what Narcissists usually do to their targets:

    Insults their target very often. Then lie when confronted about it, or say it was a joke.
    When confronted with their behavior, they pretend to be innocent and play the victim.
    Everything is always your fault, even when it’s obviously not.
    They always have a justification for every bad thing they do. They think they’re always right.
    Very controlling, they tell you how to live, but they can live anyway they want. Very hypocritical.
    They accuse you of what they’re doing to you (RED FLAG!), it’s called projection.
    Portraying themselves as angels outside, when they are actually demons with their family and especially their target.
    They want you to fail, while pretending to want you to succeed (they’re very convincing).
    They never say they are sorry for hurting you (RED FLAG!).
    Poison your favourite activities, they don’t want you to be happy or to get pleasure. They also poison other useful activities like important skills which will help you in the future. They DO NOT want you to have skills, they want you to be as weak as possible. They don’t teach you anything.
    Subtly lead a smear campaign against their target, so they isolate it and make sure they don’t get help.
    When you want to leave the relationship with a narcissist, they beg you to stay with them and cry crocodile tears. They are the best actors.
    Sometimes nice, sometimes cruel. You never know where you stand with them.
    They pretend to be “victims”, and they blame the target for their own behavior.
    They are incredibly arrogant and sadistic. They see the target as weak, and deserving to suffer.
    They think they are models to be followed.
    They are spiritually dead although they might loudly profess some kind of spiritual belief.

    • Karen Koontz says:

      I am a narcissist and have the Jezebel spirit. I want to change but don’t know how! I am Miserables and made my husband miserable..

      • Just the same, we accept Jesus as our Saviour, repenting for our sins (changing our mind) cultivating godly sorrow, prayer. Renunciation prayers are a good place to start with deliverance, and there is a prayer to renounce the Jezebel spirit at the end of the article. There are many other renunciation prayers available on this site and elsewhere on the internet and as a form of repentance, they work very well to get deliverance. These prayers are best said aloud and with head covered for females.

        Self deliverance works very well using videos and audio as it is Jesus who delivers and the power of deliverance is always and only when we say “in the name of Jesus”. We need to take the authority that he has given us. If your husband is saved, it will work well for him to take authority.

        Remove any cursed objects from your home, garden, garage, office, and transport by checking against The Occult and Cursed Object List on this site.

        The Jezebel spirit often works in a demonic network (some say eg. Jezebel, antichrist and child of hell) and/or perhaps, for example, with an entertaining and witty demon which works to hide the Jezebel demon. As a principality, and a highly intelligent one at that, it is not so easy to identify or to expel as other demons. There may be some special requirements for the Jezebel spirit to do with a three-fold cord is not easily broken.

        There is so much information on the internet – although great care is needed as some of it is disinformation and some of it just plain wrong. A key is always to pray about it, check the sources, test the spirits, check back that it is backed up with scripture. It is possible to find out what you need to know and get the help from the Holy Spirit to find out what needs to be done and do it. God is with you, so no need to fear, just the name of Jesus is more powerful than any spirit including the Jezebel spirit.

        It is important to be able to walk our deliverance out. Prayer, praise, worship, thanksgiving, reading the Bible (KJV), repentance and renewing our mind, and making a sincere effort to increasingly do all that Jesus told us to do will help us get free and stay free.

  72. Alice says:

    This is really an eye opening article. Do you have more info about an Ahab spirit?

  73. Sue says:

    This article is just excellent. I sadly see that my daughter, my beloved baby, now 41, is in a very bad place as 95% of this describes her. She was diagnosed years ago via my description of her behavior as having narcissistic personality disorder. I cannot imagine her ever recognizing that in her and certainly not this and asking for forgiveness, let alone renouncing this spirit unless God intervenes. So I will just keep holding her up to God in the 20 years or so that we have left until the rapture. At least she is a believer as are my granddaughters, so praise God for that. She unfortunately is in a church that will never speak on this subject.

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  75. Kelly says:

    This sounds an awful lot like Donald Trump. 😥

    • Donald Trump is not necessarily any worse than any of them. Only God knows the truth of it. There is an extent to which people are being manipulated so that they fall into one of two camps, love Trump or hate Trump which is not very healthy as there is so much more to it than that.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        The Devil Trump is worse than any President ever. He is anti to everything Jesus is and teaches. This is just another example of how the Devil is deceiving “Christians”. That is why half of the Christians will lose their salvation and be left behind.

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Pat Johnston, in the past I would have thought you were trolling with your last comment about Trump; but I know better now.

        I’ve learned that Jezebels– who are simply ‘narcissists in religious garb’– and evil people in general (sociopaths, psychopaths, and ASPDs (people with Anti-Social Personality Disorder)) are very quick and merciless in accusing innocent people of what they themselves are guilty of. I had a sociopath (this guy needs to be locked up in solitary confinement) who accused me of being schizophrenic, manipulative, a liar, using people, and a whole list of things that he was himself. Maybe you’re a narcissist or Jezebel and therefore– like Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler, and the rest of those sociopathic hoo-hahs– you’re accusing Trump of what is in fact wrong with you.

        I know several things about Trump (and I’m not a fan of anyone): A.) When he was doing the show The Apprentice, I discerned something about him that made me think, “I would like to work with that man one day, to support and uphold and strengthen him.” B.) About week before the 2016 elections, God made it clear to me TWICE that Trump is His chosen vessel for this hour (don’t know how long ‘this hour’ is however). C.) Trump is uncovering and persecuting corruption in high places, something other presidents have not done (they chased low-level corruption and left the bureaucrats and aristocrats and upper-level corruption alone), and wicked people do not and cannot persecute or prosecute in others the same corruption that is in them.

        You need God to deal with your heart. This fiasco isn’t about picking sides but about seeing what God is doing and where He throws in His lot and throwing in your lot there as well. As the only president who made occultists go public with oaths to curse him utnil he is removed from office, there is not a single chance that Trump is satan’s vessel rather than God’s (though God knows that can change any time since Trump also has free will). “The Devil Trump is worse than any President ever.” That first statement of yours alone shows quite clearly to those with eyes to see that the devil is in you, not in Trump.

        • Pat Johnston says:

          Interesting you support the worst Jezebel of our generation and you know nothing about me, but you judge me. “Judge lest you be judges.” Therefore, judging me, when you support Trump is turning Christianity on its head. Jesus would say to you, In Matthew 23:13-39 explains false Prophets, like those leading the Trump Cult of Christians are the true narcissist. Read it all, but here is the first of many woes for hypocrites leading their flock. “But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. How does evil religious leaders stop Christians from going in by leading them astray to follow Trump clearly the man of lawlessness. BY following him, Jesus warns the church in Matthew 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ In your paragraph about Jezebels, only Trump matches your description. Nancy Pelosi is a Christian, unlike Trump she speaks of her faith often and lives a life of morals and principles. As does Schiff and Nadler. These men are honorable and educated men, unlike the Devil Trump. After the revival in the 70’s, an evil bigoted preacher named Jerry Falwell Sr., who brought us the Moral Majority. Somehow, the church fell for this line of preaching and the corruption of the church began. It continues on under his sun, who is now known for having a bizarre relationship with the pool boy. “Falwell has denied the existence of the photos — or at least that they’re of him — but the Herald reviewed three of them, which show Falwell’s “wife in various stages of undress.” I’m sure our Lord and Savior is disgusted with the church to take their salvation away and deny them entrance into Heaven. The bigotry continued with the election of Obama, an excellent human being, man of faith, whose life is fruit of his commitment to Jesus. Trump has no good in him at all. Yet, Christians flock to him to bite the poisonous apple filled with promises of stopping abortion, while children die, abused and separated at the border; he promises a stop to gay rights, even though all men are created equal in the eyes of America and God and all are children of God. There sin is no worse than the sin of supporting the man of lawlessness. For this sin, Christians will lose their salvation. Trump has put dictators over America. This is not the America God established. If Trump is reelected all will be lost, but not for the remnant church. We will be raptured and spared from the horrors Trump will bring. The great fallen church will be brought to their knees, facing the tribulation, just as in the days of Noah only worse, because those which betray God is His church.

          • Snoopy It Is says:

            I’m happy to see that you’re so poisoned that you are unable to reason. I’m only happy about that because it means I don’t have to waste my time reasoning with you. #Trump2020.

      • sarah hodgins says:

        Truth in Reality, you are correct. In the NWO plan, the Globalists control both sides, so that they always win. Yes Trump has a few things going for him (eg that he does not support abortion, to my knowledge) but look at how he is dividing Christians. Look at how he is bringing on the WW3 which was predicted by Freemason leader Albert Pike. This is all to distract Christians from the Lord!

  76. Snoopy It Is says:

    sarah hodgins, Trump is dividing christians? The Bible doesn’t agree with that but rather says that Jesus is who divides christians, making a division and distinction between christians who have rejected God and believers who genuinely follow God. Trump, if anything, is revealing the immense darkness in the hearts of christians– both christians who hate him and christians who only love him because of how they feel about him rather than how God feels about him. Trump is the only one currently holding back the spirit of Antichrist, especially having saved America from the Antichrist AND Jezebel spirits in Hillary Clinton, that witch. But my message to all christians who hate Trump for personal reasons, my message to them is that they please continue to sink in their own hateful hearts and toss and turn with disgust on many sleepless nights as they pine only for their own desires and not the desires of the Lord. It’s very good to see your hearts being revealed. #Trump2020

    • Sarah says:

      Hi, what do you mean about the Bible not saying that Trump is dividing Christians? I meant the people here on this webpage who are arguing about Trump

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Only Jesus divides christians unless the enemy uses his workers to do it subtly. In the end, you will have christians who hate God and believers who love God. No one will be able to divide the believers who love God as the Bond that ties them together is all-powerful. But the christians who hate God and are only living to save their lives, they are already divided against God, therefore, anything (whether purposely or not) can and does divide them easily.

    • Snoopy It Is says:

      sarah hodgins, I just saw your other comment. Yes, we are in the last days and there will be at least one more world war. Yes, I know about Albert Pike, the elite, the NWO, the Illuminati, and satan’s plans through them against mankind. The Bible said all these things would happen, so there is little need to worry. “Bad people do bad things,” so satan is just doing what is in his nature through those who are in agreement with him.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        God separated the wheat from the chaff, the great fallen church from the small remnant church and if you support Trump, you are chaff and will be turned away by Jesus. Sarah is right.Trump is the spirit of anti-christ and has fooled the church, just as Jesus prophesied. Name one thing Hillary has done that is worse than what Trump says and does everyday. There has been NO proof of any wrong doing by her and tons of proof Trump commits crimes and is the most amoral President ever. I will be with the Lord in the clouds forever, while you will be forever in hell with Trump. This is the deadly apple Trump has given to the gullible church, who have so much evil in their heart, they follow their natural instinct and blindly follow the son of perdition. Jesus 2020!

        • Jenny Foster says:

          Whatever the truth about Trump there is no denying that the Clintons are not the nice people that they appear to be. There is a very long list of people who have been involved with them in one way or another who have wound up dead, many suicided. Google “Clinton body count”. Their daughter Chelsea wears an upside crucifix which is one of the favourite signs of Satanists and that says it all.

          • Pat Johnston says:

            There has never been any facts to any criminal investigations into the Clinton’s, unlike all the crimes Trump commits and continues to commit, since he was elected. Whatever Chelsey wears or believes, it is nothing compared to being the off spring of Satan and benefiting from it financially and criminally every day, since Big Daddy stole the White House. Blind and hypocritical loyalty is what a deranged and fanatical cult looks like. 2 Timothy 3:1 But understand this: In the last days terrible times will come. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, without love of good,… Trump and his Cult of fanatics fulfills this prophecy perfectly.

          • Jenny Foster says:

            Sarah, you are absolutely right that politics is used as a tool to divide and rule. Far from there not being any evidence against Hillary and Bill Clinton, there are truckloads of evidence against them and they are almost certainly satanists. On the other hand, Trump for all his wrongdoing seems to be better, although he may not be, he is certainly no worse than them. It is ridiculous to say there is no evidence against the Clintons. What about all the leaked emails? Pizzagate and spirit cooking and the charity funds for Haiti that have gone astray. On the other hand, where is the ACTUAL evidence against Trump? I haven’t seen any to prove he is any worse than any other politician or president, etc. Trophy-hunting sons, yes, but that’s par for the course. Trump may be bad, but nope, there is no excuse for claiming not to know that the Clintons are very bad, very bad indeed.

          • Pat Johnston says:

            Why are you afraid of Hillary and call her Killary? You should be afraid of the most powerful lunatic in the world Trump, who has the nuclear code. Hillary and the Clintons can’t do anything to you. The idea is ridiculous. Christians should be united by Christ. Not divided by the Devil Trump. All this bashing started with the Tea Party and America electing a black man. The Rush Limbaugh of the right grew and birthed the abomination called Trump. Trump’s name means to con. Perfect name for a con-man. God is sifting the church to see who will be raptured and go to Heaven and those which will lose their salvation, because of their devotion to the man of lawlessness Trump. Matthew 3:12 His winnowing fork is in His hand to clear His threshing floor and to gather His wheat into the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.” He is talking to the church, not the sinner and fulfilling scripture of the great falling away by his church. 2nd Thessolonians 2:3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of [b]sin is revealed, the son of perdition. The man of perdition is Trump and the great falling away is the church that follows them and apparently doesn’t study the Word diligently, listening to man instead.

          • Pat Johnston says:

            The New World Order is under the control of Trump and Putin. They deceive you into thinking its the liberals, when it is actually them. Hillary has no power to harm, however Trump in less than a week has shown us how scary an unrestrained White House can ruin decent and honorable people’s lives, along with destroying those who serve Trump. Trump demands loyalty, but has none to no one. He is in the process of purging all of the brave and honorable public servants, who had to testify under oath about the President. Their reward is your fired, along with denigrating their reputation. Anyone that thinks pay back by a President is okay is beyond sick in the head. What he did was horrifically corrupt.

      • sarah hodgins says:

        I am very interested to see where the US, Trump, and or anyone else such as Russia is mentioned in the Bible!

        • Pat Johnston says:

          Gog and Magog are Russia.Magog, Meshech, and Tubal were all sons of Japheth, who was one of the three sons of Noah. Jepheth and his family migrated to the area of modern-day Russia (Genesis 10:2-3). Ezekiel 38:1 The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “Son of man, set your face toward Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech[a] and Tubal, and prophesy against him 3 and say, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech[b] and Tubal. 4 And I will turn you about and put hooks into your jaws, and I will bring you out, and all your army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed in full armor, a great host, all of them with buckler and shield, wielding swords. Trump and his followers are noted in 2 Timothy 3: 1 But understand this: In the last days terrible times will come. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, without love of good,… America easily could be the whore of Babylon and rides with the beast (Trump) devouring and destroying the church, which Trump is doing. Revelations 17:1 One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits by many waters (America has many waters surrounding us). 2 With her the kings of the earth committed adultery, and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries.” 3 Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names (Trump and the church are blasphemous) and had seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. 5 The name written on her forehead was a mystery:
          babylon the great
          the mother of prostitutes
          and of the abominations of the earth.
          6 I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of God’s holy people, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.
          When Christians sold their soul to the Devil Trump, they lost them.

      • Jenny Foster says:

        Pat Johnston, it seems you have sadly become obsessed with Trump who is hardly Satan incarnate as you seem to believe he is. It does sound as if you are one of those who foolishly believe if Trump disappeared overnight, everything would be fine?

        • Pat Johnston says:

          I am called by the Lord to share the truth about who Donald is, as he mathces perfectly the description of the anti-christ in the Bible. Each generation is tested with an evil man. Our test is defying Trump and following the Lord, no matter what Trump does or promises. We need to follow what is holy, not evil. This about saving the 80% of Christians, who support Trump from losing their salvation, because they follow the man of lawlessness. Why are 1/2 of the Christians left behind? The Bible tells us that when the church has a great falling away, because they followed the man of lawlessness, Trump that Jesus will reject you, because you followed Trump, instead of Jesus. I have already quoted many scriptures to back it up, but will do so if you need me to. Better yet seek the Word and the Holy Spirit and find them yourself. They are there,if you take the blinders off, you will find the answers you seek.

      • “America easily could be the whore of Babylon” but you don’t know that it is, do you? The Roman Catholic church could easily be the whore of Babylon, and so could Europe, and so could Jerusalem. You are just assuming and it is not wise to do that.

    • Sarah says:

      Christ didnt come to divide Christians.

      • sarah hodgins says:

        Hi I don’t necessarily believe Trump is any more antichrist than anyone else (especially Killary!!) but I do think that these major characters are placed in goverment purely to distract people from God and from whatever evil the NWO is currently doing. I mean, look how people here are arguing! I personally am very afraid of the Clintons because I have seen Killary lying but you know most politicians lie…but Killary is a fan of that guy who wrote the book about How to Have a Revolution (not sure the exact name) and that book is literally dedicated to Lucifer. Anyway my point is, politics is a major weapon of satan and I don’t believe God wants us to be bashign one another. I said it once and I will say it again — Christ never came to divide CHRISTIANS. He came to divide Christians from unbelievers. anyone who has read the NT knows that Jesus wishes Christians to be UNITED!!!!

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Jesus said in, Luke 12:51 Do you think that I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I tell you, but division. 52 From now on, five in one household will be divided, three against two and two against three.…Now, ask yourselves how many family members and lifelong friends have you lost as a result of supporting Trump. Most of my bigoted family and many of my fallen Christian friends have turned against me for the first time in 65 years, because of the division Trump brings and Jesus has allowed, as a way to test the merit of His church. A test they failed miserably, when they sold their soul to the Devil Trump.

  77. sarah hodgins says:

    Jenny you are correct, Chelsey sent as tweet out congratulating Satanists… Sick stuff. Sick people. They really need our prayers.

    • Pat Johnston says:

      Unfortunately, the Devil Trump and his supporters have less moral standing then the Clinton’s. With very little checking , I found the cross. It isn’t up-side down. It is a Greek cross, with four equal parts. I have no idea what crack pot thought that up, but it goes to show you how gullible and brainwashed Trump’s Cult is.

      • Sarah says:

        I have to make it clear again that the planners of the New World Order dont care who is president, they will use whoever is elected. I cannot honestly say that Trump is a holy man, but hillary scares me more. Both are lacking in morals to some extent, but maybe that’s to be expected with wealthy people of power. However, people have been predicting who Antichrist is since the days of the Roman Emperors, some of whom were far more cruel and immoral than modern leaders. It’s not worth attacking other Christians. Jesus and St Paul both stressed living in peace as much as possible with others, especially Christians.

      • Sarah says:

        Which cross are you talking about? The Orthodox (Greek) Cross is Christian, it just has the line above for the INRI inscription above Jesus’s head, and the little foot bar. It is still a legit and very old symbol.

      • Sarah says:

        It is really tragic that politics is becoming so extreme that your family would reject you based on your choice of leader. I find that is going way too far. I hope the USA does not have another civil war.

      • Sarah says:

        It is really tragic that politics is becoming so extreme that your family would reject you based on your choice of leader. I find that is going way too far. I hope the USA does not have another civil war.

      • Jenny Foster says:

        Sorry but there is no question that cross is not in four equal parts and it is an upside-down crucifix. Snopes doesn’t cut it, it’s a known government shill.

        There is a massive amount of evidence against both the Clintons, but sadly people want to take things on face value these days and don’t want to accept the truth because it means digging deeper which they don’t want to do. Clinton is a bare-faced liar, which we know very well from the scandal surrounding his affair with Monica Lewinski. I would suggest that anyone who truly wants to know the truth about Hillary Clinton looks into the truth about the leaked emails which are very shocking. If you haven’t looked into it, and just heard a few things about them, then you need to look a bit closer and see what she said and to whom. No one could reasonably deny that the evidence against Hillary is overwhelming.

        • Pat Johnston says:

          It is not. Please post a picture. As far as Monica Lewinsky goes, Clinton made a mistake was impeached for it and apologized to the nation and changed his ways. Trump, on the other hand cheated on a playboy bunny and his pregnant wife with a big breasted stripper and paid them money to keep their mouths shut, was impeached for far worse crimes, than Clinton and told America, Congress and the Constitution to get screwed, he would do what he wants. Humility and forgiveness be damned. There is no moral equivalent between Trump and Clinton. Clinton’s are imperfect, like the rest of us, Trump is satan. The leaked e-mails is such a bunch of phooey, especially since Trump has a private server of his own that has actual secrets, being kept from Congress and the American people. I am 65 and can assure you I have lived through three impeachments in my life, including my 3rd cousin Nixon. I have a BA in Information and Communication and an AA in journalism. I have worked in the media since 1986. Politically, I have always been well informed. You need to tell the difference between fake news and real news. Snopes, not that good.

          • sarah hodgins says:

            Free press? There is no such thing in most (all?) of the world. When the media is owned by monopolies of Globalists, you will never find true and objective news.

          • Pat Johnston says:

            I went to school for 5 years to learn to ask questions, get to the facts and report them. Like doctors, we have certain standards of factual, ethical and verifiable standards. Unlike uneducated people, like Rush Limbaugh Sean Hannity and many false prophets of Trump, we have been trained and made an oath to be truthful watch dogs of American freedom’s. including the freedom of the press, which without all other freedoms would disappear. All dictators undermine the press as a way of controlling his followers and that is exactly what Trump and his demonic ilk has done. Make America question the legitimacy of the press and our top law enforcement agencies. When you don’t Trump takes you out. Like the honorable Adam Schiff said in the impeachment trials “to go against Trump is to put your head on a pike.” More decent public servants are lining up to be beheaded by Trump’s sword of evil and served on a platter to King Trump. I believe in the America I grew up with since 1954. America under Trump is not a country to believe in.

    • Pat Johnston says:

      Please share factual information about Clinton and Satan. What I read was conspiracy theories baked up by the likes of Pat Buchanan.

      • Sarah says:

        Part of the problem is that in North America we are not given access to the true news. My friends in europe get quite “different” news there about what is going on in the US and the rest of the world. And CNN and Fox provide news so completely different from each other it makes you wonder if they are on the same planet! I dont think we will ever know what is actually going on (apart from the photos that show past presidents and other leaders in Luciferian owl worship). If you look up the Protocols of the elders of Sion, or Pawns in the Game, or Plot Against the Church, you will clearly see (and probably be severely disturbed) what they have planned and accomplished so far…neither Trump not Clinton(s) are angels and it is run so that no matter who wins the election, Lucifer controls all. But of course, God is ultimately in control. However to take our eyes off Jesus and debate politics is exactly what satan wants.

        • Pat Johnston says:

          That is what Trump and the Republicans say, but we have an excellent and free press. FOX was created by pervert Rupert Murdock, who was so pissed off by the fake news in the Nixon impeachment, he created FOX for the right. Not to be unbiased, bit biased.I watch FOX and the biggest difference during the impeachment was it was covered completely by everyone, but FOX. You are probably right, the end will happen when it happens, but right now Jesus is testing His church with Trump and they are failing miserably.

      • sarah hodgins says:

        Pat, I said I’m done. Bye.

  78. Pat Johnston says:

    They support Trump! Never before has a leader interfered with family. One of the many reasons his being is so evil.

    • Snoopy It Is says:

      Pat Johnston, as regards Trump, God uses whoever He wants. We have seen God bear with many evil rulers through the years; leave Him alone to bear with Trump as well. And as regards the Clintons, they are luciferians. It is multi-generational; you don’t really choose to be a part, so this isn’t about fault-finding but fact-finding. There are women who alleged that Hillary sexually abused them while they were little girls. There is also recorded evidence of Hillary, when she was an attorney, not only defending two men who raped a 12-year old but also later laughing about the 12-year-old’s rape. Chelsea Clinton does wear an upside-down cross; but if you must wait for satanists– who worship satan in secret but act normal and nice to the public– to break their oath and openly tell you that they are satanists, then you should not blaspheme God’s honor by calling yourself a christian, even with a small c: https://www.exposingsatanism.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Chelsea-Clinton-inverted-cross-necklace-bill-hillary-satanic-slaute-400×400.jpg

      The Bible tells us to focus on Jesus but to pray for ALL our leaders, not to malign them. Hating a person, especially without definitive reason, is usually proof that your own heart is not right. Pat Johnston, you don’t strike me as someone who listens to anything she doesn’t agree with, but I’ll still share this story:

      The very first time I heard from God was in the sixth grade (1991, I was 11 or 12 years old). There was a boy who I despised. His locker (for books) was several lockers from mine. One day as I took books out of my locker between periods (classes), I saw this boy in his locker and just despised him. Hatred is a trap emotion (which is why Jesus said to “beware of offense!”) because the one who hates truly feels justified and right. As I looked at this boy with deep resentment, God suddenly spoke to me and said, “Why do you hate that boy?” I was a little startled but began trying to find reasons: “He’s just… It’s just… I just…” I dug deep inside me to justify my hatred for this boy… but I found nothing. When God saw that I had realized that I had no justifiable reason to hate the boy, THEN He said to me, “Whenever you hate someone without real reason, the problem is not with the person. The problem is with you.” From that point on, I have never (ever) hated or resented anyone for personal reasons that I needed to justify or convince others about.

      We live in a self-entitled society where everyone thinks they should get what they want– including the president they want– and believes they can attack, malign, and slander those they disagree with and go without consequences and repercussions for those actions. This just ins’t true. The Bible says that people who insist on rejecting God in lifestyle or actions are stalked by God’s judgment. Stalking is secretive and quiet. Jungle cats stalk prey quietly. The Bible is saying that God’s judgment is silent. It doesn’t announce itself until a person’s time has come. Your hatred for Trump puts you in danger of God’s judgment. Your hatred also says nothing about Trump. Don’t let a culture of rebellion against authorities and hatred deceive you; God looks on your heart and will judge you accordingly.

      Trump is the first president in history against whom witches PUBLICLY gathered to curse and against whom witches appealed to others to curse to get him thrown out of office. Witches do not publicly curse people; they do all their works behind closed doors. satan does not attack, persecute, slander, or malign satan; on the other hand, satan and his people work like a well-oiled machine in unison and are FAR ahead of christians as regards spiritual matters and understanding. So then, if satan’s workers are cursing Trump PUBLICLY– a man who is supposedly the Anti-Christ and working for satan (you must note that satan never attacks his own)– then surely God must feel entirely differently. You need to spend your time making your calling and election sure, testing yourself to see if you’re in the faith (if you’re actually going to be saved when you stand at the judgment) rather than wasting your time reviling and maligning anyone.

      • Jenny Foster says:

        Thank you. What you have said is true.

        • Pat Johnston says:

          Having a BA in Information and Communication and many years publishing and designing materials for the internet. I have a couple of concerns, the cross is blurry and one can easily manipulate the cross with a paste of shirt color over that part of the cross. Also, it is a picture with NO attribution and therefore an opinion cut and paste by a coward. Snoopy says “We live in a self-entitled society where everyone thinks they should get what they want– including the president they want– and believes they can attack, malign, and slander those they disagree with and go without consequences and repercussions for those actions. This just ins’t true. The Bible says that people who insist on rejecting God in lifestyle or actions are stalked by God’s judgment.” Yes, we do! Trump and his cult of haters lead the way. I don’t hate Trump, I hate what he says and does. I hate that the church has been so easily fooled and I hate that my brothers and sisters in Christ have lost their salvation, because they blindly worship Trump and will go to hell if they do not change their heart. I don’t respect anything witches do, but wouldn’t it be just like the Devil to rally his dark forces to curse Trump to make him look like a martyr. I only revile Trump and feel sorry for those deceived by him. Once again, no one who stands with Trump has any moral standing.

          • Jenny Foster says:

            Pat Johnston, “Once again, no one who stands with Trump has any moral standing.” That’s in your (humble?) opinion. Many others like myself would beg to differ and would say that no one who stands with Clinton has any moral standing. It’s just a matter of opinion, it’s not God’s truth. It seems that the Clintons are clever deceivers, like the Obamas, who appeal to many and do not appear to be Satanists which is what an in-depth investigation proves them to be. Look up Pizzagate – nobody has made that up. Trump is no saint that’s for sure, but it’s even more sure that the Clintons and the Obamas aren’t either. The truth is, you don’t know the truth, you only believe that you do. You have been deceived and fallen into the trap of the Enemy who wants people to fight over democrats and republics, left and right, apparently right and wrong, while he is laughing at people’s stupidity. This is not what God’s Word says. The Bible is clear, “There is no one righteous, NO NOT ONE”,

          • Snoopy It Is says:

            Pat Johnston, you are like the Gadarene demoniac. You are so demonized that your words don’t make any sense. (Note: demonization isn’t a person’s fault. A person who isn’t demonized isn’t at fault for being demonized. However, demonization can cause several issues one of which is intense delusion such as we have in churches like Bethel in Redding, CA.) I won’t try to go over all the confusion you wrote, because it’s apparent that you can’t make sense of common sense itself not to mention truth. There are many pictures of Chelsea wearing an upside down cross. Why don’t you just say she doesn’t mean it against God and be done with it instead of saying that every single picture of her wearing an upside down cross was photoshopped.

            You hate Trump. There’s a difference in hating the wrong things a person does and hating the person. You hate Trump because your heart is not right. You mention accolades and mentions and forget that your value cannot increase in God’s eyes or in reality no matter how much ‘success’ you have. Your history and experiences don’t protect you from deception. You are under an incredibly strong delusion which can come on anyone but which only remains (perpetually) on those who reject the truth (ie. what God says) and receive the lie. The Bible tells you to pray for Trump, yet you reject that and instead call him names. You are so rebellious that you are beside yourself and cannot see it. When both Aaron and Miriam opposed Moses for marrying an Ethiopian, God only judged Miriam but not Aaron. There is only one real reason that God judged only Miriam when both her and Aaron were committing the same sin: “The Lord looks on the heart.” Aaron and Miriam both opposed Moses, however while Aaron did it out of ignorance, Miriam did it out of rebellion. There is only one other possible reason besides that: God loves men and hates women. And we know that isn’t true.

            Your heart isn’t right. Even in your writing it shows. A rebellious heart (Solomon calls it ‘a fool’) only has interest in expressing how it feels. It exposes itself with its mouth/speech, but because so many people are rebellious as well, the rebellious person doesn’t know that their rebellion is apparent to all (though most don’t understand what they are looking at). You don’t care if Trump wins the next ten elections, you will still rail against him. But the Bible says that ALL authority is instituted (not chosen but approved) by God. But you don’t care, and you want to make it Trump’s fault when it’s only yours. The more you rail against Trump, the more you prove that your heart is set against the Lord Himself and that you reject God and His Word. If you want to attempt to disprove this (and it is in your heart to do so because there is no change in you), then find one verse– just ONE– in the Bible that says that God’s people are to resist any type of leader, even wicked ones. Who are you deceiving. God has your number (and if you continue in this vein of rebellion and self-will and self-absorption, know for certain that you are marked out for God’s judgment; you will be alone and none of the people who believe as you do will be near to back or support you). But you don’t care. The rebellious aren’t smart enough to fear God; they only want to express their rebellion. But God will have His way with them when their times comes. #Trump2020. Do something to stop it.

      • Sarah says:

        Snoopy could you please provide links or proof about witches cursing Trump? I am very interested. It is definitely not out of the question, as, to my knowledge, Trump is against abortion. Clintons are certainly pro abortion. It is known that Hillary is a follower of that “How to Start a Revolution” book, which is dedicated to Lucifer, and the author was her fave prof (i forget his name). And Chelsea sent out a tweet last Christmas, greeting her “Satanist friends” (which should still be on Google). I have also seen a documentary exposing Hillary as threatening women who wanted to charge Bill with sex assault — but really I dont know if we can trust a lot of documentaries…
        Finally to say Bill just made a mistake — he lied in court. That is not a little thing.

        • Snoopy It Is says:

          Sarah, I’ll share some links on that matter later today as I have to take care of some things now. But it’s important to believe the Bible over your eyes or experiences. The Bible in the OT and NT talks about satan’s MO and the MO of satan’s servants, so if you just believe the Bible, then you know satan has servants who are doing satan’s will and do not need articles and obvious evidence to know that it is all happening.

          When I lived in Baltimore many years ago, there was a news report that said that for every roach you saw in your home, there were about 700 more in your walls. It seemed like an exaggeration, but I had some roaches in my home at the time and one night– after I set out a fogger– found that there was nothing exaggerated about that statistic. Dead roaches were everywhere. The occult and servants of satan– according to satan’s MO– are also like that: for every one instance of satanism that ever even reaches the light of exposure (which doesn’t mean it will be nationally exposed but has simply been reported), there are THOUSANDS and hundreds of thousands more instances of satanism that will never be exposed to the light of day. So, anyone who thinks they’re smart by demanding “Show me evidence of satanism” should be treated like a lunatic and locked away in a mental institution until/unless a clear mind returns to them. That’s like saying. “Summon a demon right here in public view of everyone out in the bright sunshiny day” and thinking that will happen once in 100,000,000 attempts. ‘Occult’ means “hidden”. satan keeps his people in line; they are to remain hidden at all times except for instances when they send out subliminal (ie. HIDDEN messages) to others.

          Here is a documentary that was to be released that implicated wealthy and trusted ‘good people’ as far as the White House and that was banned by wealthy and powerful people who wanted to keep the facts HIDDEN to the extent that the production team was paid $500,000 so that the documentary would not be aired: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DquLnRycZms. Anyone who demands evidence of what is hidden– whether that thing is God or molecules or satanists– should immediately be treated as a lunatic and totally disregarded and ignored. The person is a fool and is often unwilling to acknowledge evidence even when it is provided. Have nothing to do with such people. They’re only wasting your time.

  79. sarah hodgins says:

    Pat, you make it sound like there are only Christians in the US and the only God is concerned about is Trump! Where in the Bible does it say that God will test ANY Christians with ANY political leader? You know what it says? Pray for your leaders in government!!

    Where is the USA in the Bible? God is above politics, we are supposed to keep our eyes on heaven, and the antichrist is not necessarily American! I highly doubt that either Hillary or Donald are the antichrist, since the antichrist will be a man, mostly like Hebrewesque, and in Jerusalem at a time when there is a Jewish temple there (not happening too soon). There have been countless leaders (dictators) in the world since the first century who have done far more evil than these latest leaders. Let’s try not to be so concerned in this smoke screen and instead trust in God to deliver us.

    • Snoopy It Is says:

      If I hadn’t been a christian since at least 1986, I would have been beside myself reading Pat Johnston’s comments here. Unfortunately, I know something about christians that most christians haven’t figured out yet (sadly): christianity verifiably usually makes people TWICE worse than they were before they became christians. In 1998 when my best friend who was a new christian told me that he didn’t feel that the people in our church loved him, I immediately responded, “Of course they don’t love you. They’re christians; they don’t love anybody.” Sad day when you can say this and all the spirits, good and bad, in the heavens agree with you. This is what christianity is today. Where there is no love, the focus is always off.

      Jesus many times touched on the fact that ‘christianity’ usually makes people TWICE worse (in their hearts, not in their actions) than they previously were such as in the parable of the good Samaritan and also when He said to the christian ministers of His day: “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them TWICE as much a child of hell as you are” (Matt. 23:15).

      Before christianity, everyone is a ‘child of hell’; after christianity, most people become TWICE worse than they previously were. With my observations, I’d put the percentage of unsaved christians (ie. people who ‘follow’ Jesus as they want Him to be, not as He in fact is) in America at no less than 95% of christians in America. I later learned that Leonard Ravenhill, a man of God whose heart beat for the things on God’s heart, put the percentage of unsaved American christians at 97%. My estimate sounds better, but unfortunately, Ravenhill has been more places than I have, and I believe his estimate to be correct.

      I say all the above because the comments, especially from Pat Johnston, major 100% in fruitless talk, like trying to bring down a tree by using snippers to focus all cutting on its branches. You can’t bring down a tree by snipping at its branches; you must bring it down by cutting at the trunk or by uprooting it. The things on God’s heart are so much higher than who is president and who is the Anti-Christ. At the top of this page on the right is this verse: “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge” (Hosea 4:6). This truth cannot be overstated for modern christians, especially in America where christians– who tend to be the least intelligent people– think that they have all knowledge.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        I was born again at Calvary Chapel,when I was 17 in 1971. I was a street evangelist for 7 years in San Francisco. I was a Sunday School teacher, a member of the board for Aglow and studied powers and principalities at Bethel. If you are so into love, why do you support an evil, vindictive, President. You are right 80% of so-called Christians follow Trump or to say it like the Bible says a great falling away 2nd Thessolonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;. If Trump is the man of perdition, then the falling away has already happened and if you follow Trump, you are one of the fallen.

      • sarah hodgins says:

        Sadly most people are not actual Christians, and if they are saved, they will have a lot to answer for. But that brings me back to myself, I have enough to do trying to live like a Christian. It is sort of pointless to worry about the millions, except to pray and try to do what we can to convert them

      • sarah hodgins says:

        Snoopy, do you really believe Bible says that :ALL authority is instituted (not chosen but approved) by God”?
        That is exactly what the Nazis told the Germans. It also means that you would then have to approve of or support Bush, Obama and the Clintons. It says we are to pray for them. It doesn’t say we need to love them (except to love them like any other unsaved person who needs help)

        • Snoopy It Is says:

          Sarah Hodgins, the Bible says a lot of things that are… questionable. On the surface. It says God is the one who creates evil. It also says that God caused David to sin and then judged Isreal (but not David) for it. It plainly shows God telling Israel to kill whole nations, including innocent babies. Why? This goes to show that you are not supposed to depend on your own reasoning when you read the Bible but are to depend solely on the Holy Spirit (while employing your own reasoning but not depending on it) to reveal the truth to you. Jesus expressly says that the Holy Spirit will lead us into all truth. Why are we still trying to figure it out on our own?

          “Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same… you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing. Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor” (Rom.13:1-3, 5-7).

          On the surface, this clearly says that we are all to be subject to ALL authority because ALL authority is instituted by God (the passage is even clear that this is talking about secular authorities, not just church ones). This doesn’t make sense does it? This is why you are to read the entire Bible, not just parts of it, while depending on the Holy Spirit to reveal or explain it to you. In 1John 2, John said that no one needs to depend on human teachers since the Holy Spirit (the anointing) teaches you from the inside. This isn’t saying not to have teachers but to DEPEND on the Spirit so that you listen more to HIM than to those who teach you. This is why we have many teachers but few with God’s anointing on their teaching. The anointing (the Holy Spirit) EXPLAINS things and doesn’t just tell them. The Bible tells you; the Holy Spirit EXPLAINS what it is telling you:

          “The UNFOLDING (entrance) of Your words gives light; it gives understanding to the simple” (Psalm 119:130).

          Just reading God’s Word doesn’t guarantee you will understand it; the Holy Spirit must EXPLAIN (unfold) it so that it actually ‘enters’ into your heart or understanding. There is a difference between authority and power. They are totally different. The Bible doesn’t say to submit to the POWER of people but to their AUTHORITY. Humans teach each other to submit to people’s power while thinking they are submitting to authority; this always goes wrong such as when kids are taught to obey (submit to) their elders and then many adults take advantage of kids because of this. Power is a person’s will exercised towards or exerted over another.

          Authority is legal right to proceed (not to harm but to have first say). Yes, many people in positions of authority exercise their power and call it authority; but ALL authority is from God (as it’s an office) while not all power is from God. This is why the Bible says to “honor your father and mother in the Lord” even if they abuse you and want you dead. It is talking about their position which is from God, not from them. Their position (authority) is good, but the way they use their power may or may not be good. You are not to submit to power but to authority. Authority is so important that God and His angels respect lucifer and his angels and vice-versa. As hateful as lucifer is, he will not make one hateful move without authority to do so. Remember when lucifer appeared before God concerning Job? Remember when Jesus said to the apostles, “Simon, Simon, satan has ASKED for you [all] that he may sift you [all] as wheat. But I have prayed for you…” satan asked God for the authority (not power)– the right– to test the apostles. The fact that Jesus said He prayed for them implies that satan, upon asking, was permitted to test them which he did only because he had the authority to do so.

          “Let EVERY soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.” All authority is from God. But not power (the way those in or not in authority exert their power) is from God. In the same way, all wisdom leads to God; yet not all knowledge leads to God.

    • Pat Johnston says:

      If America and the “christian ” church is the whore of Babylon, then it will have the blood soul” of saints on her hands. Revelation 17: 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. 7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. On top of that all the parables about 1/2 being taken and 1/2 being left. Jesus is talking to the church when he says in Matthew 7: 21 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you ..On top of the scripture of separating the wheat from the chaff. Jesus is talking to the church, not sinners. What determines whether you get raptured or stay behind, the scripture clearly tells us the workers of lawlessness. Trump is the most lawless President America has ever had and people , who supposedly love Christ worship and follow him, no matter how evil and corrupt he is.Like Nancy Pelosi, my husband and I pray every day for our leaders trying to break the curse Satan has put on this country with his servant Trump. You are right we are not to look left or right, but keep our eyes on God. I am not supporting one party over the other, I keep my eyes on Jesus and the Word. You are right God has teasted many generations over the years with brutal dictators and political monsters. Many Christians supported Hitler, in the same way they do now with Trump. Those Christians turned their back, even in the face of mass murder. Satan has been trying to destroy the church, since day one and often the church is responsible for the evil that comes forth. This is exactly the same situation. The Devil has convinced you Trump is of the Lord, when he is of the Devil. His rotten fruit prove it,

      • Sarah says:

        For some reason I can only reply to some comments but not all. I am NOT just directing this to Pat. I have been atheist, agnostic, half Buddhist, a new age witch, and the 3 main types of Christian (catholic, orthodox and protestant baptist Presbyterian etc) and most Christians are indeed pretty pathetic, hateful hypocrites. Pat, I am not American, but believe me, most of the world has an opinion on American politicians. Trump is …bizarre.. at times and is in no way an angel. But compared to Hillary in particular, he is a saint but that is just MY OPINION. (Allcaps cuz I cannot bold). Do I like either one? Nope. To choose the lesser evil is sometimes all that can be done, tho perhaps it might be better to not vote and just pray for the leader. That is what I did this past election. God seems to leave politics up to us,and we are allowed to have our own opinions. PLEASE DON’T DAMN EACH OTHER BASED ON POLITICS!!!! it is not that important! Saving souls is important. Why someone votes for this or that is NONE OF OUR BUSINESS!!

      • sarah hodgins says:

        Well, let’s keep in mind that God used Cyrus and other political leaders in the past, some of whom believed in God, some didn’t, but it was to do His will. I doubt Cyrus was a wonderful, perfect man. He certainly wasn’t a Christian, or even a sort of proselyte Jew! God used him, but that does not mean he was perfect or saved or anything at all. It doesn’t prove anything except that God uses whom He will. There are many American Christians who seem to idolize Trump, but I wonder if this is because he promises things they want? Of course that’s what every politician does!!! I don’t know. No one on earth is perfect, and that includes Trump. About Hitler — many people supported him because he lied to them and gave them what they wanted. Really. not much different from any other leader. He just got away with horrific crimes — but not more than other leaders that people don’t seem to mind, like Stalin, who killed and exiled something like 30,000,000 or more people — but that is another topic….

      • sarah hodgins says:

        I don’t think the USA is the Whore of Babylon. People have been trying to figure this out for 2000 years and this is just the latest theory. Keeping in mind that the USA didn’t even exist until about 250 years ago, it seems a bit odd to claim this. Remember that people have been calling various popes, kings, and other leaders the “Antichrist” since the book of Revelation was written! Pat, there is no worry about destroying the Church. God will not allow it. Trump will come and go like all the others. I know it can be difficult to accept but there are Christians who are Republicans and Democrats, and everything else. Guess what — there were real Christians who were on the German side in WW2!! I have met some. They (deceased now) were lovely people who loved Jesus. Let’s maybe leave this stuff up to God to judge, and remember that we do not know everything that is going on. And Pat, if you are interested, there is a lot of information about the hidden agenda of the Luciferians. They run the world. But God will judge and punish them.

      • sarah hodgins says:

        Hi Pat, here is a link to a photo where it does appear that she is wearing an upside down cross, although it would help if it was a lot clearer: https://twitter.com/WasabiKimarie/status/1040682960809328640/photo/4

  80. Pat Johnston says:

    I understand better where you are coming from. I have tried for years to find a church where Jesus resides, before Trump. There was so much bigotry and hate coming from the pulpit. Turn to Jesus and the Word for your answers. Man and religion is not the answer. As times get more complicated and evil, everyone thinks they have the answer, but they don’t…I don’t. That is why I rely heavily on God’s Word to back me up. My opinion is not important. The Word of God is. When people make Jesus look bad by supporting an evil man who is bent on destroying America. It is my business.

    • Jenny Foster says:

      Pat Johnston, Please keep it real. America doesn’t need anyone to destroy it, it already set itself on a path of destruction a long time ago. So you are one of those who very foolishly believes that if it wasn’t for Trump, everything would be fine. That is not what the Bible says, and Christians are not supposed to make it up as they go along. Christians are supposed to keep to what the Bible says – you are not doing that.

      • sarah hodgins says:

        Jenny you are right. America, like all the other western nations have been, is going to be crippled and taken over by inside forces that really only God controls (allows). This was planned centuries (millennia?) ago and though certain leaders could possibly postpone it a bit…well it won’t work unfortunately…God is allowing the Luciferians to do what they want so He can work out His ultimate will, which He will do! The scariest thing I have seen lately is that Sweden is pushing the implanting of tiny microchip type things…in the hand.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        I’m sorry you are so mislead by conspiracy theories. The best thing I ever did, besides getting married, having my three children and finding the Lord. Going to college allowed me to think out of the box and break away from a family full of uneducated bigots Colleges are called liberal for one main reason, because to be liberal is to be open minded. To be conservative is to be close minded. How are you to learn the truth if your teachers are not open minded, like Liberty College. It teaches you how to be a Christian bigot Not good for anyone. Once again you use the word liberal and socialism is a bad thing, when your President is trying acting like a facist and communist dictator. Once again, you have no moral standing, as long as you stand with Trump. If Trump and the right can make people distrust the real media, then he can and has already brainwashed you enough to control you. If we can’t believe in our institutions, like the free press and FBI, America is doomed. Do you have a degree for graphic arts? My degree includes graphic arts and layout. I could easily Photoshop that meme and when their is no proper attribution, then it is fake news. It is like Snoopy it is, anyone can have a fake name, but it takes real courage to stand by your opinion, as a real person. Ir is so funny that you call the best in the media business fake, but take an unattributed, fake photo, as God’s truth.

      • Jenny Foster says:

        It’s sad how you are in denial that you are utterly obsessed with Trump and your hatred of him, and so you can’t see you are in disobedience to God.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        America has always been great, even though flawed. It is and always has been the best country for the last 200 years, until Trump took a major dump on its Constitution, rule of law and the American people. I believe God is testing the church with Trump and if the church rejects him, America will be saved. If they continue to support him, all will be lost. I believe the Devil has his plans to destroy the church using Trump and he has. Never before has the church been so disdained for being such hypocrites before Trump. The lack of growth, fruits and attendance proves the church is on the wrong track. The spirit of Jezebel is breaking out from Trump and being spread through the church, like wild fire.

        • Jenny Foster says:

          There is not one but a number of ways you are in disobedience. For a start, you are not Christ-centred, you are Trump-centred. The Bible is clear, if someone is a position of leadership it’s because God put them there or allowed them to be there. The Bible says to pray for your leaders, instead, you are hate campaigning against Trump. If God wants Trump in office, and you cannot possibly know the answer to that – you may even be working against God. It seems to me you think you know too much, and that you know a whole lot more than the Bible tells us which makes you prideful, which as you know is an abomination to God.

          • Snoopy It Is says:

            Yes, pray for leaders– not for them to prosper in wickedness or wrongdoing but for God to lead and guide and direct and bless them, because His blessings don’t promote or approve evil but are meant to lead to repentance and salvation. God blesses those who honor those in authority.

            I recently worked for someone in authority who could use a lot of help. The article on this page is about the Jezebel spirit, but there’s also an Ahab spirit or mindset. In America, women are raised in such a way as to be moderately to very open to the Jezebel spirit, and men are raised the same way regarding the Ahab spirit. The man I worked for had an Ahab mindset (a hatred for responsibilities, abdicating his authority to narcissistic people and Jezebels, extreme passivity, an almost non-existent moral compass and along with it an inability or refusal to stand up for any issue of justice– all the responsibilities that God gave men).

            Watching this man defend the wicked people and persecute the innocent (I told God in no uncertain terms that he was an idiot), I was starting to near my wits’ end– the mysterious place where the oceans fall off the flat earth’s edge. Then God told me to honor the man ONLY because he owned the business and therefore was an authority. (To honor includes a level of forgiveness. Just like we forgive the shortcomings of those we honor in the flesh for our sake, we are to forgive the shortcomings of those we honor in the spirit for God’s sake.) In time, God will deal with authorities who do evil or who refuse to repent. Our only part is to pray for God to bless them (ie. to influence in good ways and towards good) which isn’t a prayer for God to bless their wickedness, so we don’t have to fear that praying for a wicked person in authority will cause God to overlook and wink on their wickedness because God never does that. Praying for leaders (especially wicked ones) is for our sakes– as we stand before God– far more than it is for theirs.

    • sarah hodgins says:

      Here is her twitter feed to the church of satan…https://twitter.com/WasabiKimarie/status/1040682960809328640/photo/1
      I mean, sure maybe they photoshopped it but…she admitted to being friends with everyone (implying satanists) and did not retract this

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Adding to the issue of authority, there is so much to be said about it. I could go on forever about it. Watchman Nee’s ‘Spiritual Authority’ is all about this topic. Some people say that all sins are the same to God. Too simplistic. The Bible lists different kinds of sins: sin, trespass, transgression, iniquity, rebellion, wickedness, abomination, etc. No one is going to hell for sinning but for rebelling against God. Sinning isn’t rebellion in itself; REJECTING God (or rejecting Jesus as Savior and Lord, the sin which can’t be forgiven) is rebellion, and God hates it.

        As God sees it, if a man abuses his wife (and she puts up with it), it’s sin mostly on HIS part; but if a wife abuses her husband (and he puts up with it), it’s an abomination on BOTH their parts. If parents dominate their child, it’s sin; but if a child dominates his/her parents, it’s an abomination. When God told the Israelites to destroy entire nations, He was blotting out abominations and wickedness of the rebellious, not their sins. In that context He gave very strong warnings to Israel about worshiping other gods (an abomination, not just sin), mingling with those who worshiped other gods, and taking or receiving things that are dedicated to other gods.

        “You must burn up the images of [the other nations’] gods; do not covet the silver and gold that is on them or take it for yourselves, or you will be ensnared by it; for it is detestable [an abomination] to the LORD your God. And you must not bring any detestable (accursed. abominable) thing into your house, or you, like it, will be set apart for destruction. You are to utterly detest and abhor it, because it is set apart for destruction” (Deu. 7:25-26).

        People who resist authority that God instituted, even ungodly authorities, are putting themselves under God’s judgment. The Bible talks about ‘despising authorities’ and christians aren’t even allowed to ‘despise’ (ie. mock, deride, disdain, rail against) satan and the other fallen princes. They lost their positions in Heaven, yet they still retain their authority, so railing against them brings God’s judgment, because ALL authority is instituted by God. Michael, the chief prince of Israel, was not even allowed to revile satan. This is according to God’s structure of authority. In this passage, Jesus distinguishes authority from power (He doesn’t explain it; that is what the Holy Spirit was given for):

        “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and those who are great exercise authority over them. Yet it shall not be so among you; but whoever desires to become great among you, let him be your servant. And whoever desires to be first among you, let him be your slave— just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many” (Matt. 20:25-28).

        Paraphrase: “You all are Jews and know that the pagan Gentiles who are in positions of AUTHORITY exert their POWER over those they rule over… But not so with you.” So, people in positions of authority can lord their power over others, but their power is not their authority. Their authority comes from God; their power comes from their flesh. Again, Jesus told the apostles, “satan has asked for you [all] that he may sift you [all] as wheat.” satan had the power to destroy all those apostles for the next hundred million years, but he didn’t have the authority (the RIGHT) to do it. He had to ask God for that, because ALL authority comes from God. If Hillary Clinton was president and chose to publicly sacrifice children, christians are still not allowed to rail against her. Railing and accusation come from the flesh (and soul), not from the spirit.

        If something is bad, you acknowledge it, speak to others about it, and pray. But as soon as your own personal emotions get into it, then you are now in sin and even if you were against an enemy of God, resisting their authority (position, right) in your flesh will ‘force’ God to turn and be against you. This happened to Israel over and over when they thought they could get away with anything because they thought that God was on their side. But God, contrary to narcissistic, self-centered christianity, is only on God’s side. Everyone else, angels included, must then choose to be for or against Him because He won’t be for them unless they are for Him. It’s best to speak opinions about leaders but to never speak against them. God hates this a great deal and the fact is spread throughout the Bible. In our age of cheap Grace, we have forgotten that God is holy and in the end, only His opinions count.

        “And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, a Man (Jesus, the God of Israel) stood opposite him with His sword drawn in His hand. And Joshua went up to Him and said to Him, ‘Are You for us or for our adversaries?’ So the Man said, “NEITHER, but as the Commander of the army of the Lord (God the Father) I have now come.’ And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and worshiped, and said to Him, ‘What does my Lord say to His servant?’ Then the Commander of the Lord’s army said to Joshua, ‘Take your sandal off your feet, for the place where you stand is holy ground.’ And Joshua did so” (Joshua 5:13-15).

        • Sarah says:

          Thank you for interesting posts. It drives me nuts when people say that stealing a pen from the office is the same to God as murder. It is ridiculous!

          • Snoopy It Is says:

            Right. Stealing a pen from a store and armed robbery to get something you need can be counted under the same type of sin to God. Proverbs often distinguishes the different types of sin. In Proverbs 6, for example, it talks about the wicked, the abominable, and the sinner (the wicked and the abominable are similar but very different). For example, look at how God feels about the wicked (they won’t escape judgment), the abominable (like the angels who had sex with women, they’re already judged and just ‘waiting’), and the sinner (God pardons him, BUT man’s laws still apply to him):

            1.) The Wicked: “A worthless person, a wicked man, walks with a perverse mouth; he winks with his eyes, he shuffles his feet, he points with his fingers; perversity is in his heart, he devises evil continually, he SOWS DISCORD. Therefore his calamity shall come suddenly; suddenly he shall be broken without remedy.”

            2.) The Abominable: “These six things the Lord hates, yes, seven are an abomination to Him: a proud look, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that are swift in running to evil, a false witness who speaks lies, and one who SOWS DISCORD AMONG BRETHREN.”

            3.) The Sinner: “People do not despise a thief if he steals to satisfy himself when he is starving. Yet when he is found, he must restore sevenfold; he may have to give up all the substance of his house.”

            To God, obedience to Him outranks everything else. Thankfully, you don’t have to get it perfect to be saved, but the obedient are in a different class from everyone else who will be saved. (Check Hebrews 11 for reference.) The OT mentions many prophecies about Jesus, and the NT says several times that Jesus did such and so in order to FULFILL prophecy. But there was only one thing more important to Jesus than fulfilling prophecy; it was being obedient to God. The OT never prophesied that John the Baptist would baptize Jesus (as important as that was); yet look at Jesus’s first recorded words in the Bible (the NT): when He went to John to be baptized and John told Him that He should be baptizing him instead, Jesus responded, “Let it be so now, because IT IS BECOMING OF US to FULFILL all righteousness” (Matt. 3:15). They weren’t fulfilling any prophecy. Apparently, God told Jesus to go get baptizesd, but the Bible purposely doesn’t record it for us. However, Jesus told John that it was BECOMING of both He and John to “fulfill all righteousness”– ie. to obey God. Why was it becoming for them two in particular? Because Jesus was the Son of God and John was His messenger who was filled with the Holy Spirit in the womb. They truly desired to obey God because God was IN them working out that desire. We value the things that are in our hearts, so we naturally act on what we value. That’s what Jesus was saying here.

            Like Psalm 91, this passage represents Jesus first but also represents all who know that God desires our obedience to Him above all else and who therefore desire to be obedient to Him above all else: “Sacrifice and offering You did not desire; my ears You have opened. Burnt offering and sin offering You did not require. Then I said, ‘Behold, I come; in the scroll of the book it is written of me. I delight to do Your will, O my God, and YOUR LAW IS WITHIN MY HEART'” (Psalm 40:6-8).

          • Thank you for your excellent posts. Yes, God asks us for obedience, and that means we need to keep to what the Bible says. We are warned not to add to or take away from it, and make it up as we go along. The Bible certainly doesn’t definitely mention America or any of today’s politicians by name, so we can’t be sure. We know the devil is very good at deceiving people and we should always bear that in mind. We can be sure that we are out of line if we claim that we know the details of what is happening in these Last Days, when we don’t, we can only guess. We are told to pray for our leaders, not to rebel against them.

        • Sarah says:

          Snoopy, I agree that we must spend time in the whole Bible, not just the NT, and when I went thru the Bible (via audio) recently I was shocked to see how much God talks about obedience and about how much He hates idolatry more than other things.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Sarah, you are right God allows certain evil leaders to be put into leadership roles to test the church and bring sinners to salvation. As far as the memes you posted, they prove nothing except the person who did them were not very good at making them look real. As far as the person who posted, she has no standing as a journalist and other than her no real attribution. This is truly fake news, as no one has proven anything with real photos or statements.

        • sarah hodgins says:

          Pat, you said somewhere that you have a degree in communication from a US uninversity (or something related, like journalism). Although often education can be really important and useful for some subjects, in the light of the fact that pretty much 99% of all universities in the Western World are liberal/socialist and they are almost all completely owned and run by the Globalists, such a degree is basically useless to a Christian… if not actually harmful, if you are seeking for truth. It is not really an education most Christians would tend to go for. This causes me to doubt your arguments.

          The fact that you said earlier somewhere that you in the US have a “free and open media” (or something very similar) is absolutely ridiculous. NO ONE has a free media. Least of all YOU. It’s a fact that all the major media in the USA is owned by the same group of elites. The fact that you actually believe that the media is free to tell the truth shows that you are not living in reality and that you are not really open to learning the truth. (European news shows things about the US that people in the US have no clue about — so you know that your news is censored.)

          And that you called what I posted “memes”..????—those are not memes. They are just photos, some with descriptions…which you immediately shrug off as photoshopped and posted by some unreliable journalist. Have you ever used Photoshop? I am a graphic designer. It is NOT that easy to photoshop an image —especially of a person—- and have it look realistic, despite what many people say. And if you disallow those photos and videos, then you must disallow anything of or by Trump. You can’t have it both ways.

          It just seems that you just want to argue and argue. I am done, this is a waste of time and energy.

          • Snoopy It Is says:

            Pat Johnston will do nothing but waste your time and energy. A five-year-old, for the most part, can ascertain what is true or false. You shouldn’t trust (or believe) an adult who cannot.

          • Pat Johnston says:

            Snoopy: I did not realize you were five. No wonder you are so easily swayed by lies.

          • Snoopy It Is says:

            It’s too bad that you think derision affects me. It’s proof that you are currently in a state of damnation– the damnation reserved for the rebellious and those who hate God. I know you don’t understand anything spiritual, but I’ll share it because I know I like reading it (by the way, if you can tell me what this passage means, then I will know you have the Holy Spirit in you; but if you can’t tell me what it means, then you better commit every wicked act you can now, because judgment is waiting for you):

            “Now I, Paul, myself am pleading with you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ—who in presence am lowly among you, but being absent am bold toward you. But I beg you that when I am present I may not be bold with that confidence by which I intend to be bold against some, who think of us as if we walked according to the flesh” (2Cor. 10:1-2).

            You think that I’m like you– that I’m a carnal christian and that therefore you can say and do things to provoke me. But I can foretell how you will feel, what you will say, and what you will do before you do them, because you have chosen to reject God, and all who choose that think, feel, and act the same way. lucifer, more intelligent than any human being, is such a slave to wickedness (ie. rebellion against God for which he was cast out of Heaven) that even though he was told directly and heard throughout the Old Testament that Jesus would save mankind by dying on a cross– and even though lucifer used Peter to try to stop Jesus from going to the cross– lucifer, a slave to wickedness, had to do wickedness and kill Jesus. He didn’t want Jesus to take the keys of authority from him and knew that killing Jesus would do just that, yet he killed Jesus because the wicked must do wickedness though it brings damnation on them. Isn’t that nice.

            So, Pat Johnston, I am well ahead of you. I know how you feel, the thoughts in your heart about God, yourself, and others (pure self-centeredness and rebellion against God), and the things you will say and do. I know how you will try to provoke emotions and feelings and responses. And I can tell you all of these ahead of time and you, trying hard to disprove me, will still do them. You are a slave to wickedness (unrighteousness) and think you are free. You disdain and deride others but the disdain and condemnation are on you. And I can see it. So, consult with whoever you need to and try to find and choose words to try to provoke me. You don’t get it (the wicked never do); you really think everyone is like you just like satan when he told God that Job would curse God if God took away his position (like satan did). You are stuck– not nearly as intelligent as lucifer who also is stuck and is driven to do evil even after God, whom he hates, foretells it (look at all the prophecies satan is helping God to fulfill now), your obssessive-compulsive disorder to rebel and hate and slander and disdain is controlling you and will demand and require that you feel, think, and act in ways that are disdainful and self-serving. And you can’t escape it because you’ve chosen it. Jesus told Nicodemus that it’s only those who are led by the Spirit who cannot be predicted all the time (“the wind blows wherever it wishes… so is everyone who is born of the Spirit”); but those who live in the flesh can always be predicted to a T, and they might rail and rage, but they are bound by sin and are not free to live AS THEY PLEASE. In the end, bad people can only do evil; but good people can do good or bad. Bad people can be predicted, but good people can’t be. But you’re bragging about how predictable you are.

            If satan would have just left Jesus alone and not attacked Him through the religious leaders, Jesus would have lived to old age and would have had to die a natural death, therefore, no one would be saved. DID YOU KNOW THAT? But satan, like you, had an obssessive-compulsive disorder to do wrong, to harm and malign and accuse and attack and rebel. If he had self-control, the world that God so loved would not be saved. satan had to do himself in by killing Jesus. Told ahead of time that his deeds would exalt Jesus, satan went ahead and exalted Jesus– the LAST thing he wanted to do. He is still driven to do evil and in so doing, not only fulfilling the prophecies that his enemy God spoke but also making Jesus’s return sure. If satan would just hold off and stop causing evil and wars and all the things the Bible said would happen, then Jesus could not return because Jesus said, “These things must happen and then the end will come.” Who is doing “these things” that will bring the end at which time satan will sit on hot flames for all eternity? satan himself. He is a slave to wickedness; he cannot control himself. And neither can you. So tell me: why should I be affected by what you have to say when you are a Kamikaze pilot insisting on your own death and I rather prefer to live– when you are doing what is uncommon in seeking your own death and damnation when self-preservation is innate even in animals? Your heart is hard and your ears closed and you can’t understand any of these words, because to the rebellious (like Pharaoh), God doesn’t matter nor His words and commands. You say you have studied but you know nothing. I’m not impressed by your performance. But don’t stop. The wickedness in your heart will motivate and DRIVE you to respond with disdain. The laugh is on you. Let it be for you according to the prophecy: “Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy” (Revelation 22:11). Do not upset God’s order by having a change of heart. I’m counting on you.

          • Sarah says:

            Hi Snoopy, I enjoy your thoughtful posts. Just wondering if Jesus would not have died in natural old age but rather would have “failed” to die, what with his lack of sin? Also thank you for pointing out and reminding us how vindictiveness and obsession are satanic characteristics

          • Pat Johnston says:

            Snoopy I think it is so funny that Trump supporters get their outraged panties in a twist, when someone responds in kind. You inferred that I had the mental capacity of a five year old or that I lack spiritual understanding and I am a carnal Christian, whatever that means. I do not think you are like me. I think you are part of the fallen church, if you support Trump or obviously have you not actually read what I write. You just know how I am going to respond. Okay, so now you have the mind of God and can decipher what I am thinking, before I think it. A little problem with a God complex ?Trump christians are “driven to do evil even after God, whom he hates, foretells it (look at all the prophecies satan is helping God to fulfill now), your obssessive-compulsive disorder to rebel and hate and slander and disdain is controlling you and will demand and require that you feel, think, and act in ways that are disdainful and self-serving.” See how that works either way. Only I am not the person following the Devil Trump, you are, just like the Bible prophesied. I am not going to respond to the rest of your incoherent rant, except to say when Trump or his followers don’t have anything intelligent to say, they attack and babble incoherently, hoping to baffle with BS. Good luck convincing Jesus on Judgement Day that your excuses for supporting the man of lawlessness was good for the church, America and the world.

          • Snoopy It Is says:

            Pat Johnston, I support any office of authority no matter who occupies it. And I support Trump. You should join the witches who publicly curse Trump to get him out of office. Please don’t respond to me anymore. The Bible says not to argue with fools so let’s not argue with each other. #Trump2020. #TrumpJr2024-32. #IvankaTrump2032-2040. #CandaceOwens2040-2048. #EricTrump2048-2056. #TrumpFamilyUntilTheLordComes. > _ <

          • sarah hodgins says:

            I am still fascinated with this idea of witches cursing Trump…or anyone at all, for that matter. The whole so-called point of witchcraft is supposedly “whatever you do comes back to you, times 3” so they are actually cursing themselves threefold…and if it is true that they are really cursing him, that makes me wonder why. Is he saving too many babies from abortion? Or trying to help people keep their jobs or something? Not letting enough commies have their way?? It’s fascinating. Also ridiculous how witches believe they have so much power. Make them hold a metal cross in their hand and they will see how much power they have…Fools, …speaking of which, we better pray for those lost souls!!!

          • Snoopy It Is says:

            Sarah, thanks for reminding me. I forgot to give you a link to an article that talks about witches publicly cursing Trump. There have been many of them doing it and also calling for others to do it. Here is one article about it: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39090334

            The above article begins, “Most of Donald Trump’s opponents believe they will have to wait four more years to see him leave the White House. But America’s witches are more optimistic. At the stroke of midnight on Friday, followers of witchcraft across the US performed a mass spell designed to stop the president doing harm. A Facebook group devoted to the ritual has attracted over 10,500 likes, and coined the hashtag #magicresistance.”

            The Democrats were trying to do the same thing (ie. get Trump out of office before 2020). Witches never do God’s will. The OT was extremely harsh against all forms of occultism telling Israel, “You must not permit a witch to live.” Modern witches see it as just a belief, but it’s very high-level abomination to God. And if witches cursed Trump publicly (witches openly casting spells has never been seen in the U.S. as far as I recall) and Democrats became vessels to do what the witches wanted (ie. remove Trump from office), it only proves that satan wants Trump out of office. We can reasonably then conclude that God wants Trump in office. I have seen the enemy act up and come out of hiding only when something of great import was on the line. He never fails to stick to the same MO (ie. remain in hiding until someone poses him a threat just as he did with Jesus).

            You said you wonder why the witches are cursing Trump. I already said it above, and the Bible says it a lot. Ephesians 2:1-3 says, “[You Ephesians] were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.” “The prince of the power of the air” (the enemy and his hosts) works in people through “the course of this world” which means satan influences, manipulates, and controls people through their own social standards, cultural belief systems, and worldviews. (We see this happen even with the 12 apostles whose Jewish cultural lenses caused the enemy to be able to prevent them from taking the Gospel to the Gentiles since Jews believe(d), “God is God of the Jews only, not God of the Gentiles.”) “Sons of disobedience” are people who live for self/pleasure and not for God. satan has LEGAL RIGHTS to and in them, and he uses them, not because they serve him but because they have turned their backs on God: “No man can serve two masters.” You have to choose Jesus or self (in choosing self, you choose satan and give him legal right to affect, manipulate, control, and use you as a vessel to do even things you don’t agree with).

            You said witches think they have power. They don’t think; they do have it. They are assigned as plants in churches and christian communities. They preach, read the Bible, pray, rebuke satan, come against satan, and do all the things christians do within christian circles. Depending on their rank (and other variables) witches do have power. Their power is only canceled by Jesus’s power. When Jesus’s power isn’t available or in use, then the witches’ power is powerful indeed. After Israel defeated Jericho, they went against a less-powerful army and lost. They lost simply because one of the Israelites (Achan) had taken some things that were dedicated to other gods and therefore dedicated by God to destruction. Today, we would call those items ‘curses objects’. Israel lost in battle because ONE man had taken items that witches had cursed (so to speak). Also, read 2Kings 3. It’s a story in which God said that Israel would defeat Moab; but because Moab’s king sacrificed his son to his gods, Israel DIDN’T win because those gods fought against Israel. Read the story.

            There are different levels of witches and some are not powerful at all; but witchcraft itself is indeed powerful (for those who graduate past the first stage) and can and DOES affect christians. There are many stories such as the christian family who began to expereince poverty on their return from Mexico until, during a fast, the Lord exposed that the beggar figurines they bought as souvenirs were cursing their home with poverty. Another christian couple began experiencing marital infidelity on return from Japan until the Lord revealed through prayer that the Geisha hat (Japanese prostitute) they brought into their home from Japan as a souvenir was the problem. In every case, there was no healing until the witchcraft items were destroyed and thrown out. Witchcraft is so powerful that a witch doesn’t even have to curse you or be around or near you; you just have to buy one article that has been devoted to a god other than God. Once you open your heart to it (ie. receive or accept it; align your heart with it and see it as favorable), then the curse, like the gears of a new clock starting to turn, will begin to work against you.

            Don’t let anyone deceive you: what is true on the good side is true on the bad and vice versa; eg. “Two are better than one, because they have a good return for their labor” (Eccl. 9:12). If two witches stand against one christian, then by God’s own spiritual laws, the witches will usually win (Jesus sent apostles out two by two for a reason). In Matt. 10:41-42, Jesus said that whoever receives a righteous or good person will receive blessings that are on the person’s life; in the same way, if you open your heart or home to an occultist (it doesn’t matter if you don’t know or are ignorant), then you have allowed or given permission to the curses following the occultist to harm you. It’s like the tales of Dracula and vampires having to ask permission to enter a person’s home and harm them. There is some truth to the vampire and werewolf fables. Again, at the top right of this page is this: “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge” (Hosea 4:6). Who else destroys but satan; and if satan can’t destroy christians, then how can God say that? Learn to recognize the schemes of the enemy and to know his MO and how he in fact works.

          • sarah hodgins says:

            Hi Snoopy, it’s interesting what you say about witchcraft etc. Also that article was interesting – I didn’t know this before, so I do have to agree with you that perhaps God is using Trump somehow for good…anyway I am afraid of Hillary for her ties to the illuminati so I would prefer him over her. Anyway…I originally found this Truthinreality website thru the author’s former website, when I was trying to get free of Tarot cards (I had been studying them and using them and began to experience satanic repercussions — I was agnostic or something at the time). I have read most of Staci’s books and learned a lot, though sometimes I think she goes a bit far with tossing things out. But as she mentioned on her Occult Items page, you can’t be too sure sometimes!

            However, I am unsure about this “legal” idea of Satan getting control over Christians. And the whole idea of exorcism ministries. Doesn’t the power of Christ easily trump Satan’s? Yes, I understand that there is “witchcraft” power, and that high level witches can kill birds etc. However I think we are giving too much “value” to witches and to Satan. I think it’s a bit crazy that in order to be able to cast out demons from someone (or from our ourselves) we must know the name of every single demon and their alternate names and symbols etc etc etc. This can get really confusing and time consuming until a person is more obsessed with demons than with God, and we should be obsessed with Jesus, don’t you think?

            And like what if you live in a home and someone owns a dreamcatcher (for example) and they refuse to throw it out?; Or like a friend of mine, who foolishly went to a “healer” when she visited the Philippines and got sick, and then purchased crystals to try to help with healing and now repents of all this new age garbage, but literally cannot find all the crystals in order all to dispose of them? Will God curse that person because she cannot find them all to dispose of them? I don’t know, this gets quite confusing and weird.

          • Snoopy It Is says:

            I have to answer in two parts, first about Trump.

            God is using Trump. Just like every tool (from a toolbox or gardening or whatever it is for) is limited by the way it is made, so every human being is limited by the gifts and talents God has given them, by the iniquities and demonic and wounds they have incurred (from past generations, etc.), and by other variables. God uses each tool as He can, not necessarily as He wants. Jesus told the 12 apostles several times to preach to the Gentiles, and Peter even preached this on Pentecost; yet, they were tools who didn’t have room for the Gentiles. They barely had room for Grecian/Hellenistic Jews (Acts 6:1-7), had even less room for Samaritans, and had the least room for Gentiles. Jesus APPREHENDED Paul (He didn’t just call him as He had the 12 apostles) and sent him to the Gentiles, because Paul was a tool (VESSEL) fit for that purpose.

            God is using Trump for good as far as Trump is able to do. He’s the only president God spoke to me about independently of what others were saying (I don’t trust or listen to anyone who loves to TALK (prophesy) but hates to DO the Word). He told me on two different occasions that He had chosen Trump to be president; this was several days or weeks before Trump won the election. But the blessings that come through Trump will only drive compromised christians farther from God. God knows; it happened with Israel too. Christianity won’t become Christianity in America until there is a massive shaking that shakes everything loose but Christ.

            A shaking of the strength that America’s churches need to return to God will require a leader who is wicked (that means Trump must leave office, be removed, or be suddenly overtaken by satan). The hardness of heart in America is unprecedented. I can confidently say that man’s heart has never been as hardened against God at any time in history as it is now. I can say this because Sodom and Gomorrah seemed to be the worst place on earth… then many years later (because sin gives birth to death (or gets worse) OVER TIME), Jesus said in Matthew 11:20-24 to Israelite cities of His day that if His miracles they rejected were done in Sodom and other wicked cities of the past, those cities would have repented. Sin has gotten worse over time; it always does. So, while Trump brings prosperity to America– which is god to most people, christian and non– it will require a wicked president.

            God’s ways are multi-faceted and it MAY be that one of the reasons He ‘elected’ Trump to the presidency is that a wicked president will soon arise (maybe not immediately after Trump); if a wicked president, like Hillary, came into office without a good president being in office first (‘good president’ as in ‘more trustworthy than the average christian’), then Americans would shrug– like we did when Obama was president– and say, “Meh. It’s only human.” But if a good president sits in office before an evil president takes office, then people are far more likely to realize that they are in bondage (and have been in bondage) and to look for a way out. Something like that. So, thank God for Trump. There are many signs that he is definitely is God’s man of the hour (though most of the christians who follow him follow him out of selfish motives, not godly motives), one of those signs being the witches who PUBLICLY networked to overthrow him– because there are also occultists working behind the scenes to overthrow him, but witches publicly networking and also against a public figure, basically openly preaching a coup, is just unprecedented. Something different has happened in the spirit realm that threatens satan’s agenda. That is the only time he ‘comes out of hiding and makes an appearance in person’. Now, speaking of witches…

          • sarah hodgins says:

            Hi Snoopy, I read (well, listened) to the OT and was confused by that story about that Moabite king who sacrificed his son on the wall in 2 Kings 3. I don’t understand why that would cause Israel to lose the war — wouldn’t God punish the Moabites more? How did the Moabite “gods” fought against Israel?
            Also, aren’t we in a different “world” now because of grace? Doesn’t God forgive all sins such as witchcraft now?

          • Pat Johnston says:

            How and what did I confirm for you? Also, besides being involved in witchcraft, what is Snoopy and your spiritual story and do either of you have any degrees?

          • Pat Johnston says:

            When a Trump supporter can’t debate, they bail. So, you would have stood with Nero, while he fed Christians to the lions and Hitler, when he murdered 6 million Jews. Many Christians did support these evil men and now share a burning hell with them. Your Trump rant at the end shows how completely brainwashed you are. You are lucky though there will be plenty of Trumps and supporters thrown…” into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth” forever and ever.

          • Snoopy It Is says:

            Sarah, if satan had self-control and was not driven by the law of corruption (it’s what motivates wicked people like psychopaths and sociopaths and narcissists who can in no way restrain themselves from doing evil), Jesus would have died of old age. Jesus subjected Himself to the curse of the Fall of man which set death in motion. “It is appointed to all men to die.” Jesus’s body aged as a human being, therefore, it would have kept aging until death. Spirits don’t age, but Jesus came as a human being– as a baby who grew to childhood and then to teenhood and then to young adulthood and then to adulthood. He would grown to old age and would have died of old age eventually, just like all normal human beings. He left all His God power behind; He was subject to death by killing and therefore would have also been subject to death by old age.

            The more a person is under condemnation, the more the person does evil. satan is the best example of this. He’s facing a life sentence of a death that never ends. He has nothing to lose. But because he is condemned, in spite of the fact that he is BRILLIANT– “FULL of wisdom and perfect in beauty” as Ezekiel says– he is the primary vessel who will usher in Jesus’s return. It isn’t the Church, like the charismatic lunatics think. It is satan. It sounds like heresy but if you read ALL the prophecies in the OT and NT about the end of days, you will see that Jesus’s return and the end are predicated on the works of satan: kingdoms will rise and rule (not godly kingdoms); “nation will rise against nation”; there will be natural disasters; etc. There is no nation or people group in history that has ever been oppressed or enslaved with force (ie. the oppression was apparent and harsh) that has not broken free. satan knows that his harsh oppression will bring freedom to mankind; he doesn’t want that freedom; but he must be harsh and bring it about.

            satan is the one who is forwarding the Lord’s coming, not the Church. The Bible doesn’t blatantly say this, but it’s all through it. From the OT till now (especially then because they were not under Grace), God always judged or destroyed nations once the cup of wrath was filled (when their iniquities and wickedness reached the point that He had to do it). In Genesis 18, God came down to destroy the cities of the plain because their wickedness had ‘topped the cup’. But He told Abraham about it first, because Abraham was His friend (God won’t tell most people how He feels about things; judgment tends to come suddenly, not with forewarning). In Genesis 15, God again told Abraham, “Know certainly that your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and will serve them, and they will afflict them four hundred years… But in the fourth generation, they shall return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete.” Israel had to remain slaves in Egypt until the Amorites/Canaanites had ‘committed’ enough wickedness for God to legally destroy all of them.

            Because God works on this ‘iniquity/wickedness’ clause, satan often tries to force His judgment by causing individuals, families/generational lines, neighborhoods, towns, cities, regions, countries, and nations to sin enough to ‘fill the cup of wrath’ so that God then has to judge them. (However, God is not the One who judges most of the time; rather, the spiritual laws He set in motion act as judges; eg. He told Moses that the iniquity/guilt of parents pass on the coming generations, but this was a spiritual law, not a new law, because we saw that Abraham’s propensity to lie about his wife being his sister passed on to Isaac who then did the same thing.) satan, driven by his OCD to do evil, cannot help but be God’s slave to bring about Jesus’s return. He does this by fulfilling all the prophecies in the Bible. While at enmity with God and hating to obey God, satan is obeying God in fulfilling prophecy, because he is driven by his rebellion. The law of rebellion at work in satan is his master; satan himself is not the master that he seems to be.

            Solomon said about the wicked, “They do not sleep unless they have done evil; and their sleep is taken away unless they make someone fall” (Pro. 4:16). This doesn’t literally mean wicked people are obviously doing evil; it is talking about their NATURE. God is the only One who isn’t subject to any laws. Everyone else– angels and demons included– is governed by their nature (laws within them). That’s why the Bible says that the good should continue to do good and the wicked continue to do evil. It’s like saying, “Let a monkey remain a monkey and not turn into a human, and let a fish remain a fish and not turn into a bird” (contrary to evolution); it is approving each one’s nature, because before God, it is right that one should be motivated by his nature and not be in control over his nature. Only God is in control over His nature. No one else has control over their nature, because God DESIGNED everyone/everything in existence.

            Those who CHOOSE righteousness will be subject to (literally ‘at the mercy of’) laws of righteousness (even if they sin); and those who CHOOSE rebellion against God will be subject to laws of wickedness (even when they do good). This is where foreknowledge and predestination come in and why the Bible tells christians to examine and test themselves to see if they WILL be saved (it’s talking about future tense salvation, not past tense)– because without testing oneself, a christian cannot be sure whether they have really chosen salvation or damnation.

          • Pat Johnston says:

            You really like to hear yourself. Unfortunately, when people blather on with no real point, it is hard to read what they right. Be more specific and to the point to get whatever your message is about. So far, it appears, you Trump with unwavering, blind loyalty and so far have not shown why any Christian serves Jesus and America by doing so. If you don’t want to actually debate with me, block me. I like to debate, as it makes me work hard and seek the Word to disprove those lost Christians, as I try to bring an element of truth into their midst, as many false prophets try lie to you.

          • Pat Johnston says:

            Trump is definitely the most vindictive and obsessively power hungry President ever.

  81. Snoopy It Is says:

    No idea why you can’t reply directly to comments on here but this is a continuation of my last comment to Sarah Hodgins,

    Regarding “this ‘legal’ idea of satan getting control over christians,’ I’ll say this first: God is both complex and simple, therefore, everything He created is also both complex and simple (eg. rocks, animals, wind, air, water, humans, plants, outer space, and all immaterial things including spirits, molecules, truths, and ideas). The topic of spiritual laws governing both God’s and satan’s sides is FAR too vast. It is easiest understood if the Holy Spirit reveals it to you, because you can’t read enough books. “Most communication is nonverbal.” Verbal communication is the complex side of communication; nonverbal communication is the simple side. That’s why while babies don’t understand verbal communication but understand nonverbal communication. Babies only understand SIMPLE things, not complex. Therefore, the Bible says about the revelation of the Holy Spirit, “The UNFOLDING (explanation, entrance, shining forth, exposure, exposition, teaching) of Your words gives light; it gives understanding to the SIMPLE” (Psalm 119:130). In Christ, you don’t have to be a scholar; you can be a child– as long as you can hear from the Holy Spirit, you can easily be wiser than all the theologians in your country. Literally. (Psalm 119:98-100, Luke 2:41-52.) I will share only two passages with a brief explanation and then I see this will be too long so will finish responding about witchcraft in my next comment.

    1.) In 2Cor. 2:3-11, Paul tells the Church to receive a brother who had been cast out for a season due to continual sin. Paul advised to receive him back into the fold “lest satan should get an advantage over us; for we are not ignorant of his devices.” You can only take advantage of a weakness in a person. Paul states here that satan can triumph over or defeat christians. He can do this any time that we are “ignorant of his devices”. In this instance, the man would have been isolated, and his brethren would have turned their backs on him. Each of those alone is sufficient for satan to enter and defeat christians. You better believe it. (That’s why in America, where unity is a cussword, there is no real victory among christians.)

    2) In Acts 9:31-43, there were two different groups of believers who were in need of God’s miraculous power. They didn’t know how to access it, therefore satan was able to defeat them. Then Peter came along and reversed the effects of the Fall which satan implemented against those believers: Aeneas was healed, and Tabitha was raised from the dead. Those believers thought that Peter was special and therfore was able to do what he did. But Peter wasn’t special; he’d said, “Aeneas, JESUS the Christ heals you (not me)” and had prayed for God’s will before raising Tabitha. It was God’s will for Aeneas to be healed and Tabitha to not even die far before Peter came along; so what were the believers around these two missing? That’s the question that we all should seek God for.

    God said His people are DEFEATED because they lack knowledge (that means satan defeats christians when they lack knowledge). It’s not enough or acceptable for christians to propose and ponder, to theologize and theoreticize, to speculate and spectate. We can’t keep saying, “Doesn’t the Blood of Jesus cover me from all harm?” or “Psalm 91 says I am totally protected” or “Jesus said He gave us power to trample on the enemy.” We have to learn what that all MEANS so we can actually learn to use the tools Jesus has given us ACCESS to rather than supposing that satan is afraid of us simply because Jesus has ‘the tools’ to defeat him. We aren’t Jesus, and Jesus isn’t us. satan is afraid of Jesus and then of believers who “know their God”; he is not afraid of christians and has no need to be.

    • sarah hodgins says:

      Very interesting and I agree that we need to learn to be or do whatever St Peter was being/doing….letting the Lord live in us

    • Pat Johnston says:

      Since you support the Devil Trump, Jesus has turned his back on you. You have no spiritual leg to stand on, when you align yourself with pure evil. No amount of “spiritual” babbling and lies will correct that, only Christ’s forgiveness will. When you helped put the Devil in the White House, you rejected Christ.. Jesus 2020!

  82. Snoopy It Is says:

    Third response to Sarah Hodgins. This one is about what witches can and can’t do as well as a practical look at ‘legal rights’ and how they work.

    Witches can kill people and do fairly regularly (by spiritual means, I mean; they kill many people physically through rituals every day), and they don’t have to be high-level to do it. People who aren’t witches can bring about another person’s death by the power of their soul (check out Watchman Nee’s ‘The Latent Power of the Soul’), and when you combine human free agency with satan’s will, you might be surprised what occultists have been doing and getting away with. Jesus’s power is greater than satan’s, but satan’s power is still great, especially when comparing it to humans. Witches are more in touch with satan’s power than christians are with Jesus’s power. This is, foundationally, because we all are naturally inclined to carnality and satan gives his power to the carnal (carnality being a natural thing that you don’t have to work for) while God gives His power to the holy (holiness being an unnatural thing that you have to work for). Katy Perry wanted to be the next Amy Grant in the contemporary christian music industry but didn’t make it. She, by her own admission, then sold her soul to satan in order to make it in the secular music industry instead. satan gives you power faster if you follow your carnal nature; God gives you power only as you submit to Him, and submitting to God and ‘dying to your carnal nature’ is difficult: “Therefore, submit to God; [then] resist the devil,” James said. This explains the massive power working among occultists and the little power working among christians.

    As for ‘legal rights’, I’ve written longer than I meant to and won’t go far into that. But I advise you, if you want to learn the facts not the fables we’ve been fed through decades, that you should google some of the things I’m about to mention. Occultists can ‘bind’ a person in the spirit, rendering the person unable to function in the physical. Every spiritual principle works on both the good and the bad side; this includes ‘binding and loosing’. Occultists can bind a person’s finances (in the spirit) and no matter how hard they try and how qualified they are, the person will never have enough money to live comfortably. One of their favorite methods is called ‘caging’ (link to an article at bottom) in which they put something in a container spiritually and it affects the person’s whole life naturally. Here are two true stories to consider:

    1.) There was once a very attractive woman who couldn’t get or keep a boyfriend longer than about two weeks or less. She was a christian and after college was in her thirties and was not married. She found a pastor who received a word of knowledge from God: the woman’s granddad had ‘bound’ her marriage when she was a baby. He did it with good intentions, but it was still satanic power. Her granddad saw her at birth and told her dad, “She’s going to be very pretty and the boys won’t leave her alone. Let’s ‘bind’ her marriage (really, her sexuality or visibility to men) otherwise she’ll be pregnant before she leaves middle school. Then we’ll ‘loose’ it after she gets out of college and she can freely marry whoever.” The woman and her pastor went to her granddad’s home where her dad now lived. She told him what God revealed; he told her it was true and that he and her granddad had forgotten to ‘loose’ her after college. Under her granddad’s old bed was the jar they used to imprison her marriage. When they destroyed it and prayed, the woman met a man within a week and I think was married within two months.

    2.) There was a man who was fairly rich. He found a woman who was in need and took her in. They began to date and married. This woman then met another man who may have been richer. She left her husband for the second man. Her husband was ticked off, basically. “I saw her in need and took her in. I provided so much for her, but she left me for this other man?” So he went to consult with an occultist. His ex-wife only found this out after trying to get pregnant with her new husband over and over and nothing ever worked. She happened to see a pastor who was open enough to God to receive a word of knowledge on why she couldn’t get pregnant. God showed the pastor that the husband she left had seen an occultist and by ‘a binding spell’, the occultist bound her ability to bear children. It went like this: the occultist brought a large cauldron and performed incantations and then buried the cauldron underneath a standing tree (to make it extremely unlikely that it would be dug up and therefore the curse disturbed). The occultist with the woman’s ex-husband determined that every time the woman and her new husband had sex and he ejaculated (this is a true story), that the spirit or life of the semen would be transferred not into the woman but into that cauldron. The oath was something like this: “Until the day that his semen fills this cauldron, his semen will never go into her. She will never get pregnant until there is no more room in this cauldron.” Long story short, God led them to the tree, they dug up the cauldron, etc.

    You asked about living with people who have ‘accursed objects’ and not being able to find things, etc. None of this is complicated. Some of it is complex but God always starts with the simple things, because no matter how much we accomplish or think we know, we are all babies and are all very simple. I’ve written a lot but that’s because it’s easier to write than to get to the point since the point is difficult for many to understand. And here is the point: ANY mystery or puzzle or quandary or whatever can be solved by simply doing this: ASK GOD. “If ANY man lacks wisdom, let him ask of God who gives to liberally to ALL without finding fault, and it will be given to him” (James 1:5). Virtually every single word in that verse is loaded with meaning. God knows we don’t know. We often think we know, but God knows. That’s why His invitation– to ask and receive– to those who don’t know (which is all of us) is so gracious. The simple aspect here is literally, “If you don’t know, ask God and He WILL tell you.” The complex aspect is that you might have to ask through fasting or praying in tongues or praying with one or more people; ie. there might be a specific strategy to even ask. But the good news is that if you ‘ask and keep asking’, everything will be revealed step by step. Spiritual safety is about an intimate or close relationship with God (Psalm 91); it’s not something one has automatically by being a christian. The closer you are to God, the more you can hear Him. Then if someone brings something into your home or gives you something or has something where you live that is ‘cursed’ and that the enemy can use to harm you, God will tell you about it, and you will hear Him. From then on, you will only need to know what to do about it, and believe me, answers and solutions and resolution belong to God. He can solve ANY problem. Goodnight.

    Article on Spiritual Cages (you don’t have to do the prayers): https://www.evangelistjoshua.com/deliverance-spiritual-cage/

    • sarah hodgins says:

      “Witches are more in touch with satan’s power than christians are with Jesus’s power.” Yes i have heard of children who did spells “for fun” and killed an entire family. Maybe from Staci’s book. Scary stuff. And shameful that Christians have so little of the Lord’s power!!!

    • sarah hodgins says:

      Thank you Snoopy! I did think of that idea too, this evening: “why not ask God for help with this?” (e.g. to find the missing crystals of my friend, so she can dispose of them). Duh! I am slow.

      What you have said is spot on with everything else I have ever read about occult stuff and witchcraft. I was kind of hoping it was not true though, because …it’s rather discouraging….

      Also I was involved somewhat in the occult years ago, although I stuck with “positive” stuff so I never heard of this “caging” thing. But yes, those other things are all familiar things and sounds legit. I have read almost every book by Staci Spielman and she has some crazy stuff in those books. Also, I recently found a website that mentions a person who did research into satanism in the North or South Carolina area and wow is it scary stuff. Really sick nasty stuff. I didn’t know it was so much in North America — I thought this stuff was more like in Mexico or Asia etc. It’s stuff I would rather not know, just like Illuminati stuff…but it is real, unfortunately. And our buddy Pat just confirmed it more to me 😦

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Hey, Sarah, I got several replies from you and mashed them together to respond (in two comments) to make it less confusing for me because this platform doesn’t allow replies to some comments.

        Peter was able to heal Aeneas and resurrect Tabitha because he had faith in God. Luke 9 shows that Jesus gave His apostles authority and power to cast out demons and that sometime after that the same apostles couldn’t deliver the epileptic. In the Matthew account (Matt. 17), when the apostles ask why they– having received authority to deliver– could not deliver the epileptic, Jesus told them that the type of bondage they were dealing with required faith in God. There are different types of faith. You can have faith in many things that come from God or that are aspects of God (His promises, His Word, His attributes, etc.); then you can have faith in God Himself.

        The apostles had faith in the authority Jesus gave them; they finally met an instance of bondage when that kind of faith wouldn’t work. Their authority was fine; their relationship to God wasn’t. They needed to have faith in God, not in their spiritual authority, when they encountered the epileptic. Peter was able to heal Aeneas and resurrect Tabitha when the other believers could not because Peter had learned to have faith in God Himself (which is different from having faith in God’s promises or gifts or power, etc.) whereas those believers had not. (Peter’s relationship with God was close/intimate enough that he knew what God’s will was even when others did not. You recall that Jesus was like that while on earth when you see Him minister to certain situations that others thought were hopeless: eg. Lazarus, the dead 12-year-old girl, etc. Peter had become more like his Lord.)

        You have to ask God to give you insight into what happened in 2Kings 3. It’s a puzzle on the surface, but everything in the Bible has integrity and is true. In 2Samuel 24, we are told, “The anger of the Lord burned against Israel. He moved David against them, saying. ‘Go, number Israel and Judah.’” But in 1Chronicles 21, we are told, “satan stood up against Israel and moved David to number Israel.” If you read both passages, you see that they both record the exact same incident: David sinned in taking a census of Israel (although taking a census in itself is not a sin and is almost always a good thing), and God required judgment for it, asking David to choose from three different types of judgment. However, during the judgment, God stopped it before it was to end.

        Both 2Sam. 24 and 1Chron. 21 record the same incident but contradict each other. But God can’t contradict Himself. When you come across this kind of thing, your place is to ask God what is happening. On the surface, if one was to be brutally honest, the Bible is full of contradictions (eg. the different reports of Jesus’s resurrection and the different reports of the demonized Gadarene). But God WROTE the Bible that way on purpose a.) in order to hide His mysteries from the wicked and b.) in order to motivate the truly righteous to ‘search out’ His mysteries (because it brings one closer to God). That’s why christians who argue with atheists are in error. Atheists are right to attack the contradictions in the Bible; but they are wrong to say that God doesn’t have integrity. If christians don’t know how to defend the Bible, they should say only what they know and let God convict their hearers if He will. Only the Holy Spirit can line up everything in the Bible to have integrity. Without Him, there will always be contradictions and puzzles. What makes 2Kin. 3 more puzzling is the fact that God through Elisha– a faithful man whose words never fell to the ground– promised that Israel would win the battle against Moab and even provided a clear sign that they would… yet they didn’t win. This is where you are to ‘search it out’.

        There are different ‘levels’ of christians. People absent-mindedly say, “You are as close to God as you want to be.” Much of that is true. God hides many things and reveals them only to those who pursue ‘the knowledge of God’(ie. those who pursue God Himself): “It is the glory of God to conceal a matter and the glory of KINGS to search it out” (Proverbs 25:2); “The secret of the Lord is with THOSE WHO FEAR HIM, and to THEM He will reveal His covenant (secrets)” (Psalm 25:14); and Jesus said to God, “I thank You, Father, Lord of Heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things (intimate relationship with God) from the wise and the prudent and have revealed them to babes. Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight” (Matthew 11:25-26).

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Sarah, these replies look like they will be jumbled up but I hope you can make sense of them.

        As for children doing spells for fun and killing an entire family, witchcraft (a term I’ll use to cover all ‘satanic power’) will ‘enter’ or ‘land’ whenever it has an entrance (to enter) or legal ground (to land on). Proverbs 26:2 says, “Like a fluttering sparrow or a darting swallow, an undeserved curse does not come to rest.” Many christians think this means that christians can’t be cursed (ie. be subject to curses), but one of the puzzling things about the Bible is that many times it literally just repeats what everyone already knows. Why? Because it is true. The Bible majors on truth, not only on God’s direct or personal words (Ecclesiastes especially but also Job and Psalms are great examples of this): a bird can’t land if it has nothing to land on; we all know this. That is what Solomon is saying about a curse. It’s better to understand if it’s said (in paraphrase) ‘backwards’: “When there is nowhere to land, a bird (or curse) cannot land.” This says nothing at all about where a curse can or can’t land but simply that wherever a curse finds room, it will land. Without ongoing sanctification, both christian and non will have plenty of ground for the enemy to land on. However, God won’t let him land all the time even if there’s legal ground (otherwise, most of us would be dead), but that’s another subject.

        There are many prideful atheistic and agnostic people out there who brag about their disbelief in the demonic and the spirit realm. Pro. 26:3 says, “A whip for the horse, a bridle for the donkey, and a rod for the backs of fools.” In other words, relate to people and things where they are; fools don’t learn unless they are beaten (ie. HARMED), therefore, beat them. So what do I tell these prideful people who think their reality (really, their preference and hope) can trump the facts regarding the demonic? I tell them that since they are so sure that the demonic realm is all Hollywood and fake, they should save up a little money and invest in a Ouija board. (You don’t even need to get an actual one; you can draw it out yourself and it will still ‘work’.) I tell them to proceed to bring along one or more other ‘unbelieving friends’ and to play on their Ouija board.

        Why advise anyone to consult the Ouija? Because a.) they arrogantly disbelieve facts because they think they can hide from them, and b.) the Ouija board is the one instrument that everyone has access to that most quickly invites the presence of the demonic… and when the demonic comes through a Ouija board, it doesn’t do a whole lot of hiding. Atheists and agnostics would come in contact with the demonic they disbelieve in faster than they could say, “This isn’t gonna work.” So why advise someone to make contact with the occult when the Bible warns against it? Because fools only learn through personal or direct harm (they have to suffer before they give up their pride), and it’s better they suffer some pitchfork pokes right now and re-think their ignorance than that they die in ignorance and rebellion and suffer through a pitchfork party that never ends. So yes, tiny kids can send curses and if the curses have places to land, then they will land. So for those who deride the reality of the demonic and who ignore God, making contact with the demonic is far easier than making contact with God “though He is not far from each one of us, for in Him we live and move and have our being” (Acts 17:27-28). Amen.

        As for satanism in NC and SC, I was in Asheville, NC in the summer of 2018 and met two different people who told me that that city is the most satanic city in the U.S. (It isn’t. It’s the most satanic in maybe one aspect. Another city is most satanic in another aspect. Etc. Bellingham, WA is one of the U.S. towns that is owned by satanists, and satan likes that place a great deal.) One of the people in Asheville told me how FIFTEEN different christian churches attempted to take on the occultists in that area (Asheville, Black Mountain, etc.) and all fifteen churches were destroyed and marriages fell apart within them as well because the occultists COUNTERATTACKED. How is this possible? John Paul Jackson wrote a book called ‘Needless Casualties of War’. Jackson had a lot of errant teachings/beliefs, but you have to give credit where credit is due and he nailed it in this book, expounding on the way christians can and do suffer needlessly (usually not even aware when this happens) when they take on the enemy presumptuously rather than with God’s leading. I’d recommend the book to anyone who needs a foundational understanding of the ‘rules of engagement’ regarding spiritual warfare, especially when it has to do with the princes, rulers, and territorial spirits in the heavenly places. You can read several pages free here: https://www.amazon.com/Needless-Casualties-John-Paul-Jackson-ebook/dp/B008WVIKFQ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=needless+casualties+of+war&qid=1582085867&sr=8-1

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        I forgot to add this video that I saw some time ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x3dZYuFopY

        One of the clips toward the end (when the guy goes in the bathroom then screams) may have been faked, but the rest of the clips are real. Major warning if you’re going to watch this.

        A close friend of mine drew a Ouija board with some of her friends in middle school. The first time they played on it, the paranomal activity began immediately; it always does but isn’t always visible. For her and her friends, it was visible. One of the things that happened was that blood began to run down the clock on the wall. (Since that time, she has had clock and watch problems, electrical and otherwise.) Other kids saw it and many kids who had to go to that classroom (because of the changing of periods/classes) began to have demonic visitations. It got bad enough for my friend to go to the school counselor and admit she was one of the people who started it.

        The Ouija board is the immediate cure for Western skepticism about the demonic and the paranormal. Whoever invented it must have received clear directions from the demonic realm. It’s an immediate open door for the demonic and is so effective that one doesn’t even have to get a factory-made Ouija board but can draw or make one themselves or even use a Ouija board app. All the enemy needs is an open door and the Ouija opens doors immediately.

        That all said, some christians are overly-focused on the demonic while others exaggerate that we are to “focus only on Christ”. The Bible, on the other hand, says that we are to FOCUS on Christ (firstly) but yet be AWARE of the enemy’s devices and modus operandi (secondly). When you drive from place to place, you only focus on where you’re going or your destination, but you also remain aware of everything else around you for the purpose of your safety. Jesus is the focus and destination, and satan is those things around you that you remain aware of. Just like our natural eyes have panoramic vision, rather than tunnel vision, we are to spiritually have panoramic awareness as well. Goodnight.

        • Sarah says:

          Hi Snoopy, I was without a proper computer for a couple of days so I couldn’t read and respond very well. Yes I avoid ouija boards — they are extremely evil and dangerous and I won’t even watch the videos because it will likely cause me nightmares. The reason Staci got in trouble was because she played with one of those when she was a child. Many decades of horrific demon harrassment followed.

          I will read and respond more soon.

    • Pat Johnston says:

      Interesting, you are so worried about witches, when there is a Devil in the White House, which you apparently support. I have a few questions for both of you. Are you saved? Do you support Trump and why? Do you believe in the rapture? Who do you think is left behind, in the parables, if not part of the church? What part of the church represents the great falling away and why?

      • Jenny Foster says:

        There are devils everywhere but as you have an obsession with Donald Trump, you are not interested in them. The devil it seems has your undivided attention so there is no room for God or for Jesus.

        • Pat Johnston says:

          Your right with the election of Trump, demonic spirits are everywhere, especially in those who support him and help carry out his demonic plans by their undying support of the man of lawlessness. The last part of your statement is ridiculous ,as I have lifted Jesus and scripture up throughout our conversation to support the teaching of Trump being the man of lawlessness and the church that supports him is the fallen church, who Christ will reject, if they don’t reject Trump. Right no, God is trying to break through to His deceived church, as I do out of love for them. If I didn’t care about the demise of the church and Jesus under Trump, I wouldn’t be talking to any of you, but God gave me an opening and I’m here to minister truth and life, not darkness and ignorance.

  83. Pat Johnston says:

    Jennifer, exactly how am I being disobedient to God?

  84. Snoopy It Is says:

    People from all sides are uniting to Trump. I think we can be so used to seeing corruption flourish that we can forget that many average people would choose good if they actually had a real opportunity.

    When I was in Grand Rapids, MI for a while in 2013, I learned about the wealthy Grand Rapids families: Van Andels, Devosses, Fords (motor company), Meijers (grocery stores). I learned that there are many wealthy people who would give to God’s work if they found a work or ministry they could really trust– ie. if God moved them to give. (When people are doing God’s work God’s way, He moves others to give to it.) And this is mostly non-christians. You see this principle in Acts when non-christians joined in giving to the early Church because the early Church was full of God’s Grace and favor as they were doing what God wanted them to do. So, sometimes people won’t do what is good because there isn’t any real opportunity to do so. I believe that there are many people consciously and unconsciously looking for something real, good, and true to give to or join and that as of yet, they haven’t found it. I also believe that Trump’s presense in office is giving many people an opportunity to do good. I believe their favorable disposition toward Trump is because they respect his integrity as a person, not because they have been deceived by a charming personality.

    • Pat Johnston says:

      I live in California. Most of the State hates Trump and sees him as the illegitimate and corrupt leader of our country. He has done nothing to help us and a lot to try to destroy us. There may be some rich Republicans in the South and some ignorant booger eaters in the North that support him. He has done nothing, but ruin farming, spit on our fires, destroy our forests, oceans and pollute our air. He disregards our State rules, goals and legislature. Betsy Devos! A Christian! You mean an unqualified woman, who bought her job with her millions. She, who undermines our public school system and cares nothing for poor kids. Trump and Devos is your idea of integrity and doing good. There is NO integrity or goodness in either of them and this is where Trump has deceived you and half the country mentally. It is so astonishing people can be so gullible, even when it hurts them and their country in the long run. WOW! Unbelievable people really believe this in spite of the cruelty and disgusting human misbehavior he shows every day. Would you like it if your children behaved like Trump? Grabbing women’s pussies, having an affair with a huge breasted pron star, while having an affair with a Playboy Bunny, while Melania was pregnant. Then, paid both woman off to silence them. Your idea of integrity and goodness is sick and twisted.

      • Jenny Foster says:

        You really do have a war going on in your own head. No one on this thread has said that Trump is a model for integrity or anything of the sort. At least he is not an out and out satanist like the people you so admire, the Clintons and Obamas. Why do you think he said he was going to clean up the White House? That is why the witches are working against him and you need to ask yourself how it happened that you found yourself working against the same person they are working against. Common sense would tell you that you have made a mistake, but sadly due to your blindness you won’t be able to see that. At least you should stop attempting to lead others into the ditch with you.

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Pat Johnson, why don’t we talk about the Jezebel spirit that the article on this page is talking about? I’d like to talk about the Jezebel spirit as it functions among christians rather than changing the focus of the purpose of this conversation. Let’s do that. Your heart is so vicious that you think you harm decent people by slandering Trump. All narcissists and Jezebels love to slander, malign, and accuse and think they win by hating. Let’s talk about the Jezebel spirit as a worldwide and churchwide issue. Let’s talk about issues that glorify God– “whatsoeve things are of good report” as Paul says. Normal people don’t brag about hating and don’t care to hate. Hatred truly is a sign of weakness (of a person who is miserable and unable to be happy or content); hatred is not a sign of strength.

  85. Pat Johnston says:

    Jennifer, Unlike you, I worship Jesus, not Trump. My husband and I pray for Trump and his destructive and corrupt spirit every morning. Unlike you, we pray for those mislead by the Devil and ask God to redeem our country from the cancer of Trump. God does give us the leaders we deserve and half of America deserved and wanted Trump, no matter how immoral and corrupt he is. Did the Christians support Nero or did decent Christians support Hitler? The fake ones did. Just like Trump, fake Christians, who are really bigots in disguise loved it when a white supremacists Nazi loving Trump took office. Is that God’s will or has he allowed Satan to test the church. The Bible is clear. I am proud of who I am and what I know. Proud about my life long accomplishments, I couldn’t have a achieved without Jesus. I am proud of following the Bible and not man. In a day, when everyone is under pressure to fit in or be rebuked, I am proud to stand strong against peer pressure and fitting in. There is nothing wrong of being proud of who you are. Being proud of your power and abusing it because you are so prideful is definitely a sin that Trump commits everyday. Especially when he destroys our United States, great public servants that tell the truth, while pardoning 11 of his corrupt criminal buddies. If being proud is so bad, why do you support the most prideful person on the earth? Once again, you have NO moral standing, as long as you stand with Trump.

    • Jenny Foster says:

      Pride is an abomination to God. You are so out of line with the Bible and with Christianity and so hardheaded about it, there is no point in talking to you, it’s just like feeding trolls, a waste of time. Devils have the power to blind people before they lead them down the wrong road, and that is what has happened to you. You certainly should not be trying to rope people in to walk along that road with you. You need to repent of your rebellion to God and if you can’t see it, then you can only pray to ask God to show you where you have gone wrong. Then again that requires humility which you seem to be sorely lacking.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Are you proud to be American? Are you proud to know your Savior? Are you proud of you and your children’s accomplishments. Pride, like many things in life is a two-edged sword. You can be good proud, like you are of your children or bad proud, like what Trump demonstrates hour to hour. Name calling is another way to be bad proud. You think you are a better person than me, because you support Trump. Like Trump and most insecure people with no real facts to back them up, they call people names for lack of a substantive answer or when faced with the truth. Trying to bully people obviously works on some weak, cowardly Republicans in Congress, but not on me.. Name calling tells more about you, than me.

      • Sarah says:

        Well said.

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        I’m trying to respond to Jenny Foster and it’s only giving me an option of responding to Sarah. Anyway, this response is for Jenny Foster.

        Jenny, you wrote in response to Pat: “Why do you think he said he was going to clean up the White House? That is why the witches are working against him and you need to ask yourself how it happened that you found yourself working against the same person they are working against.”

        It’s interesting that birds of a feather flock together. Trump wouldn’t be interested in cleaning out corruption if he was corrupt himself. satan doesn’t oppose satan. At this point, Pat is basically channeling evil spirits. To be honest, not nice. Niceness isn’t one of the fruits of the Spirit. It isn’t possible for a human being by himself (in his own carnal nature) to hate someone he doesn’t know with hostility and conviction. That requires the intervention of dark forces.

        When I was in Bellingham, WA, I met a christian who had many problems. He was suffering but didn’t seem to want to repent and turn away from the demons who were tormenting him. When I asked God why he as a christian was so tormented and why the enemy seemed to be able to whip him around at will (I should have known the answer as this enemy requires the cooperation of one’s free will to have a lot of control over them). God showed me that the christian’s heart wasn’t right and that he had rejected God and embraced certain works of the enemy that bolstered his self-esteem.

        Since this christian had rejected God in his heart, his demonic torment was greater than that of a christian who hasn’t rejected God. Moreover, the enemy controlled him almost at will because he was in agreement with the enemy. Pat, being in agreement with the enemy, is starting to say more and more things that sound like demons speaking through her (ie. ‘moving’ her to speak). Or maybe it’s always been that way and I’m only now starting to pick it up as was my experience with the christian in Bellingham who, on first meeting I saw him crawling with ‘New Age spirits’ (ie. the spirits posing as Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit in many charismatic circles), then AS WE TALKED about the Bible in particular, Witchcraft was forced to surface, and as we talked further (the guy protested that we stop talking about the Bible), then Jezebel was forced to surface as head of the bunch. Maybe you’re wasting your time trying to reason with Pat as I did trying to reason with that christian in Bellingham.

  86. Pat Johnston says:

    Snoopy: Trump’s heart is “so vicious that he harms decent people by slandering any that stand in their way. All narcissists and Jezebels love to slander, malign, and accuse and think they win by hating.” Trump and his cult of Jezebels are winning. Daily, Trump destroys America, Christianity and the world. You are saying I am like Trump, but Trump and his cult can do these things and I can not defend the Word and what Christ has said about the fallen church without being maligned fro acting, like the person you worship. Makes no sense. Tell me please ho Trump or you supporting President pervert is in “good report”. Rev. 2: 20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21 ‘I gave her time to repent, and she does not want to repent of her immorality. Just because Jezebel was a woman doesn’t mean she has a gender as a demon. We have see her at work in the church rising her ugly head with adulterous pastors, pedophile priests and supporting a pervert President. She has destroyed our modern day prophets, when she convinced our Godly men to sell their soul and those that follow them to the biggest Jezebel the Devil Trump, who encompasses all evil. At the end God gives those possessed of the spirit time to repent from her immorality. The church needs to repent and reject Trump to be saved again. Since witches are known for, like Roger Stone, as dirty tricksters, wouldn’t it make sense that they would lie and deceive Christians by pretending to hate Trump. My rhetoric is no more hateful than anyone on this page. Obviously, we all feel strongly about our positions, but none of us had been hateful. Attacking each other personally, takes away from the biggest problem…the church supporting the man of lawlessness. I never made the connection between Trump and Jezebel, until you brought it up. Thanks!

  87. Pat Johnston says:

    Snoopy! Do you not watch the news at all. Trump is not cleaning up corruption, he’s dumping crap in his swamp and unqualified, corrupt crocodiles in chewing up our Constitution and Democracy in one big gulp. Did you watch any of the impeachment, hearings on Russia? Did you know that this week he fired the NSI director for doing his job and telling Congress our enemy Russia and Trump’s best bud is interfering in our elections again! Everyday, he violates his oath several times a day, along with telling over 16,000 lies in 3 years. I don’t support the Devil Trump, so my soul is just fine. You and those that blindly follow the Devil Trump are the ones that has allowed his demonic spirits into their souls, replacing their love of God, with their worship of Trump, as shown in your insane crazy hashtags of Trump’s forever. If you and the church don’t repent, you will spend eternity with the Trump, where their will be weeping and gnashing of teeth forever and those that chose Jesus will be with him in the air.

    • Snoopy It Is says:

      Pat, I grew up with a Jezebel who unwittingly taught me how to recognize evil, manipulation, control, and other such negative character qualities when I see them. You will never learn and truly are wasting your time, and this will be the last time I read or respond to your comments. Goodbye.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        When a Trump cultist can’t argue with facts, they run and hide. Good talking to you. Good bye.

  88. Jenny Foster says:

    Clearly Pat Johnston you are completely obsessed and one might as well go bang one’s head against a brick wall as try to get through to you that you have lost your way.

    • Pat Johnston says:

      I am not the one blindly following the man of lawlessness and 100% comfortable with what the Lord has showed me in his word. I follow Jesus, not Trump. I am on the narrow hard path, not the wide easy path. You will get a chance to redeem yourself by rejecting the Devil Trump and turning to Jesus. Revelation 12:17 (“And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ”). Trump’s worshipers are part of the fallen church. 2 Thessolonians 2:1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of [a]Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of [b]sin is revealed, the son of perdition. Obviously, Trump is the son of perdition and the man of lawlessness. The 80% of Christians that marked their ballot for him is the fallen church. My mind is not shaken, nor my faith. I stand on the Word of God. Can you do the same and support Trump through God’s Word.

      • Sarah says:

        Your opinion and beliefs are very clear. Please, please stop arguing about politics, everyone. Please.

        • Pat Johnston says:

          Jesus would argue with you on that point. He argues with the Pharisees, but you could put the fallen Laodecian church instead and it would totally fit. 13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. [14] 15 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.16 “Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gold of the temple is bound by that oath.’ 17 You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18 You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gift on the altar is bound by that oath.’ 19 You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20 Therefore, anyone who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21 And anyone who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22 And anyone who swears by heaven swears by God’s throne and by the one who sits on it. 23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel. 25 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.27 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.29 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30 And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started! 33 “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34 Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35 And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36 Truly I tell you, all this will come on this generation.37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. 38 Look, your house is left to you desolate. 39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’[c]” Okay enough arguing politics Jesus, it makes Sarah very uncomfortable, but Jesus responded but “The truth will set you free”. Someone has to free my church from the grips of the Devil Trump. Getting people to listen to the truth is never easy. No one is forcing you to listen Sarah, but I’m glad you are still paying attention.

          • Jenny Foster says:

            There are many antichrists but Trump cannot possibly be the antichrist. You may not want to believe this but it’s a well known fact that the Bible is centred on Israel and Jerusalem, etc. not on the USA and their presidents. Sadly, there are those who wrest scripture to their own destruction.

      • The suggestion that Donald Trump is the antichrist is ludicrous. That shows a grievous lack of understanding of what the Bible says.

        • Pat Johnston says:

          Can you show me how I am wrong and lack understanding of what the Bible says. If you read my posts, you know that every claim I make is backed by scripture, the fallen church apparently wants to ignore. First, the Devil Trump has proven himself to be completely lawless, with the heart of an evil bully and a pervert of people and justice. As the “leader” of the free world with tendencies towards fascism, extreme power and a controlling demonic presence in every action he takes, he can easily slip into the position of the anti-christ. He and his worshipers fulfill this prophecy in 2 Timothy 3: 1But understand this: In the last days terrible times will come. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, without love of good,…Who is Christ rejecting if not those in the church that follow the man of lawlessness in Matthew 3:21 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you …These are the same that missed the rapture, because they marked their heart and ballot with Trump, whose family owns 666 5th Avenue. There was a great falling away when 80% of the church was deceived by Trump and caused the great fallen church in 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 – Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;. Perdition,” means “of destruction” or “of ruin,” so “the son of perdition” means the son of destruction or ruin. Trump fulfills the son of perdition with his destructive, ruinous ways and lawlessness. Mark 13:22 – For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if [it were] possible, even the elect.Trump has conned the elect of the church. Trump and his cult say Trump is chosen, but the Bible warns us in Matthew 24:5 – For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. Okay, your turn, give me 5 scriptures to support Christians supporting Trump is of the Lord.

          • Jenny Foster says:

            So you believe Trump is the most evil leader in the world? And what about the Chinese president or the North Korean leadership? You must be insane if you believe the Bible talks about US presidents. Do you understand that the Bible says there is no one righteous, NO NOT ONE? It is pointless to try and convince you that you are wrong, because I’m sure if God himself told you you were wrong you would begin to try to convince him that he was wrong and you were right. What you teach is not the doctrine of Christ, it’s not the words of the Bible as led by the Holy Spirit but a gross distortion. Please do not address any more of this nonsense to me.

          • Pat Johnston says:

            Yes and the most powerful. A standing both leaders of China and North Korea don’t have crippled by the communist dictators. I always back what I say with scriptures and if you don’t want to communicate with me, than stop. I don’t control what you do and say, unlike Trump. I do think it is so funny that all three of you have told me good bye, yet they still respond. I have to think, it is the Holy Spirit that keeps you engaged. Most end times scholars agree the anti-christ will come from Germany and Trump’s family is from Germany. God speaks in parables. It is up to us to study scripture to better understand what God means. Please share scripture showing God supports actions and men like Trump are what God wants for the church and America.

  89. Snoopy It Is says:

    I just re-read the original article on this page about the Jezebel spirit since it is such an important issue. It’s important to bring the conversation back to the issue of the Jezebel spirit. I have seen two Jezebels last month trying to change a conversation about the Jezebel spirit to anything but that, even trying to bring the religious spirit into the conversation because discussion of the Jezebel spirit was spiritually like driving a knife into their hearts.

    In my opinion, the worst part of dealing with a Jezebel spirit is the union it has with the human soul. When one of my aunts, a Jezebel, used to attack me without end, my best friend kept reminding me that “we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers…” While Jezebel is a principality (and, really, an entourage of spirits), there is a very strong human aspect when it comes to the Jezebel spirit. It is the most multi-faceted spirit there is– that I know of– and therefore is easily able to mirror the human soul which is also multi-faceted.

    It’s fairly easy for me to recognize (ie. discern) when I meet a Jezebel or narcissist because they hate me with a very special and unique hatred. On my first day of one job I had, two homosexual men approached me and swore to have me fired. For the next three months, these two men contracted all the corrupt people in the company to bring me before the board at least once every single week, falsely accusing me to get me fired. It didn’t work. By my seventh month there, the two homosexual men and all the corrupt employees who had sided with them had either been fired or had experienced some kind of harm that landed them in the hospital (eg. one corrupt employee had his jaw broken by drug dealers near his neighborhood).

    Jezebels are so wicked that they can spot any little bit of light when they see it. Unfortunately, as it is with human and animals predators, Jezebels detect good or innocent or pure or decent people faster than those people can detect Jezebels which always gives them a sort of edge. In the company I mentioned above, the Jezebel spirit had authority there– and therefore functioned primarily through the homosexual men– because the woman who owned the company was a Jezebel herself. (However, God used her to stand up for me and not fire me through the months when the ‘lesser Jezebels’, the homosexual men, made all kinds of false accusations against me to have me fired.)

    I believe that it is the human component that makes the Jezebel spirit such a force in the world and not simply the power that the spirit has in itself. I can say this partially because there are spirits that, by themselves (without human agency, cooperation, and agreement), are far more powerful than Jezebel but wh are not as infamous or troublesome in the everyday life of the average person. Some of these greater spirits are Occult principalities and Religion (the religious spirit is far more powerful than Jezebel; Jezebel didn’t show her face around Jesus because she recognized His authority, but Religion harassed Jesus constantly and finally killed Him).

    As seen in the example of Elijah and Elisha vs. King Jehu, the prophetic ministry is equipped to contend against Jezebel but rarely is given the authority to directly confront or to defeat her. The apostolic ministry is given the authority to defeat Jezebel but not to defeat Religion. Jezebel contends against true prophets; and Religion contends against true apostles. We see this with John the Baptist (prophetic ministry) whom Herodias (a Jezebel) killed with the help of Herod; but when Jesus (apostolic ministry) stepped on the scene, you don’t hear about Herodias again though you hear of Herod. Jezebel killed John the Baptist but couldn’t come near Jesus; but Religion could go near Jesus. Only once in the Bible was a demon cast out of someone WITHOUT the person’s free will agreement (ie. the person wanted to keep the demon, not have it cast out) and it was in the case of the servant girl with the spirit of divination which we later learn in the same passage was the Jezebel spirit, being directly linked to “Diana of the Ephesians”– ‘the Queen of Heaven’ or Jezebel (Acts 19).

    An apostle (‘king anointing’) cast the spirit of divination out of the girl because the apostolic mantle has the authority to do so. (David, having the apostolic or kingly mantle, was the only person in the OT who ‘cast out’ demons. This he did through his music because of the mantle on him. Genuine apostolic ministry is a spiritual warfare mantle or ministry.) But while Paul was given the authority to confront and defeat Jezebel, he was not given the authority to defeat the religious spirit. In 2Cor. 12, Paul says that a thorn in the flesh was given to him, “a messenger of satan”, and that Jesus did not deliver him of it. That thorn was the religious leaders and Pharisees following him around and tearing down the things he was building for the Kingdom. Paul was allowed to defeat Jezebel, but when it came to Religion, Jesus said to him, “My Grace is sufficient for you.” These are the kinds of things it’s important for believers to understand, especially because of the intimate relationship that Jezebel and Religion have with the human soul, making them harder to distinguish, pin down, or contend against.

    • Snoopy It Is says:

      I went and read the Acts 19 incident and see that I confused Acts 18 (where Diana is mentioned) with Acts 16 (where a spirit of divination was cast out of the servant girl). Lol. Both chapters are fairly similar, however (one in Philippi and one in Ephesus), because of the apostles’ confrontation with the demonic and because the apostles’ presence stirred up riots (and imprisonment). It’s good to be reminded that I haven’t been reading my Bible and that maybe I should make more time for it. Haha.

  90. Pat Johnston says:

    Your right, there has been many anti-Christs before Trump . Nero, Napoleon and Hitler, which is exactly what Trump’s rallies in America and now, in India looks like, one of Hitler’s rallies. Frenzied fanatics unable to see how they were contributing to Satan’s plan is happening now, even in India. Why is Indian people foaming at the mouth for Trump ?How can they not see that Trump is destroying that which he claims to have saved. Such blatant disregard for facts is clearly the mind of a fanatic. Satan has indeed been released in the person of Trump to deceive and destroy the world and Christ’s church.

    • sarah says:

      I am responding one more time (to Pat) and I want you to know, Pat, it’s not because of God, I believe, or any divine council to debate about Trump. It’s because what you say is so outlandish and ridiculous. You, Pat, are a typical American Christian (tho, oddly, much more liberal than most), the kind who seems to think that Christianity started in the US and the Bible is all about what the President is doing. I am unsubscribing now to this conversation, because this is more than a waste of time. It’s aggravating and taking away from time better spent. It’s not changing any minds — it’s just one rather haughty person with other rather exasperated persons. When did God tell people to argue about politics? Where did He mention the USA? Please, I have asked you before, but you cannot seem to listen, just STOP and move on. Really. Enough already.

  91. Jenny Foster says:

    Pat, I have asked you please not to address any more of your posts to me. However, you have asked me to point out where you are going wrong. I will do it but would be very surprised if you will listen to a single word I say. In the interests of keeping it simple, so a child could understand, may I please suggest that you go through all your posts on this thread and count how many times you said the name “Trump” and how many times you said the name “Jesus”. There’s your answer as to why you are in disobedience. Your attention should be on Jesus, not on Trump. If he is the devil incarnate, as you say, why on earth are you giving him your attention? That’s absolutely not what the Bible tells us to do.

    • Pat Johnston says:

      The Lord has called me to point out how they have been deceived in their blind support of Trump. I am trying to show the fallen church why they will be rejected by Christ using scripture, not opinion.

      • SARAH says:

        Pat, i am changing my mind to yet again comment on your post. How do you know that the Lord has called you to point out anything?

        • Pat Johnston says:

          Glad to hear from you! God constantly confirms with His Word, circumstances peace and what I like to call verily verilys or in other wards, God will always confirm His Word at least twice. I speak the truth as given to me through His Word and Holy Spirit. When you have been in constant communication with God through His Word and prayer, you know that God will give you verily, verily’s along the way to confirm it is He speaking to you. It may be through a scripture, a person or an event, but I always wait for the second verily before I speak or act. God has given me several verilys on this subject and many things I predicted at the beginning of Trump’s terror has come to pass. God, also, blesses those who sacrifice for Him, while the world hates us for it. I am very blessed, not rich or famous, just horrendously blessed in every aspect of my life. That only happens, when we are on the right track. In addition, I am 65 and have been committed to the Lord, since I was 16. I have been baptized in the Holy Spirit. I have been a diligent student of the Bible, Laodecia, (which my city was originally named and in bondage to, and to which the modern church is currently), end times prophecy, powers and principalities since. I have been a Sunday School teacher, street evangelist in San Francisco, member of AGLOW Board and a student of powers and principalities at Bethel. The Lord has put me through rigors, trials and pain to teach me to lean on Him for all things. Along the way, I found the Lord used me to critically look at the church, as many prophets have done, and share what the Lord has shown me, usually angering them. I increased the abilities God had given me with an education in critical thinking and analyzing any media communication. This is not to show pride, but to share my qualifications spiritually and intellectually.
          Most important every morning I read God’s Word and pray with my husband over everything we will face that day. It is important to pick up God’s phone, prayer, and make a connection with Him every morning. So, you have a clear connection with Him throughout the day.

      • Jenny Foster says:

        We are told to test the spirits. If it’s not the Holy Spirit, which we know it isn’t because the Bible tells us a lot about the Holy Spirit, then what is it? And why do you feel the need to boast to defend yourself?

        • Pat Johnston says:

          I was asked a question. I answered it. Telling someone who you are is not boastful, it is informative. Like a resume, it allows you a glimpse at who I am spiritually and intellectually, so you know where I am coming from. I would not have accomplished none of it without Jesus. Starting with an sexually abusive life at 6 that continuing until my 30’s. I was extremely rebellious, backslid and ran away from God many times, paid a price price lost my business, divorce, bankruptcy and rebellious teens, but God always had a plan, I just refused to listen. Each time, God made sure he never let me go completely and finally, I am at peace for the first time in my life, because I accept the person God has made me. I tried to kill myself, but God saved me. Being proud of accomplishments, in spite of myself, does not make me boastful, especially when I acknowledge I only accomplished it, because of God. It also proves I know what I am talking spiritually and intellectually. Like I tell my kids, you can be as smart as me when you earn your Bachelor’s. One did and it was in Microbiology. Trust me she is way smarter than me and an almost perfect 25 year-old in every way. She is beautiful, loving, caring, kind, a ballet teacher, a wife, owns her own house, goes to church faithfully, involved in the community, a phlebotomist, studying to be a clinical lab scientist and on the front line of the Corona virus It is in support of what I say. I am very proud of her and thank God that in spite of myself, he blessed me with this angel. Am I a bad parent to boast about her? The biggest boaster and braggart alive is the Devil Trump, yet you blindly support him. That is hypocritical and therefore judgmental of you to say. When you stand with Trump, you have no moral standing. Matthew 7:3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

  92. Snoopy It Is says:

    From this blog:

    “The good news is that God gives each individual person the freedom of choice. Everyone has the freedom to make decisions, to make mistakes, to think for himself/herself, to communicate, to like or dislike and to express his/her taste and creativity. Those who control are in worship of their own wills and their own ways.”

    I currently know a 73-year old man who I visit once in a while (he also has caregivers from an elder-care company who visit him). He was raised by a single mom who was definitely a Jezebel because he’s possibly the worst Ahab I have ever been around. However, in that weird hybridization that sometimes happens, he also has Jezebel traits (which he will have picked up from his mom).

    This 73-year-old is a pathetic example of what a man is supposed to be. (I say that as a fact, not as a condemnation of him. In a culture of fault-finding, no one really knows what fact-finding is when the facts are negative. They only understand ‘negatives’ as faults and dismiss them as facts. How pathetic.) When I come over, and when he has people over, he will lie around, seeking attention, ‘playing possum’ in the hopes that someone will comfort him and do everything for him.

    As stubborn and adamant as the elderly man is– pretending to be senile and anything else he can pretend in order to get people to pamper him– and as resistant to God and opposed to everything that is moral as he is (ie. as lost and hopeless as he appears to be to anyone with just half a brain), he still has full freedom to make a choice for God. He hates to have that freedom and wants to be as damned as possible, beyond the reach of God’s Grace, but he till has the freedom to repent. Sometimes when you’re around evil or wicked people– especially people with the ‘lucifer gene’ (Jezebels and all pwASPD (people with Anti-Social Personality Disorder: narcissistic personality disorder, histrionic personality disorder, borderline personality disorder, sociopaths, psychopaths, etc.))– it starts seeming like they don’t have the ability to repent, but they all do. It’s always good, at least for me, to remember that.

  93. Snoopy It Is says:

    Someone reminded me today about all the attacks President Trump has been under. I was referred to the video below after watching a video about Kim Clement who had prophesied that Trump would become president a day before Trump entered the presidential race. You don’t want to lean on one person’s prophetic word, but I’m reminded that when you put together all the events of Trump’s run and time in office, it again becomes apparent that God put him in office.

    This isn’t something that Westerners, especially Americans, understand at all: opposition, rejection, resistance, and backlash against a person doesn’t mean that the person is in the wrong. On the other hand, because people have become so wicked and rebellious, it is often a telltale sign that a person is actually good or upright or is doing the right thing. In the West, especially America, being liked (by all 360 million people in the country if at all possible) is the highest good. “The fear of man” is not only prevalent but is a very important part of America’s value system.

    In the American value system, you’re actually supposed to live in fear (a fear that runs like an electric current through everyone in this country and only overtly manifests at certain times, like now with COVID-19) and be afraid of what everyone thinks of you. I can provide evidence for this easily because it’s apparent and only overlooked because it’s ‘normal’. Most of the belief systems and worldviews in individuals and cultures run beneath the surface– in their SUBconscious minds– where people are rarely aware of what they believe, how they believe, and why they believe. It explains hypocrisy like you see in the LGBTQ community.

    Because American culture is directly set against God’s ways (because “the fear of man is a snare”), the Kingdom of God in America is like an airplane full of passengers that is moored to the tarmac (runway) by oppressively heavy iron chains and has no chance to even taxi for take off, because when someone in America stands up without the fear of man (when a person lacks the fear of man), then all the ‘culturally fearful’ people stand up against that person. If you live in America– or in the West but especially in America– look with different eyes wherever you go. Actually look at people (don’t watch them; look at them, don’t just see them). The air is thick with fear and everyone smells like prey; everyone is poised to take off and run at the slightest disturbance. (This is why ‘terrorists’ will cause such people to give up any and every right just to be safe. But in countries like Israel, Palestine, Syria, and Iran, ‘terrorists’ don’t bother people nearly as much.)

    It is because Trump lacks that nationally cherished fear of man that some people particularly resent him. I’ve experienced it, and it’s always been the same types of people– some ranking higher on the hatred spectrum (eg. narcissists, Jezebels: those who feed on the fearful) while others rank not much lower (eg. flaming homosexuals, entitled princesses: the toxically self-centered and self-absorbed)– but basically all in the same class. When someone is under attack, it’s sometimes a telltale sign that the person is in the right. Comedian Dave Chapelle once mentioned a few Hollywood stars who had nervous breakdowns and were dismissed as simply ‘crazy’. He told the interviewer, “Calling somebody ‘crazy’ is dismissive… These people are not crazy. They are strong people… Maybe their environment (Hollywood) is sick.” The witches who accused Trump live in a sick society. Unaware of the real issue, they attack Trump because they can’t manipulate him through fear as they can with the average person. It’s only a reminder that God put Trump in office.

    • Sarah says:

      What about the videos showing Trump admitting he is pro choice and that he admires Killary? God allows people in power but that doesn’t mean the Freemasons aren’t doing all they can to drag us all to hell. All we know is that the Bible says to pray for our leaders and trust God. It doesnt say argue for 76 weeks about politics.

      • Jenny Foster says:

        It’s not really fair to say that people were arguing about politics. Rather someone was attacking the POTUS in the belief that Trump was Satan incarnate and insisting that everyone should join in with her as that was where it was at and that’s what God wanted, while others were disputing her conclusions. I wouldn’t actually call that arguing about politics. I enjoyed reading Snoopy’s very well written and well thought out posts and wished I had a mind like that!

        • Sarah says:

          I find that there are 2 people arguing about Trump, and both claim to hear from the Lord. This is where things get weird because it’s just way too easy to be deceived by feelings etc. No one has all the answers and we could be a bit more tolerant and stop saying others are “not Christian” based on their political beliefs

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        “You’re worried about too many things.” You judge people and things on outward appearances. If Trump was doing wrong behind the scenes but was a perfect example of a good person in public, you would judge only his public persona and would like him. But because he isn’t ‘perfect’ (thank God), you are pointing out what is publicly known about him and don’t care for his private life. It’s a Western tradition– the cult of personality, the gods of outward appearances we all follow.

        As Westerners, we know and care nothing about the inward heart. That’s why Western psychiatry and psychology are so askew and in denial about addressing true root issues rather than hovering over outward symptoms. We care about people’s personalities (Latin: ‘persona’, mask) and not their character (Greek: ‘charakter’, nature); but a person’s character is the real person. One’s personality is simply what he allows others to see or the way he acts around others.

        God isn’t concerned about outward appearances. Why are you? “The Lord looks on the heart.” Why don’t you? It doesn’t matter what we know about Trump; what matters is that God put him in office. There aren’t [m]any presidents we can say this about. God choosing someone doesn’t mean the person is ‘perfect’; it means that God has need of them. Throughout the Bible God chose leaders who were imperfect and even leaders who were corrupt. Jesus chose Judas Iscariot, knowing Judas would betray Him. Peter saw what happens when we let satan get into us to rebuke or disagree with God’s decisions. He tried to dissuade Jesus from going to the cross which is the same as rebuking Jesus for choosing Judas. So, why are you rebuking His decision to put Trump in office?

        Trump doesn’t admire Hillary; he’s a businessman. Any businessman with half a brain knows that he must get along with those with whom he does business. Trump has done this even to his own detriment, leaving people within his staff who showed clear signs of disagreement with him. That caused problems for him. As compromising and imperfect as Trump is, God’s hand is so visible on him (in the spirit realm) that even people whom he tried to accommodate rejected positions he offered them because they hated him so much. They are in agreement with ‘the prince of the power of the air’ and are “sons of disobedience” (ie. in rebellion against God in their very nature; this isn’t the case with everyone as everyone is sinful in nature but not always rebellious in nature).

        Don’t worship leaders and those in positions of authority and expect them to be perfect, because you aren’t perfect yourself. Only God is perfect, so only He has the RIGHT to nitpick what He likes and dislikes about people. As I sensed before Trump was elected, God actually LIKES him and is FOND of him. Of course, Westerners define that differently, so you probably don’t know what that means. Cyrus was a pagan king. You wouldn’t think that this passage was about a Gentile pagan: “Thus says the Lord to His anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have held.” But why did God choose Cyrus? “For Jacob My servant’s sake, and Israel My elect, I have even called you by your name; I have named you, though you have not known Me.” (Isaiah 45.) God chose Cyrus for Israel’s sake. That automatically means that Cyrus did not have to be in any way perfect because he was a tool to build/uplift a nation/building. The project is the focus, not the tools used for it. When we’re “at ease in Zion,” our hearts harden against God and we’re too full of our opinions to perceive when He’s at work.

        Lastly, I don’t try to force my opinions on others; that’s what arguing is and it almost always signifies a lack of temperance (self-restraint) and love. And God isn’t concerned about the Freemasons and their plans because He can’t be destroyed nor can those who trust in Him. Everyone else should be concerned. God has no life to save (so He lets the wicked prevail); only people do. While we shake and shiver in fear because bad people want to do bad things to us (I hope COVID-19 begins the stirring of the churches), “He who sits in the heavens shall laugh; the Lord shall hold [those bad people] in derision. Then He shall speak to them in His wrath and distress them in His deep displeasure” (Psalm 2).

    • Pat Johnston says:

      Sorry Sarah. This is for SNOOPY! You outpigoted yourself on that one. What makes you think being narcissist, like Trump clearly is, gay, like many closet Christians are or a entitled princess ( You mean like Ivanka?), Jezebels (the demons supporting Trump), toxically self-centered and self-absorbed, like Trump clearly is? Yes, all have sinned and no one’s sin will make them lose their salvation, except supporting the man of lawlessness and receiving his mark on your heart and mind. Your bigotry towards certain classes of people is definitely a sin.

    • SARAH says:

      For some reason this only will let me reply to Pat, rather than to Snoopy. Yes, God used Cyrus to do his will. This does not mean he “liked” him. God does not “like” people – he loves all people but hates their sin. I have no idea where you get the feeling that God is fond of Trump.
      Judge by the outside? how else are we supposed to judge? How do you judge Killary and others if not by their actions? I am not saying God didn’t put him in place, but that also means that Obama was God’s choice, Bush was God’s choice, Stalin, Hitler, etc etc. And that may be the way it is. No one is saying that Trump must be removed. At least I don’t think they are.
      What I think Pat is saying and what I am wondering and have asked already, is what causes you to believe God approves of Trump, especially with his rather pro choice pro strip club pro pay-people-off character? What exactly is it that American Christians are so in love with Trump about?
      Pat, I really don’t think approving of Trump is the mark of the beast. He may well be related to the antichrist/NWO, like all leaders and most politicians. But when it comes to opinions about politics, God doesn’t say we must be a certain party to be saved!

      • Pat Johnston says:

        The Bible talks about a mark. Could it be the mark and commitment at the ballot box. We are warned about a little horn, as part of the Beast. A little horn is a trump. God speaks in parables and riddles. So, the mark is another parable to study and decipher. It could mean a literal mark on the body, that may come, as it did in the Holocaust. The more we study and pray, the more our eyes will be open to the mysteries of God’s Word. Most Christians have never read the whole Bible and it shows. It is not about party at all. It is about worshiping Trump and turning America over to him. Currently, he is doing a horrible job with the outbreak, but Trump demons are busy telling Trump’s followers that all is well and the brainwashing continues, because they don’t bother to hear the opposite side. Snoopy, Sarah has a great question…Why do so-called Christians support Him?

    • Pat Johnston says:

      Hillary received 3 million more and Trump cheated with the help of criminal actions, (payments to porn star and bunny to hide truth about affairs, when Melania was pregnant) and Russia. He won by deception, like everything he has ever done. All smoke and mirrors, when you are the Devil. How is America and our Constitution bad? Are you an American?

  94. Snoopy It Is says:

    Thanks, Jenny. God gives wisdom to whoever wants it. You just have to ask and keep asking; if you do that, others might notice it before you do, but in time wisdom will begin to ‘alight’ on your head like drops of dew at night on mountain grass: quietly and inconspicuously. The catch about asking for wisdom in particular (and then understanding secondarily) is that you must want the wisdom for the right reason(s) and not for selfish purposes. As with Solomon, God knows what the right reasons are: “Give Your servant a discerning heart to govern Your people and to distinguish between right and wrong” (1Kings 3:9).

    • Pat Johnston says:

      Snoopy: Like Jim Jones, Trump is a cult of personality. God says we are to look at the fruits to know whether he is one His. Trump’s fruit, personality, actions, words, deeds show he has no soul. People attracted to such a carnival clown and entertainer enough to vote for him are deluded by his cult of personality. Trump repeats himself often is a tool of brain washing. Weak minded people are easily swayed, no matter what the facts show. This is God’s church, who should no better, if they really know and serve the Lord. I agree God allowed Satan to put Trump into power, like Hitler and other anti-christ, but as it always is, it is to test His church. Do you think it is to make us rich and powerful. Things he hates or to separate the goat from the lamb, the wheat from the chaff. God wants to know who His church belongs to Him or the Devil Trump. You can’t have both evil and good Mark 7:21 For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22 adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. Matthew 7:34 You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of. 35 A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. The Devil Trump can not bring light, especially when he matches the previous list perfectly. God has chosen evil leaders through out history to teach and try to reach mankind. Hitler was allowed to be a leader. He wasn’t the chosen one either, though many deceived Christians believed he was and turned a blind eye to the evil that was obvious at every turn. He was a son of Satan too. All of the leaders who sinned in the Bible and God used them any way, some repented or paid a HUGE price for their sin, like David and others killed themselves, like Judas. There hearts were not pure, when they sinned and they paid, like Trump and the Christian church will do for their disobedience and worshiping the false idol of money and power over peace with Jesus. I agree with your statement, “(I hope COVID-19 begins the stirring of the churches), “He who sits in the heavens shall laugh; the Lord shall hold [those bad people] in derision. Then He shall speak to them in His wrath and distress them in His deep displeasure” (Psalm 2). God is speaking through the financial collapse and pandemic virus His wrath and derision are directed at the church for supporting the Devil Trump! And you do argue, so don’t try to pretend you don’t!

  95. Snoopy It Is says:

    Sarah, my recent post about Trump with the video is primarily addressing the Jezebel spirit because that’s what this blog is about. There has to be a way to keep things on topic or circle things back to stay on topic. I’m talking primarily about the Jezebel spirit, secondarily about witchcraft (because of the close correlation), and then thirdly about how and why so many people– particularly christians– are ‘getting it wrong’ in America. And yes, I can say that if 1.) it accords with the Bible and 2.) my heart is right (and I’m not pointing out specks while I have a log in my own eye).

    If you really think I’m arguing, and that with Pat Johnston of all people, then you have an extremely low opinion of men, which isn’t astonishing knowing the days, times, and locations we’re all living in currently where men think they were born to make sure women– the decent and the wicked– are comfortable and happy. I could care less about anyone who insists on their own way. I pray (not literally but inwardly BEG) for God to give me less and less ‘care’ for those who don’t care. The Bible does not say to love everyone the same and certainly doesn’t say to be a ‘fool for love’. Every day, predators eat prey (I’m talking about humans here, not animals) who think they’re supposed to be loving and kind to everyone all the time. But I’m not impressed by their performance. Remember how Jehu got rid of Jezebel? Like refuse. And so they are.

    Also, if you can’t discern when the Lord is speaking and through whom He is speaking, you need to consider that a problem that needs to be resolved. God doesn’t honor fleshly agreements, brotherhoods, and sisterhoods; we aren’t to take sides in our hearts because the only side that matters is the side God Himself takes. Remember Aaron and Miriam regarding Moses. God took Moses’s side and that was the end of the story. Aaron’s and Miriam’s opinions ‘mattered not a bit’ to God. I know it’s hard to conceive that when we’re comforted and at ease; when we’re comfortable, it doesn’t make sense that our feelings and preferences and thoughts don’t actually matter.

    Comfort has a natural way of lulling us into deception or wrong beliefs according to many natural principles such as “as the door turns on its hinges, so does the sluggard on his bed” (Pro. 28) and “a body at rest stays at rest”. People who have opportunities nearby or have money naturally become lazy and therefore forget many facts; they no longer perceive or see life clearly. This is why the rich man in the parable thought he had time to enjoy what he had (“Eat, drink, and be merry”) since he had so much but whom God rebuked and said he would die that same night and would no longer be comforted. After Jesus told this parable, He said of the man whose security was in what he possessed, “So is he who lays up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.” (Luke 12.) If you are even a little comforted, which we all will be in our Western nations, you MUST realize that you are AUTOMATICALLY perceiving and seeing a good number of things wrongly. It’s just the way it works. Those who are humble and wise will acknowledge and address it in their lives.

    • Pat Johnston says:

      I think your statement reinforces the idea of toxic masculinity. You really think, as a big man, that you wouldn’t waste your time arguing with a woman, when in reality you have spent a lot of time arguing with me. Many powerful men in Northern California knows their fake macho and chauvinistic piggishness does not intimidate me or make me back down, when I know I’m right. I know don’t have what they need to argue with me, like brains, well-informed and well-educated, with guts. That does not mean they like me, they don’t, but they respect me and try to stay off my radar politically. Back to your LONG laborious dissertation you say, “This is why the rich man in the parable thought he had time to enjoy what he had (“Eat, drink, and be merry”) since he had so much but whom God rebuked and said he would die that same night and would no longer be comforted. So, is he who lays up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.That’s Trump! Those who are humble and wise will acknowledge and address it in their lives”, so say Snoopy. This is exactly what a hypocrite sounds like.

      • SARAH says:

        Pat in this I must agree. And I keep thinking that just as COVID is, Trump also is nothing more than a huge distraction from what leaders are really doing…I mean have you heard any other news at all? about anything??? me neither
        btw no offense but california gives me the creeps

        • Pat Johnston says:

          California is an amazing place. Obviously, lots of people love it here, as everyone moves here. In Northern California, we have mountains, lakes and streams. It may be expensive, but that’s what happens when you have a State that were trying to protect form pollution, clear-cutting and water. The light-hearted are not cut out to live in a place that burns, shakes and volcanoes exploding. I hope everyone in California, especially those that hate it here would leave. They don’t \deserve to live here. Our weather is gorgeous. No tornadoes hurricanes or floods, like the rest of the US. You don’t have to live here, but why hate us? I don’t hate any State. They all are important to the US. California has the 5th largest economy in the world and the US economy would collapse without us. We also feed the world at great expense to our environment. We have an awesome Governor in Gaving Newsom. He is real hands on and has actually came to our little town personally to help us find a place for the homeless, who I wish would go else where, but because of the weather is so great and places to camp, they stay. He’s pretty great to look at too. That is the main reason the Ugly Republicans hate him. He’s good at his job and gorgeous to look at. I don’t remember saying anything about discernment. So, you don’t live in the US?

          • Sarah says:

            Hi Pat, no, you did not say anything about discernment, that was Snoopy. About California, I am a bit suspicious of the ultra environmentalists there. And too many super liberals

      • SARAH says:

        This WordPress thing is weird…it doesn’t allow you to always reply to the comment you want. Anyway yes I felt fairly attacked there but I see that Snoopy does not believe all Christians have the Holy Spirit which is ridiculous. So everything makes sense now. Still, do you have any opinion on the Conspiracy theories eg Albert Pike?

        • Pat Johnston says:

          As a journalist, I don’t follow conspiracy theories, unless they are attached to facts. I have never heard of Andrew Pike and tell me why you asked about him.

    • SARAH says:

      It is really arrogant to say that other people have “no discernment”. We are all trying to do what we can, from where we are, with the very limited knowledge we have. I am personally not a Trump expert, I am not even in that country, but we can still have our own opinions and beliefs. This does not make a person “not a Christian”. As for the Jezebel spirit, most leaders have it because they are narcissist who manipulate their way to the top. They hurt people, some kill people, and they will answer to God.

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Sarah, I was nearly done responding to you when I realized that I was addressing you the wrong way. I was trying to tell you about spiritual things but didn’t know why you weren’t understanding what seems so clear to me. I didn’t understand how you seemed to not see things that were right in front of you– sometimes literally in front of you such as when you said several times that I said certain people aren’t christians (you even put the words in quote as if I wrote them) when I never said it once. You seemed unable to see things plainly written in front of you– bad for Bible reading– not to speak of discern their meaning– very bad for Bible reading. Furthermore, you are also unable to discern people’s hearts or to discern your own heart. (And contrary to false teachings, the Bible says and shows that believers are to not only be able to discern their and others’ hearts but are to do so.) I won’t go through it all but I’ll edit what I already wrote below to fit.

        You do have a low opinion of men: “Men are bad (ie. liars, untrustworthy, etc); women are good (honest, trustworthy, etc.).” It’s ‘an ancient equation’. At the Fall, men received a ‘natural’ distrust for women and women received a ‘natural’ resentment (low opinion) of men. Your low opinion of men is right here in some of your comments; but I understand that without discernment, and living in a self-aggrandizing Western culture, you have no idea. As humans, we tend to believe the best about ourselves. In the West, where Humanism is the name of our god, it’s even worse. But if we were good people, why would we need Jesus? How can a human being be good? We are not good people and should have the same attitude Jesus had when the wealthy ruler– seeing Him as an ordinary human being– called Him “good”. Jesus responded, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God” (Mark 10:17-18). But when people call us [ie. view us, appraise us, or treat us as] good, we gladly receive it when we are anything but good.

        I perceive that you need the baptism of the Holy Spirit. (No PC culture here, believe me.) When a person ‘receives Jesus’, that is only the beginning; the very next step (which is supposed to be a ‘twin’ and not an option) God desires for them is the baptism of the Holy Spirit. It gives a person a sense of purpose other than just getting to Heaven, gives power to live holy (and to AFFECT others for good, not just talk to them), gives discernment, and gives clear direction so you aren’t reliant on others for truth but receive it directly from the Holy Spirit into your spirit– an enhanced version of your ‘knower’ or human intuition but coming now from the Holy Spirit (1John 2:20, 21, 27).

        Not all christians have the Holy Spirit (this can be a complex issue but the Bible is right and we’re all wrong) as the Bible says and shows. Paul met believers in Ephesus who were saved and going to Heaven but who did not have the Holy Spirit. As an apostle– ie. those who are ‘sent’ first– Paul knew that every believer needs the ‘first things first’ and insisted that those believers be baptized which they then were. The change after the baptism was immediate as it always is when one ‘receives’ the Holy Spirit. (Acts 19:1-7.) In Ephesians 1, Paul talked about “a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of God”. This comes AFTER the baptism of the Holy Spirit and cannot come without it. If you want a type of ‘open Heaven’ between you and God where the glass is now translucent and not opaque (‘seeing through a glass darkly’, but SEEING nevertheless)– where you know and understand and discern things without the confusion of different opinions, then ask God for the baptism of the Holy Spirit. It’s entirely up to you, but if you do ask until you receive it, I can assure you that from that point on you will never be the same.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        In defense of California, myself and liberals, we have an extremely sensitive State, from our beaches to our mountains. We are the 5th largest economy in the world and literally keeps America’s economy and people alive producing goods, jobs and food. God has blessed California in many ways, but we have to be diligent not to ruin it for greed and even with liberals running the State, they still allow our forests to be clear cut, (There idea of managing.) Which dehydrates our forests, exposes them to pests and with the slash left by clear cutting still in the forest, a perfect storm for wildfires. When you clear cut, there is no shade for baby trees, if they even replant. It also discourages snow pack, as their is no shade to protect it. So, it evaporates and gets dumped on the rest of the country with hurricanes and floods. Water another huge issue to protect. Our farmers are greedy for more and more, especially the rich farmers, who use illegal immigrants to get richer and do not care anything about ruining the water system, environment, fish and recreation. I did a documentary on the Salmon decline for “Faces and Places” in 1986 and basically all of our problems were a result of bad planning and greed. Still, the North State is trying to stop the threat to our precious environment. I lived by the beach, when I was a teenager. You could go there and have fun, without stepping on trash, needles or people. Grew up by an orange orchard that fell to houses. In the North State, we have a cabin by Mount Lassen and have watched the destruction of our forest, even under “liberal leadership”. California has a long way to go fixing our environment, when we try to water a desert, filled with farms. Staying in balance is what I and God seeks from all of His inhabitants. God says in Jeremiah 2:7 And I brought you into a plentiful land to enjoy its fruits and its good things. But when you came in, you defiled my land and made my heritage an abomination. There are many more scriptures indicating God demands us to be good stewards of His land. Not one scripture to say we should ignore and destroy.

    • SARAH says:

      I don’t have a low opinion of men at all. I don’t like people continually arguing about politics. It’s a waste of time and energy. It has nothing to do with men or women.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        I have great respect for men like my husband, who is hardworking, puts the Lord and family first, doesn’t drink or do drugs, doesn’t abuse anyone and obviously very patient. He is married to me, so he must be! LOL! A man, who has read five different Bibles cover to cover and gets up an hour early to read and spend quiet time with the Lord. Obviously hard, especially when the whirl wind Pat wakes up. We pray together every morning, before he goes to work. Unfortunately most men in my life, except my husband and Dad, have abused me. So, I have a very hard time trusting most men.My 3rd cousin was Richard Nixon, so politics has been a part of my life, since I was 9. As a young hippie marching against the war and the establishment, i was often at odds with my father and we argued politics every morning before school. He enjoyed it as much as I, even though we disagreed. I remember a time when people could do that and not hate each other. That changed with Obama and now is non-existent with Trump. As a journalist, I lived politics and writing and it remains a hobby I love. Truth is badly needed right now and people have always said they liked what I wrote, because I said things others were too afraid to say. That is why I called my column “Quite Contrary”. because I am and THAT is how God and life made me and I am finally happy to be me.Unfortunately, it took 65 years, the Lord and a great man, who both love me unconditionally, to finally love myself.

        • Sarah says:

          Fascinating…what are your thoughts on the Globalists using engineered diseases to bring on the 1 world government?

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Snoopy sure attacked and judged you personally for nothing, but an opinion. Once again, Snoopy shows what a Trump “Christian” is all about. Attacking and defending the evil of their cult by putting down an innocent person, searching for answers and attacked for expressing their opinion. You have a good and open heart. God will give you what you need in Hid time, not Snoopy’s. He has no moral standing, as long as he stands with Trump. Hypocrites should not judge others. They need to remove the rotten log of Trump in his eye, before he can truly see the truth and then, he can judge your speck. If Trump, Snoopy and Trump Christians are going to Heaven, I think I’d rather stay here with the sinners. If they are the chosen, then, God chose unwisely, which means there is no all-knowing God. Good news, they are not chosen, but will be rejected by Christ himself at Heaven’s door.

  96. Pat Johnston says:

    One of us is using scriptures to support her arguments. I have always found Trump to be a disgusting pig, since the 80’s. I just couldn’t believe Americans would ever be stupid enough to put that clown into office, so I could’ve cared less with who he was screwing or screwing over week to week. Now, he is President and the worst example of human decency in America politics. That is hard to do! There is a big difference between Trump and imperfect men in the Bible. They were repentant and Trump is not. Therefore, he is not of the Lord. However God is using him to punish America for electing him. Like Saul, God gave the Christians what they wanted a King, when God said we they didn’t need a king and paid a huge price. This is the exact same thing. God asked the church if they wanted an evil and despicable man to run our country and they said yes. So, God has turned us over to the Devil Trump to learn the lesson of being too religious and political, while ignoring what the Word says. Trump is ‘the prince of the power of the air’ and are those who follow him, like yourself are “sons of disobedience. God loves everyone, even Trump. That right there proves He’s a loving God, but He is also a wrathful and jealous God. When Trump and his cult call Him “chosen”, he is doing exactly what the Bible said the anti-christ would say In 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. That is Trump and if you can not see it, then you are way lost and have a long way to get back, unless you renounce the anti-christ.“He who sits in the heavens shall laugh; the Lord shall hold [those bad people] in derision. Then He shall speak to them in His wrath and distress them in His deep displeasure” Good scripture! God’s wrath is upon us with the stock market and COVID-19. God’s not pleased Trump continues to puff himself and boast His wonderfulness, while people die and our economy crashes. God wants Trump to humble himself and ask for forgiveness for a life time of sin. Just like the rest of us. When a person is disobedient, there is a price to pay and Trump in his extreme arrogance, like the anti-christ, refuses to do the right thing for the right reasons. “You must want the wisdom for the right reason(s) and not for selfish purposes. Maybe you should tell that Trump. This is where the hypocrisy of the church lies. You judge everyone else, but Trump is perfect. No wonder the world can’t take Christianity seriously and call them hypocrites, because they are, especially when they lift up the Devil Trump.

    • SARAH says:

      Hi Pat, yes it is true that Trump has behaved terribly in the past what with his owning strip joints etc and not acting anything close to a Christian. Some Americans believe that he is helping the USA right now, but I cannot see how that is, except for possibly a few small groups who got their jobs back….but as anyone with a tin hat like me is aware, NO politician is going to help the US. Since I found out that Trump is actually basically a democrat and is buddies with Killary, well my conspiracy beliefs are just being strengthened. Every leader of the world who has any clout is going with the Bilderbergs/Illuminati/Freemasons. There is no good Christian leader. How could there be? A true Christian would not be elected because they would be honest and try to do what’s right and that would not be tolerated by most people, who are the children of satan. There are no perfect leaders, yet we must pray for them because God told us to. But to be fair, Pat, I think God is angry at a lot more than just Trump!

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Hey Sarah, nice to hear from you. You have been in mind and prayers, but it looked like comments stopped, so I moved on. Trump sinned every way possible and was a Democrat, before he was a fake Republican. Trump doesn’t really believe in anything or anyone, but himself. He was a Democrat, when he was close friends with the Clinton’s, during a time that many the sick, rich and powerful men was friends with Jeffrey Epstein, along with Prince Charles and Trump’s lawyer, Alan Derschowitz. I imagine they all had sex with under-age girls. They all had a reason to have Epstein killed before he spilled the beans, but who? AG Barr said, “He was going to get to the bottom of it and then as bad things about powerful people do, just faded away. That is where the media fails us, there is too much news to spend time actually getting to the truth.You are right, our country is in the hands of God and the people have a chance to put a moral, honest and experienced guy in, who didn’t cheat on his wife or spend time on Epstein’s Isle of Perverts. Trump and the Clinton’s were friends when Clinton was President. Chelsey and Ivanka were very close also. They are not friends anymore and Trump is neither a Democrat or a Republican. He is out for himself. That was why he was a Democrat, until a black guy was elected and then, his racism and like-rhetoric with the Tea Party, White Nationalism and the worst bigots of the Republicans, so he became a Republican and conned them into thinking he was the real deal. Hillary was not my first choice, but she actually has never been accused of any actual crime, where Trump is a unidentified defendant in the trial for paying hush money to his porn star and playboy bunny lovers, he had sex with, when Melania was pregnant with Barron. That alone should disqualify him for President, since it was cheating and bribery to get elected. How many times has he cheated to get elected since? We will never know, as long as he is in the White House, because he won’t respect Congressional subpeona’s. Which he should have been impeached for. My husband and I pray every morning for Trump, even if we will never vote for him. I think it is working, because today Trump acted semi-Presidential. In response the stock market started going up, until Trump started talking smack again and being boastful. Then the stock market fell. God has a way of showing you, what is really going on by staying in the Word and watching the media, including FOX. It is important to watch them, so you can see how one-sided and badly reported it is. You can only do that if you watch MSM too. You are right! He is mad at our assault on His planet. He is mad that we have pedophile priests and adulterous pastors. He is mad that 2/3’s of Christian men watch pornography, but he’s most mad at those who continue to support the Devil Trump, like the Bible says of the anti-christ, says he’s chosen and the Christians, who support him have lost their salvation and refuse to hear the truth. God expects his people to know the difference between a good man and an evil man. The church obviously doesn’t know the difference and really doesn’t seem to care. May God Bless you and keep you and yours healthy and safe.

        • SARAH says:

          Hi Pat, you raise some interesting points. The truth for me is that I don’t trust any of the media reports (in theory, if you followed both sides, you’d get the truth, but I think both are now are just so corrupt) and so it’s really hard to figure out exactly what is going on. If you have ever spoken to any Euopean about it you will see that their news is very very different from the USA! Also I have been dealing with other things and I find politics is just stressful and annoying. I am Canadian and we have our own problems lol. Personally I also don’t believe a true Christian can lose their salvation, and that is something I have studied for a long time because it caused me so much worry. I can’t say what others should do — for me, whether it’s wrong or right, I refrained from voting last election. I have serious problems with conservatives (republicans) as well as liberals (democrats). They are both evil in their own ways! If God shows me a verse that says “vote for this guy” then i will look again…but in the midst of this Corona thing, which most likely came from a scientific lab in Wuhan, I am mostly thinking of repenting before the Lord returns!!

      • Pat Johnston says:

        I haven’t really researched this topic, but I think we can easily see it is the Republicans and Trump, who are in cahoots, with Russia, Saudi Arabia and other dictators. The conservatives care about money more than people, as evidenced in the outbreak. Their priorities and Trump’s will cost us trillions in dollars and hundred’s in lives and livlyhoods. Thank God Democrats stood their ground and passed a tight bill, instead of one that Trump could give all our money away to himself and his rich friends. Now, if we can get him off of television and to stop his lying mouth, get hospitals supplies they have been begging for for weeks, we may be able to save lives, instead of losing them to stupidity, greed and ignorance.

    • SARAH says:

      Thank you for your prayers! I will add you and your husband to my prayer list

      • Pat Johnston says:

        You are on the right path. God tells us to not look left or right, but to look at him. Right now, with the spirit of a warrior called by God to tell Christians they have been deceived and will be doomed to hell, if they vote for the man of lawlessness a second time is not an easy task, full of hate for me for the Word I bring. What prophet doesn’t face persecution and ridicule, when they speak the truth. The Lord was directly talking to the church, when he says in Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ Many other scriptures support this scripture about the fallen church. Who is the fallen church, if not the man of lawlessness, which I believe is Trump. If you ate not saved I urge you to do it, not because of plagues or Trump or peer pressure, but to receive His salvation, peace and love, which is a tremendous gift to receive, especially, while God is preparing us for the end times. Good luck and stay safe and close to Jesus. This to will pass and then, great things will happen, not because of Trump, but because we reject him, and look to Jesus, ask for forgiveness and cleansed by the blood of the Lamb

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ Jesus is talking to the church, not sinners. He is telling the church why they will be rejected. What does rejected by Christ mean to a Christian? You are on the right path, if you are saved. We are not to rely on the left or right, but on God and His Word Proverbs 4:25 Let your eyes look straight ahead; fix your gaze directly before you. 26 Give careful thought to the paths for your feet and be steadfast in all your ways. 27 Do not turn to the right or the left; keep your foot from evil. Trump’s virus came from Wuhan, but it wasn’t a scientific experiment. It was stupidity. The Bible tells us what is a healthy and Pangolins bitten by bats is not on the list. We are all worried about the pandemic and it appears as end times are upon us. If you have never repented and accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior, do it now! Not because of adversary or plagues, but because, he will renew and love you profoundly. Changing your life in an instance and for eternity. It doesn’t hurt that the remnant church will be raptured, before I believe Trump’s second term, which I believe will happen. 3 1/2 plus 3 1/2 = 7. Seven years of tribulation starting with the election of the man of lawlessness. If he doesn’t get elected a second term, than I am wrong about everything and will admit it. The only people that can change the outcome is the Christians, who support Trump, by rejecting him. I don’t see that happening. If Trump is the anti-christ, borders and sovereignty will not matter, the world is doomed. diethttps://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200326144342.htm

  97. SARAH says:

    Also Pat, i really think that more than 2/3 of Christian men watch porn…probably about 96% I’d guess…it’s sad…but I get what you are saying…God is not happy with us.

    • Pat Johnston says:

      I looked it up, but who knows, for sure, but the Lord, which is one reason he’s a bit wrathful these days.

      • SARAH says:

        I did some research a while ago…the percentage is pretty freaking high. Of course, there are other sins out there too, but this was just one to mention…

        • Pat Johnston says:

          If you have blocked me from commenting, do not send me anymore of your “Truth in Reality”. If you can’t be open minded, I don’t need to here from you. If you follow Trump, repent.

      • Sorry, but we would have thought it was pretty clear that this site is not about following Trump or not, or indeed any world leader, and it is not even based in the USA. Rather, Truth in Reality is a Bible-based site and that means it is about being a follower of Jesus.

        • Pat Johnston says:

          Sorry, I thought you were in the US. Still, where ever you are shouldn’t all Christians everywhere reject Trump as the “chosen” and be concerned the church in the US put him there, in spite of everything evil he does. In fact, doesn’t he resemble many of the aspects of Jezebel? Why is the subject of Jezebel, more important than “Christians being deceived by the anti-christ? God wants His army to stand against the men of lawlessness, all over the world, not ignore or support him.

      • You said: “God wants His army to stand against the men of lawlessness, all over the world….” Yes, he does, but not just those in government, and certainly not just Trump in the USA. In fact, while ‘the world’ now may in some ways, seem to be centred on the USA, and many Americans certainly believe that it is, the Bible is not of course centred on the USA which didn’t even exist until recent times. “Thus says the Lord GOD: ‘This is Jerusalem; I have set her in the midst of the nations and the countries all around her.” (Ezekiel 5:5)

        • Pat Johnston says:

          The Bible is full of parables and prophecies that make no sense, until it’s fulfillment. Probably one of the best articles on Trump being the anti-christ is: http://www.thehypertexts.com/donald%20trump%20666%20mark%20of%20the%20beast.htm. America is the leader of the world making Trump the MOST powerful man in the world. In addition, is a list of characteristics belonging to the anti-christ and Trump.
          Intelligent: Revelation 13:18; Daniel 7:8.
          Charismatic Speaker: Daniel 7:8 Revelation 13:5.
          Crafty Politician: Daniel 9:27; Revelation 17:12, 13, 17.
          Distinct Physical Appearance: Daniel 7:20.
          Military Genius: Revelation 4; 17:14; 19:19.
          Economic Genius: Daniel 11:38.
          Blasphemer: Revelation 13:6.
          Utterly Lawless: 2 Thessalonians 2:8.
          Pastor Gerald Flurry, who supports Trump, says the anti-christ will be another strongman from Germany. Trump’s family is from Germany. He doesn’t have to be a resident, just from the right country.

      • Jenny Foster says:

        Pat Johnston, It’s shocking how anyone can be so absolutely sure they are right, yet be so radically wrong. Your shameless know-it-all boasting has to be born out of tremendous ignorance. It is evident that when it comes to what the Bible says about a number of things, including the antichrist, and especially pride and self-righteousness, you are astonishingly ignorant. I wonder whether you have ever actually studied the Bible? It seems that you just skimmed through it and assumed that you knew it all already and didn’t need to study what it actually says. Such as Galatians 2:20: I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.

        • Pat Johnston says:

          If I respond to your demonic attacks to my character, you will say I am being prideful, even though you blindly support the most prideful man alive…the Devil Trump. Therefore, you have no moral standing, when you stand with the Devil Trump and your opinion lacks any merit. I have opened up to you guys, unlike yourself. All I know is your a typical Trump supporter, especially when it comes to bullying. Somehow, you think calling me names is going to change my mind. It’s not. Your opinion is totally irrelevant to me. For others, I was born in extreme poverty, raped and molested from age 6. I was saved at 16 at Calvary Chapel in Costa Mesa, during the 70’s revival and huge movement of God. I was saved again after, I tried to kill myself at 22. I was baptized in the Holy Spirit, with the evidence of tongues. I was a Sunday School teacher, a Board member of AGLOW, a street evangelist in San Francisco with SOS San Francisco or Save our Souls. A very dangerous place for Christian, especially during the 80’s, we would spend two hours in prayer and worship, before going into areas of devil worship, prostitution, other sexual sins and crime. I went to Bethel for a six week course on powers and principalities. Then, I back slid again after divorcing my abusive husband of 18 years. The Lord, even though I was not worthy led me to my new husband and between him and God’s unconditional love, my life has been wonderful and finally, except for being terrorized by Trump, every day, peaceful. I have read 5 different Bibles cover to cover and my first Bible KJV is bent brown, highlighted, cried upon, marked and high lighted with the growth of my spiritual life. Sorry, if you think that is bragging. Maybe by the time you are 65, you will have at least one thing to be proud of and I doubt supporting the man of lawlessness will be it.

          • SARAH says:

            Hi Pat, thanks for your nice message. Well not everyone in Canada is laid back, it depends where you are. We are starting to go under lockdown too, as people are becoming sick with Corona, even way up north in the Arctic. Just curious, what is this Bethel school you went to?

    • Sarah says:

      No I did not block anyone. I dont follow trump or anyone else!

      • Pat Johnston says:

        I didn’t mean you. I thought Truth in Reality blocked me, because three different posts were stopped from posting. I have an electric personality, that screws up all things electrical. I have no idea what happened, but I didn’t direct to anyone on the comment page, something just went awry with my computer, as usual! LOL!

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Now it is a HUGE and very successful School of of Christian Ministry, which is very interactive with the community. Here is a link: https://www.bethel.com/. I went back in the 80’s, when they were first starting. Unfortunately, they too support Trump. Northern California is Trump Country with 65% of people following and supporting him blindly. Very backwards thinking, but gorgeous! Today will be 62, with 70’s next week. After a totally dry month the Lord blessed us with some beautiful spring rain and everything is moist and blooming, including the weeds! I live on a slough, near the Sacramento River and the soil is 20 foot of top soil, so when my flowers bloom, so do my weeds. Can’t wait to get out there! No Corona virus here either, so far! One of many good things about small towns! How about your town?

        • SARAH says:

          It’s really hard to reply to people on this site. Pat, I am in a tiny town of about 3,000 with about 10,000 in the farms and Indiginous people reservations around. So far, we have no recorded outbreaks of Covid but other towns nearby do. It’s only a matter of time. Even people way up in the arctic have it! I am not sure if it’s God’s wrath or the Globalists or both.

  98. Jenny Foster says:

    Pat, You really are utterly obsessed and you sound quite unbalanced. How can you possibly purport to know that God hates Trump more than he hates whatever? Where in the Bible did you get that from? It is evident that at points during your rants, you are only talking about yourself. God hates pride, which you seem to have in abundance. God also hates bigots who behave in such a way as to put Christianity in a bad light and they will be called to account for it, and that fits you too.

    • Sarah says:

      To Jenny and Snoopy, I am curious why you are such supporters of Trump, it would be interesting to hear what it is you admire about him, please, seeing as most of the rest of the world doesn’t care for him

      • Jenny Foster says:

        Sarah, Did you not notice that Pat is accusing everyone of being a Trump supporter – even when they don’t live in the same country? It would be like someone who lives in the UK and hates Boris Johnson (and there are enough of those) ranting at someone who lives in the US accusing them of being a supporter of Boris Johnson – ridiculous. But then much of what Pat has said is ridiculous, and worse. Not the least, posting a link to “Bethel” which is the creation of some of the most false reprobate false teachers around today, like Bill Johnson, who are at the very centre of the massive spider’s web of corruption that has defiled Christian churches all over the world.

        To answer your question about Trump, I don’t believe I’ve ever heard a US president saying let’s pray about it, only Trump. He may be evil, but so are they all. No, I don’t support him, but I do what we were told to do in the Bible, which is pray for our leaders as they are there because God wants them there as part of his plan. That’s why Pat is so obviously in disobedience although she is far too proud to be able to see it. If Pat had properly read the Bible she would know that pride is an abomination to God and she would have hated what God hates, but she doesn’t, and that says it all.

        • Snoopy It Is says:

          Jenny Foster, your mention of Bill Johnson and Bethel brought me here. I’ll try to keep this somewhat on the topic of this blog post which is the Jezebel spirit.

          Yes, Bethel and Bill Johnson and all the charismatics who run with that circle are basically mad (insane) and preach another gospel that even non-christians recognize as not being the Gospel. A male Jezebel gave me Bill Johnson’s book ‘When Heaven Invades Earth’ to borrow eight years ago. I knew he was a Jezebel, so I immediately didn’t trust the book. It wasn’t beneficial to him, so how could it be beneficial to me? (He was under the tutelage of his female pastor who was a Jezebel and whose husband was an Ahab. When I visited, I saw that her church was so dominated by Jezebel that all the men and boys sat in the back and only females sat in the front. Only females did any kind of ministry– from pastor to worship to everything– and the only male on any ‘team’– the pastor’s husband– worked the sound booth in the very back of the church. The male Jezebel who gave me Johnson’s book was a very immature Jezebel and was ambitiously learning from his pastor to be more adept at Jezebel’s ‘witchcrafts’. His pastor knew to stay away from me and to keep me away as far from her flock (churchgoers) as possible; but he was too immature to know that.) As soon as I read the back of Johnson’s book, the Lord showed me that the entire premise of the book was false (and therefore the whole book was also false): Johnson begins on the back, “Anyone can walk in the miraculous– even you!” But 1Cor. 12:28-29 says that only some are called to walk in the miraculous and that “not all” are miracle-workers.

          When you’re too close to something, it’s difficult to see more than its surface. Western culture is very fertile soil for the growth of a remarkably high number of unflattering and unsavory things. Charismatic christianity simply borrows from Western culture. However, most of charismatic christianity is founded on satanic values. Real satanic values, not just ‘ba things’. Just like the U.S. was partially founded on christian principles, partially founded on man’s fallen nature, and partially founded on satanism, charismatic christianity was founded on those same three things. I don’t know if you’ve heard of satanic ritual abuse, but the short of the long is that it’s a way that the fallen angels have taught human beings to dominate the will of others outside their awareness. It gives satan indirectly the ability to steal free will. When you look at people and ‘movements’ like Bill Johnson, Anderson Cooper, Don Lemon, Bill & Hillary Clinton, Todd White, Todd Bentley, Patricia King, hyper-charismatic churches, Mike Bickle and many 24/7 houses of prayer, Britney Spears, Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, the LGBTQ movement, Disney and Nickelodeon child stars, many movie and music stars and models and porn stars, what you are seeing is the ‘handiwork of satan’– people that he controls through ‘controllers’ in order to through those people control the masses. The people who are being controlled are not aware of it. The more you get a grasp of that and what it means (and the Bible talks about it but, like most things, not on the surface), the easier it will be to understand what is going on, why some ministers and churches are so ‘out there’, and how satan has such a strong hold on people’s minds and emotions (far more than he would have had outside of the phenomenon of satanic ritual abuse), and why news reporters on the conservative and liberal sides are convinced of their opinions (many are ‘programmed’ and are only repeating what they have been told to; it happens on both sides as a model for the American masses to be LIKEWISE divided). Wherever God’s people lack vision as a body, satan is there. He is very often manifest in a place without vision ‘in the form of Jezebel’, a spirit that has the charismatic and prophetic movements and churches by the gonads.

          The following is a fairly long article, but if you have a heart that loves truth and are seeking it, it will probably be interesting to you. It was written by a survivor of satanic ritual abuse who didn’t recall what had been done to him until it began to surface later in life. (In satanic ritual abuse, they force people’s memories down so they can’t access them. It’s similar to the ‘alien phenomenon’ where people who’ve been abducted and victimized have their memories ‘erased’ (they aren’t really erased, just shoved way into the subconscious).) As it is right now, you can walk into any charismatic church in North America and throw a penny in any direction and you will hit several survivors of ritual abuse. Most of them will have no clue whatsoever. In fact, any day you go into a public place and see up to fifteen or more people– even just right outside your front door– you are probably looking at at least one survivor of satanic ritual abuse. They were purposely ‘created’ to INADVERTENTLY carry out satan’s purposes on earth, and through the years, the occultists working with satan have proliferated them all across the planet, especially in developed countries. Wherever the British go, satanic ritual abuse is sure to follow. Read this article and gain a little more perspective on ministers like Bill Johnson and on many of the pretty incredible things happening right now (and I can attest, as many can, that the article is factual): https://sm4csi.home.xs4all.nl/nwo/MindControl/ritual.abuse.and.christianity.htm

        • Snoopy It Is says:

          Jenny Foster, the following is from the article that I linked in my previous comment:

          “This, then, was the structure the Lord uncovered. First was a surface presenter system, a ‘good me’ of personalities that worked, functioned, learned, married, divorced, and lived as a Christian; this was also ‘the me’ that committed to do the work of remembering. Next came the external dissociative shell; this was the residuum of all the violence and demonization that happened to the presenter to make the multiplicity more elaborate. This was the part that would wear a therapist out, appearing to make progress but leaving the generational core undetected and undisturbed. Deepest still was my ancestral, generational core, the historical continuation of a family and culture that had been living in Sodom and Gomorrah for generations completely oblivious but opposed to everything ‘the good (surface) me’ had known as good, true, and real.” https://sm4csi.home.xs4all.nl/nwo/MindControl/ritual.abuse.and.christianity.htm

          Kim Campbell, the author, explains above how people like Bill Johnson and many more of them within christianity (the numbers or percentage would stagger anyone) as well as many outside of christianity are traumatized/forced to have ‘three faces’ or levels. The first face/level is the one the person is aware of and that other people see (this is one reason I’m insistent that christians never judge by outward appearances); it does all the work of daily living. The second level is where much of the abuse happens. And the third level is where all the occultism is hidden. Psychiatrists treat surface symptoms while psychologist try to go further; but neither party likes to acknowledge the supernatural or spirit realm, therefore many people flooding psych wards, mental institutions, homeless shelters, and therapy offices are demonized and have not a chance at recovery. The secular world prefers to seem smart than to be smart, therefore they throw around many diagnoses that do more to help satan and satanic activities remain in the dark than to actually help the sufferer; some of these ‘miss diagnoses’ that are really tied to spiritual bondage you’ve heard before (bondage doesn’t mean the person is never a willing participant): anti-social personality disorder (ASPD), narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), borderline personality disorder (BPD), bi-polar disorder, schizophrenia, histrionic personality disorder (HPD), psychopathy, sociopathy, gender dysphoria, homosexuality, chronic depression, anxiety disorders (social phobias, agoraphobia, etc.), and many more. Many times (not all the time), these ‘mental illnesses’ are a result of trauma which open doors wide for the demonic, and many times the people who have these diagnoses actually have DID (dissociative identity disorder) formerly known as MPD (multiple personality disorder). But luciferians oversee the mental health field and the DSM (make sense) and know that many of their own victims will show up there looking for help.

          Many Jezebels, narcissists, and anti-social (people-hating) and toxic people were ritually abused and don’t remember it (they naturally wouldn’t admit to ever having been victimized anyway). Their toxicity and inclination to destroy or pull down others is simply an adverse reaction to their abuse, an inner vow they took to be the abuser (‘the strong’) and therefore never be vulnerable to abuse again (‘the weak’). Most of them aren’t consciously aware of this. When people who are ritually abused and DID go for help, their different levels– primarily the second one– will wear out 99.999% of therapists, inadvertently doing that in order to protect the deepest level which is occultic to the core. You’ve met many people like this. A person with DID’s day might go like this: the first level wakes in the morning and goes to work, etc, then lies down to sleep. Once asleep (the conscious/first level slips into the subconscious), a personality from the second level will get out of bed, make a call to an occultist, get dressed, and drive out to what will start as a get-together with other occultists and ritual abuse victims/survivors and enjoy some socializing, food, sex (it’s similar to sleep-walking but unfortunately far more sophisticated). Then the mood will change, robes may be worn, and different furniture brought into the room (or they head out to a nearby wood) and then an alternate personality from the deepest level– the third level– comes out and participates in worshipping satan and performing sacrifices and killing and torturing people, etc. After that, the personality from the second level ‘comes back out’ to say bye to everyone, drive home, and get back in bed. In the morning, the first level (the everyday person) wakes up and gets ready for the day. (Might feel tired because he got four hours of sleep, not the might he thinks he got.) He doesn’t recall one single thing of the night before.

          This is what is happening to countless public figures– senators, presidents, celebrities for sure, and ministers– and makes it especially important to not judge people simply on the surface. I said before that I went to a church in New York in 2006 where seven satanist plants were then uncovered who’d been entrenched as christians for fifteen years. Evidence surfaced that they’d been abusing people in the church and those people didn’t recall at the time till I went there and God began to uncover it all. Their memories of abuse (both adults and children) inside the church, particularly in the basement where an old wooden podium was used as a makeshift altar, began to resurface. It caused enough alarm for the pastor’s wife (a Jezebel) to want me out of the church at once. She kept the satanists who were, in her opinion, good for business. So, if God takes a bad person and says, “I can use them for good,” maybe (just maybe) that bad person isn’t ‘all’ that they appear to be. We can judge (ie. have opinions), but we aren’t to pass sentences (that’s when you decide or judge with finality and basically ‘close the book’). Unfortunately, especially in the West, people are taught to judge with finality (sentence). Because of that, many people are distrusting of trustworthy people and trusting of untrustworthy people– entrusting their children (and loved ones and other things that are valuable to them) to pedophiles, satanists, and other kinds of predators because their judgments in favor of or against people and things aren’t tentative but final. That’s what this means (parentheses mine): “Judge (pass a sentence on) nothing before the time, until the Lord comes (until the Lord’s truth, not human opinions, is brought forth) who will both bring to light every hidden thing of darkness (He will reveal what people do behind ‘closed doors’) and will reveal the counsels of the hearts (He will reveal what people think, feel, and believe– and how they in fact ARE despite all outward posturing– behind the ‘closed doors of their hearts’)” (1Cor. 4:5). The more you know what is driving all this madness and all the incongruences and inconsistencies, especially within christian circles, the more you’ll understand things, and the more peace you’ll have as a result.

    • SARAH says:

      Exactly how is Pat a “bigot”? God may well hate (that is, be extremely angry at) Trump as it tells us in the Bible the sorts of things He hates. Trump is not exactly a saint, as you must be aware. He has said he was prochoice among other things – perhaps he has since changed his views, but it shows that he was at least quite immoral in the past at least. As for pride, I think everyone here is guilty of this. However to say Pat is more “unbalanced” than anyone else is not fair.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Thanks Sarah and great questions! Let’s see if they can answer them. I am not sure why I can’t post on this site, but I can on my e-mail reply, when I wrote a personal note to them, it shows up here. What’s up? People block me often when the truth gets too much, I just want to know if I have been blocked, why can I post on my outlook reply page.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Now, it’s working! Sometimes I am such a technotard, when it comes to electronics!

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Jennifer: You have not told me anything, except attack me and defend Trump. What am I suppose to think? If you actually read my posts, which obviously you don’t, you will see I went to Bethel in 1986. In the meantime, Bethel has served our community well, much more than other church’s. However, they support Trump, so all of their good works help the community, are for not, as long as they support of Trump makes them part of the problem, not the solution. Words mean nothing, actions do. Trump’s prayers are not heard or acted on when he denies the need for forgiveness and thinks he is chosen and the Savior, instead of Jesus. That is the worst kind of blasphemy and therefore, according to the Bible, the worst sin a Christian can do. God says to look at one’s fruit to judge their standing. Trump’s fruit is rotten to the core of his poisonous apple, right down to his roots, firmly planted in Satan’s playground. God tests His people throughout history and the Bible. By blindly supporting Trump, you spit in Jesus’s face. i know I told you my Biblical and spiritual background, but you fail to tell me why your are all knowing and right. You don’t use scriptures to support yourself and you judge the speck in my eye, while Trump and his followers have a forest erupting in theirs. You can support a President and point out there failures. My husband and I pray for Trump every morning and hope for the best and each day he delivers more proof that he is evil incarnate. So, instead of lying down and accepting his evil, I speak out, just as prophets and Jesus did, when their leaders were evil. If you had ever read the Bible once all the way through, you would see the truth, instead of just following old goats, like Trump leading you to the wide, happy highway to hell.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        Snoopy: I don’t support Bill Johnson or Bethel, but why call them insane, because they know how to use the Holy Spirits in ways and with believes most church’s stay away from. It appears, you have a problem with Charismatics. It would be interesting to know what you believe exactly, but your badly constructed writing makes it impossible They are just Christians of another doctrine, which seems to have worked out well for them and Redding. Once again, your opposition and theory get’s lost in the second paragraph. My mind gets weary trying to understand all the crazy stuff you think or believe.

    • Pat Johnston says:

      God doesn’t hate, even the Devil, but he is angered at His church for supporting Trump, if he is the man of lawlessness, which I believe he is. If God hates pride, so much and you are so offended by it, why do you support Trump, the most prideful man in the world. God hates hypocrites too and from where I stand that fits Trump supporters. You think barbecue I am trying to help the church see the light and their damnation using God’s Word is instructive, not bigoted. Once again, your President and most of his follower are the true bigots, thinking they are following God, by following Trump, an open racist and bigot. They think they are better and wiser than Christians on the left, with no evidence they are. Please share with me the scriptures that says I will be held to account for putting Christians in a bad light. The bad light is Trump. I am sharing scriptures to bring God’s light to the subject. Something you never do. God doesn’t say I will lose my salvation, only those that worship the Beast and the man of lawlessness. How many more cups of wrath does God have to throw on the modern day Laodecia church to get their attention. In the meantime, the whole world reels from the ungodly power of Trump and the evangelicals continue to support him, while the world suffers from him.

      • Jenny Foster says:

        Again you have proved that you don’t know what the Bible says. The Bible says that God hates, so then how can you say God doesn’t hate, as if you know better than the Bible? You have been told over and over by people that they don’t support Trump but you still insist that they do, as if you know better than they do. You’ve also been told that people do not even live in the United States, even though you foolishly persist in talking to them as if they do. Your demonic hatred of Trump has blinded you and there is no helping you. Perhaps you are subconsciously desperate to draw attention to yourself and can’t think of a more intelligent or helpful way to do it? You are demonstrating some of the traits of a narcissist, with your narcissistic monologues which are not grounded in fact, and certainly not grounded on what the Bible says.

  99. SARAH says:

    Snoopy, I find it odd that you presume to tell me what my opinion of men is. It is a fact that most men use porn, including Christian men. That doesn’t mean I have a low opinion of all men! Any more than you hate “all” women simply because Adam and Eve had issues. (Possibly other reasons but not just because of Adam and Eve. We can’t pin everything on them). Also the fact that you don’t believe all Christians have the Holy Spirit shows me you are some type of Pentecostal or other related type, which as far as I understand is not only unscriptural, but very influenced by demons, as per the creator of this very website (If it is who I believe it is, the person who helped me escape Tarot 5 years ago).

    Finally, the fact that you mentioned that God “reveals” things to you about Trump makes me a bit suspicious. If everyone is running around believing God “reveals” stuff about politics to them, this is just going to create another war. There is a reason the Bible says that Satan appears as an angel of light! I think God has more important things to reveal to us such as “stop sinning” or “prepare for My coming” rather than “vote for this dude”….You Americans just are obsessed with politics and mixing them with religion. I know that some Christian great missionaries taught about the “Second Blessing” but that does not mean that Christians completely lack the Holy Spirit unless they receive the Holy Spirit via laying on of hands etc. And for someone on this site, I find that odd…Pentecostal churches are very open to spirits of an unclean nature. We don’t just receive any and all “revelations” or we are asking for trouble!

    • Snoopy It Is says:

      Sarah, your emotions are like a forest fire; you have countless questions and are seeking, but you’re too at ease and comforted and are therefore keeping God at arm’s length. This will be my last response to you as I must steward my time well. I’ll answer only a few of your countless queries.

      The Bible shows different levels of spiritual maturity among God’s people: infancy, youth, and adulthood (in 1John 2, “babes, young men, and fathers”). As far as a ‘pilgrim’s progress’ towards Christ, you are spiritually in preschool, thrust in there but not having learned anything yet.
      I wasn’t presuming to tell you your opinions; I am 100% confident of your foundational negative attitudes about men the same way that anyone can look at a human being and say confidently about hidden aspects of them, “You have a brain, a central nervous system, and a respiratory system” and be right. You believe in ‘toxic masculinity’ but not ‘toxic femininity’, because you’re still primitive and, never having been sanctified, believe that “Men are bad (liars, untrustworthy, unfaithful, inconsiderate) but women are good (honest, trustworthy, loyal, compassionate).” Women don’t even like each other, and no less than 90% of female employees will say they prefer male bosses; but women are better than men? The day that God relinquishes His throne to satan is the day that women will be more morally upright, intelligent, compassionate, selfless, and virtuous than men.

      I love all women– but not in the way self-serving way most women want to be loved but more in the way that God intended from the start. (There are three levels: lover (ie. sex, flirting, zero respect from men: the flesh), friend (ie. less self, more respect: the soul), and sister (total sanctification intended from Eden: the spirit). But you must know, because “women are good”.) Why are you complaining about ‘perverted men’? If men viewed women as God wanted us to, you’d all feel neglected, lonely, and miserable. Men do not need women (if you want to know one unchanging fact about men, latch on to that one); women need men. You should thank your ‘lucky stars’ that men are ‘perverts’ because that’s basically the only reason men even notice women, and women wear skimpy and skin-tight clothing to attract men because their entire lives center around men and men don’t want much else but ‘that’ from them. FACT.

      The Bible says that obedience, not being a christian (or an Israelite in the past), is how a person obtains the Holy Spirit or any level of a relationship with God. There is one God with THREE Members. To have a relationship with EACH ONE, a person must walk in OBEDIENCE, not be a christian. Being christian does not save. In John 14, Jesus shows that obedience is how a person obtains a relationship with each Member of the Godhead:

      1.) Holy Spirit: “If you love Me, keep My commandments. And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper that He may abide with you forever– the Spirit of truth.”

      2.) Jesus: “He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him.”

      3.) The Father: “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.”

      The apostles also stated that God only gives the Holy Spirit to “those who obey Him” (Acts 5:32), not to every christian, because not every christian is obedient as we all know. Biblical Christianity isn’t a club to God (but cultural christianity is); you don’t get in and immediately get all the perks. Some things are free but just like in every relationship, you must RECIPROCATE with God if God will come near you. “Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you.” Now, am I still Pentecostal? Or am I just obedient. Don’t bother responding to me; all email notifications with your or Pat’s names on them no longer make it to my inbox. I’ll be waiting for someone to say something healthy and edifying here. Pity that in and out of modern christianity, it’s those in error who do and talk more while those with healthy and edifying gifts to bring to the table mostly stay silent.

    • Sarah, You said “……you don’t believe all Christians have the Holy Spirit”. For the answer to this we are supposed to look at what The Bible says. The Bible does say that genuine Christians will be given the Holy Spirit, but it doesn’t say there will not be any other influences that they are listening to. The Bible says that many Christians are to whatever degree, false or misled Christians, and so to whatever degree they will not (only) be led by the Holy Spirit. Here’s what the Bible specifically says.

      https://truthinreality.com/2013/07/26/the-true-holy-spirit/

      • SARAH says:

        Thank you, I will check it out. I thought your website was affiliated with Stephanie Spielman’s old website which was very similar. But if you are not in the US I guess this is a different but still very good website, thanks for all the great articles!

    • Pat Johnston says:

      Great response!!! Canada does seem to be an awesome place with laid back people and a wonderful prime minister. Thought about moving there, when Trump was elected, but too cold for this weather-spoiled California girl. I visited Niagara Falls on the Canada side! Loved it! Like a white, magical mystical wonderland! My daughter lives in Up State New York and there was no one there, so my wonderful son-in-law complained about his picky (I am not not about material things) mother-in-law and and he was trying to impress, he talked us into the suite at the top of the hotel for no extra charge. The 1st night, I won $1500.00 at the casino. Downtown was so quaint and friendly! You should be proud of your little country. Maybe that is the problem, Americ aia too big headed for their britches! How does Canada remain so apolitical and so united. You are right, we can learn a lot from Canada.As far as the Holy Spirit, not all will have the same gifts as the other and through and dedication recieve more and get better. As with anything practice makes perfect, but no one has to speak in tongues to be spirit-filled. Everyone is as different as the gifts themselves. It is just another way to divide the church for silly reasons, while ignoring that Trump is destroying the church and they are helping him. I can’t wait to come, this time with my hubby and in the summer!

  100. SARAH says:

    Just a note to TRUTHINREALITY, I noticed you have The Other Side of Darkness listed under Christian Blog Sites, but as far as I know that is a false site by a witch/satanist.

    • Sarah, it would be interesting to know where you heard that, and what evidence was provided. Thanks!

      • SARAH says:

        TRUTHINREALITY, I can’t reply directly to your comment but here it is anyway. This is not the exact article I had found but this one is similar and contains info about the You Tuber who makes those videos: http://www.paranormallycorrect.com/2017/12/dear-beth-eckert-aka-other-side-of.html

      • Reading the post, it simply seems like someone doesn’t like her or agree or understand what she is saying, or where she is coming from. Someone who objects to her lack of perfection when he seems far from perfect himself (that is assuming it is a ‘he’ as some of his comments seem to be somewhat misogynistic) which is something that sadly men often do. There are men including those who claim to be Christian who do not like strong women. He has not presented any actual evidence and there is nothing about Beth that would lead me to believe that she is a fake, just an imperfect person as so many of us are. It seems she has helped a lot of people and there are many including Christians who do neither understand nor approve of anyone who talks about SRA and some try to ridicule or silence people who do. She has certainly spoken out boldly about it, so she is open to criticism whether warranted or not. She is mistaken to celebrate Christmas, but then most people have done things they shouldn’t have done and then later changed their minds about it, so that alone certainly does not mean she is a fake.

        • Snoopy It Is says:

          Truth In Reality, I’ve found that one of the most foundational reasons that christians can even be in error– as we all can be– is because we’re all for the most part practicing a DIY religion. Biblical Christianity is partially DIY and mostly corporate. Modern christianity, especially in the West (I live in the West and have been to a few non-western nations, so I must share according to my experiences), is rooted in ‘doing it yourself’. People get ‘plugged in’ at church but do not ‘connect’. You plug a cord into an outlet; there might be many cords plugged into the same outlet, but at the end, they’re plugged into a thing but are not plugged in (‘connected’) to one another.

          In Acts 18:24-28, there was an apostle-in-the-making by the name of Apollos who was strong in the Word but had not had fellowship with believers who could ‘fill up where he was lacking’ (this is what believers are supposed to do for each other, because there is one body). A couple took Apollos under their wings and trained him so that he had more understanding and was more spiritually mature. From that point on, he made life ‘hell’ for the religious Jews, because he was now ‘built-up’ in Christ the way he was supposed to be. Whoever wrote that comment is a product of the West as we all are. We don’t believe in ‘fellowship’ here. We agree with the Bible, but we naturally don’t want to open ourselves, our homes, and our lives to others. Because this is the case, you’re going to find error everywhere.

          The 12 apostles, whom Jesus commanded several times to go the Gentiles, were subject to their Jewish mindset/upbringing which was that Jews only gather with Jews and not with Gentiles. Because of this, they prevented the Kingdom from reaching further out and going to the Gentiles until Peter’s visions to go to Cornelius ten years later. In 1Cor. 12, Paul said that believers are to be “members” of one body and of one another, and in Rom. 12:4-5 he said, “As we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function, so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another.” Members of one another. This is not something that we practice in this age and certainly not in the West. When that is the case, errors and sins and attitude problems are a given.

          I didn’t detect any hostility in that person’s comment about satanic ritual abuse or really against Beth. What I did detect was that he is ‘alone’ in his religion and therefore cannot see very well. (He basically acknowledges this by admitting that he wanted to talk personally with Beth.) Beth is ‘alone’ too. I’ve watched some of her videos (not the one about christmas) and can tell by some of the things she says. It’s not uncommon for RA survivors to get involved in the New Age, LGBTQ, hyper-liberalism, and witchcraft; and it’s also not uncommon for them to have errant beliefs when their healing isn’t complete. Beliefs, attitudes, sins are ‘resolved’ within community, not alone.

          Unfortunately, unless the Lord makes an exception (which rarely ever happens), healing for RA survivors comes only within spiritual family and community (according to Ps. 68:6– “God sets the solitary in families; He brings out those who are bound into prosperity”); there are many churches today but very few communities (as Paul said, “You have ten thousand instructors (people who teach you) but not many fathers (people who support you)” –1Cor. 4:15); and the unity that comes only from Jesus Himself, not men’s goodwill attempts, is an absolute necessity for healing RA survivors (according to Psalm 133– “How good and how pleasant it is when brethren dwell (agree) together (agreeably) in unity (agreement)… For THERE (in that particular environment only), the Lord commanded the blessing (‘great Grace’ as in the early Church)”). Such circumstances allow the Lord to heal survivors, as He designed the human soul/psyche, because most survivors won’t and can’t let Jesus get close enough to heal them if they don’t feel safe/support and don’t have peace/freedom from fear (according to Psalm 23– “He makes me LIE DOWN (safety)… He leads me beside STILL waters (peace). [Then] He RESTORES my soul (healing)”). In an age and in a society where it’s everyone for himself and where ‘fellowship’ is usually online chatting or Sunday ‘service’, community and can’t happen (till dire circumstances force it) and so most people will go without healing (physical, emotional, mental, etc.), and there will be more negatives (error, sin, attitude problems) than positives “until the Lord comes” after His people open the door to His knocking and let Him in.

  101. Snoopy It Is says:

    I rarely watch videos about ‘conspiracy theories’– especially if they’re longer than five minutes– but a trusted friend sent me the following video this morning, so I watched it through. It’s a good 13-minute summary of all ‘current’ world events, and I really appreciate the way the video unapologetically shows the faces of some of the people it is talking about. “The good guys are winning.” For now.

    • Thank you, that certainly is interesting. Although when they said it would turn out to be the greatest story ever told we had to disagree with them. Also thank you very much for your insightful observations, with which we agree.

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        You’re welcome.

        With the video, as with all things no matter where it comes from or who says or produces or gives it, we’re to “test all things” so that we can take the good and reject the bad. Q and many others think they can defeat the elite and the Illuminati agenda. They, most of who are not christians, don’t understand that the agenda is through men but is from angels who are far too mighty for even believers to defeat (they are Jesus’s territory alone; only He has authority over them). They don’t understand that even if it was possible for all the elite to be ‘taken out’, the same agenda would reestablish itself through the RA survivors left on earth and that even if all the RA survivors were also taken out and only people with no connections to these satanic families were left on earth, still the agenda would restart itself through them.

        The Illuminati agenda is simply the agreement that every human being’s fallen/carnal nature has with the fallen princes in the heavenly places. satan cannot work through humans except through our carnal nature just like God cannot work through humans except through our new nature. Unfortunately, everyone (including those who are being sanctified) has a carnal nature, but not everyone has a new nature, therefore, satan has far many more people to work through than God does. This is why the Bible tells believers to “put to death” their carnal nature which is the place in all people that– after agreeing with satan in the Garden– is in [secret] agreement with satan and has a secret alliance with him. Therefore, the less sanctified we are, the more prone to knowingly or unknowingly agree with and carry out satan’s desires.

        There’s no way to defeat the elite “until the Lord comes” since only He has the authority to pull down kings and princes, especially spiritual ones (Psalm 2). Most people aren’t interested in the things of God. They prefer to run and take up a political or social cause to feel like they’re ‘working’. They can talk politics and argue doctrines but cannot be agreeable with each other or be in spiritual unity, only indicating that their backs are turned on the Lord and they can talk about Him but want nothing to do with Him (lip service; their hearts are far from Him) As a result, they have little spiritual or practical understanding about the way ‘things’ work. But it’s good to finally see “the good guys are winning” for once. It really is a breath of fresh air.

  102. Snoopy It Is says:

    By the way, “until the Lord comes” can have several meanings two of which are a.) until Jesus returns to judge the whole world and b.) the lesser-understood ‘until Jesus manifests among His people and they become vessels for Him to carry out His will and Kingdom “on earth as it is in Heaven”‘. “The Lord comes” whenever people stop keeping Him at arm’s length and let Him take His place as LORD among them (not just Savior which keeps Him at arm’s length at very best). Church services and a little anointing (from the Holy Spirit, not Jesus) does not mean that Jesus is in the building or in that gathering or church. Having ‘church’ has nothing at all to do with Jesus being present as I hope Revelation 3:14-22 makes abundantly clear.

    The Holy Spirit being present in a christian gathering will not save christians; the Holy Spirit is not the One who saves; obedience to Jesus alone will save and is why Jesus said, “Why do you call Me Lord and do not do what I say” (Luke 6:46). The ‘works’ that many christians will do who will be rejected by Jesus will be works that the Holy Spirit empowered (prophecy, miracles, casitng out demons, etc.) otherwise, they couldn’t do them; those people will be rejected because they enjoyed God’s gifts (through the Holy Spirit) but rejected Jesus which we plainly see is possible in OT Israel when they came out of Egypt. Among christians, Jesus comes to be Lord and nothing less; the Holy Spirit does not come to be Lord, so when the Holy Spirit shows up with gifts and peaceful feelings, christians mistake it for God’s favor and are at ease and think they are saved while they are rejecting Jesus. Many of them will hear from Jesus (not the Holy Spirit), “I never knew you.”

    Now, since we prefer to talk about religion (doctrines and beliefs), social justice, and politics rather than to talk about the Lord Himself (for fear, like Israel at the mountain, that He will draw near and change our lives if we actually genuinely talk about and draw near to Him– Mal. 3:16-18), I thought I should share a video on politics– one that exposes a minor percentage of the many good things Trump has done (things that would disarm and confound most of his haters who don’t know the facts because Trump ‘talks a lot but says very little’). Trump doesn’t mention the good things he does, and the media doesn’t cover 99% of them. (Not mentioning the good you do– “When you give, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing”– is a normal function of ‘the gift of giver’ mentioned in Romans 12:6-8.)

    Trump is against illegal immigration and gangs like MS-13; the media crucifies him for it, but few people know his motives because of the media. Trump never defends himself by telling what his actual intentions are which is fascinating because it is almost 100% uncommon for a person who has good intentions to not defend themselves when falsely accused of having evil motives (but then Trump also can’t publicly tell everything). He doesn’t seem intelligent at times because of his personality, but he is very intelligent. He is the right man for the hour.

    The following 13-minute video, by an unbiased reporter, exonerates Trump a little from the many accusations floating around out there. The video by itself is enough to puzzle Trump-haters and make them wonder why the stories they hear about Trump are completely different (many former Democrats and liberals have switched sides after learning some facts about Trump). Fact is that many people are not accustomed to meeting anyone who is honest; when such a person shows up, we think they’re untrustworthy and liars like everyone else. We must always remember that God used Jehu– an outlier, a non-politician, and a rough-around-the-edges man like Trump– to utterly destroy Jezebel’s entire family and following which God wanted completely razed to the ground. This video shares some of the facts about the resistance marshaled against Trump and some facts about ‘the real Trump’:

  103. Snoopy It Is says:

    I came across a movie trailer an hour ago which I saw a few years ago. It’s based on actual accounts of satanic ritual abuse in a small town, but Hollywood did a brilliant job in the movie of telling everyone that satanic ritual abuse is real until the very end where the story changed and said ritual abuse is false (I won’t explain why it was brilliant; suffice to say it plays on people’s fears and then gives them permission to be in denial).

    I have a difficult time with christians who squabble about ‘ant-sized issues’ because there are ‘Goliath-sized issues’ out there which require a lot more attention. I visited a friend in Bellingham, WA in 2016 and while there learned that the entire town is owned by satanists. This isn’t uncommon. There are towns and small cities in the U.S. which are owned by satanists. Some small towns only allow satanists to be citizens. (‘The Oregon Trail’ that some of us read about in school– what really caused that community to move from the Eastcoast to the Westcoast? The history books won’t say this, but it was a community of occultists. The Eastcoast was populated by christians and catholics, and the occult community there decided they needed to find ‘a home of their own’ away from christians. They took off westward and settled in Oregon first. California and Washington, like Oregon, are satanic strongholds as well.)

    Visiting my friend in Bellingham, I found myself in a town where the christian ministers (and many of the christians) are mind-controlled by the satanists. The satanists demanded I leave the town or submit to their agenda in the christian churches there, or else they would abduct and kill me in a ritual by decapitation specifically. My friend started flipping out and had to go into a psych ward, but I chose to leave on my own time, because I know that if you submit to fear once, you’ll stay on a roll and will be running for the rest of your life (and will find yourself of little value to God’s Kingdom and agenda). God protected me from the Bellingham, WA satanists in 2016 as He had from the Rochester, NY satanists in 2006 (who tried to kill me by cardiac arrest– one of the occult’s favorites), and I left on my own time and in peace (and in one piece).

    The Bellingham, WA satanists (covens in Mt. Vernon up through Bellingham, WA and to Blain, WA on the Canadian border) control all the churches and ministries, some more than others. Light of the World Prayer Center along with its director, Jason Hubbard, and its leaders are some of their puppets whom I met, and the town overall is populated with amnesic satanic ritual abuse survivors or ‘slaves’ of the satanists. The following movie trailer (the whole movie is free on YouTube) is about a town riddled with multi-generational satanic ritual abuse. The detective who pursued the case was, in the end, abducted by the satanists and forced to become one of them on pain of death. He changed his story and said satanic ritual abuse isn’t real. (The movie shows that this happened but very subtly.)

    And the following video is worth a share and the entire series worth a watch. From the following video: “When the video of Hillary Clinton and her right hand, Huma Abedin, raping, torturing, mutilating, and killing a little girl comes out in the open, do not watch it. You will not sleep again.” These are the far greater issues on God’s heart and the underbelly of Europe especially all the British-influenced ‘colonies’ across the world– primarily the UK, the US, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada. But still, “judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes”. As this is such a big deal all across America, it’s important to do your own research and find the truth out for yourself:

    • Oh my goodness, the one on the left at the front looks just like one could imagine a satanic high priestess would look like.

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Which video are you talking about, and at what point in the video? Huma Abedin looks like a witch. Anyone with ASPD is a prime candidate for the occult. Unfortunately, the occult doesn’t sit around waiting only on ASPDs. Would be nice. There would far fewer satanists in the world.

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        Okay, I see: the one at front left.

        • That’s a stylised baphomet around her neck too, which Satanists love. That’s Prince Albert standing next to her, but that doesn’t look like his wife, Charlene. If anyone knows who she is, it would be interesting to know.

          • Snoopy It Is says:

            I haven’t researched those families, so I don’t know who Charlene or the wife is. As for the Ninth Circle thing, all the royal families are multi-generational satanic families. Most of them are victims (ie. survivors of ritual abuse) themselves. They don’t get to choose whether or not to be satanists. They only get to choose whether or not to remain satanists, but since they were bred as satanists from toddlerhood, the chances of them leaving are slim IF they enjoy benefits (like the wealthy ones). The ones who suffer are more inclined to leave. It’s an incredibly ugly way to start life but true to the principle that upbringing plays a greater part in the average person’s life than anything else.

            “Train up a child in the way… and when he grows up, he will not depart from it” is true for good AND bad upbringing just like “Whoever welcomes a righteous man… will receive a righteous man’s reward” is also true if you welcome/receive an evil person (you’ll be negatively affected because you opened your heart or/and home to them). Whenever the Bible declares something on one hand, it’s also true on the other side (and vice versa), like having a right and left hand. They are all-encompassing principles. So, when a person is from a satanic family, the person will be an occultist knowingly or unknowingly. No one from an occult family is special enough to be ‘exempted’ from ritual abuse and control. Eg. the Biltmore House in Asheville, NC is owned by the Vanderbilts (one of the top 13 Illuminati families), so you don’t have to guess whether or not it’s run by occultists. IT IS. When simple things are kept simple, then all of life makes better sense.

            Here’s an article by Snopes (Snopes is a major protector of satanists and satanism) that talks about and lies about the Common Court which connected the European family in your picture above with satanic and vile practices and with the Ninth Circle satanic cult: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hunting-license/

          • Snoopy It Is says:

            In spite of the fact that certain families are all under the indirect control of satan through the legal doorways of satanic ritual abuse (and mind control programming) and Trump may be one of these, evidence continually comes to light that God’s hand is on Trump. There are many different kinds of Grace (ie. a ‘measure’ or ‘dispensation’ of God’s favor), and one of many signs of God’s Grace on a person is if a.) the person has a strong sense of justice and also b.) the person’s presence or influence on his or her environment begins to ‘force’ hidden, dark, evil things to surface just as Jesus’s presence on earth forced demons to the unwillingly surface in people (“hidden things of darkness”) and also caused the religious leaders to unwillingly expose the wickedness hidden inside them (“reveal the counsels of the heart”). (1Cor. 4:5.) Trump’s presence in office is causing a ridiculously high amount of justice to unfold. When Trump calls Hillary and others “evil people,” he knows more than he can publicly state.

            This afternoon, a friend of mine in California emailed me. The following is the first paragraph:

            “There is a true story of 2,100 hundred children ages 3-17 in horrific horrible conditions and arrests made. Child Protection Services is Involved (very evil people) in CA and this is USA. Heard it was beyond evil and horrible. Continue to pray that the deep and dark and hidden secret things be revealed and God would continue to lift up their skirts– meaning ‘the satanist are winning’ especially if we don’t pray and you might wake up to communism and all your freedom’s taken away etc. Pray pray pray as if your life depends on it. I know people who have been working to get this exposed– all the child trafficking and child slavery, child prostitution– and are missing and/or dead and murdered. You can read about it in ‘Battle Hymn’ by John Scura/Dane Phillips. Better yet go interview and talk with them. And ‘The Planned Destruction of America’ by Dr. Wardner, also ‘Behold a Pale Horse’ by Milton William Cooper. They were murdered for telling and exposing evil, only a drop in the bucket, as so many others.”

            She is talking about the exploited and abused children who are allegedly being rescued by the military from underground areas around the U.S. (The rescues began a few years ago is smaller clusters by Navy SEALs.) I haven’t yet confirmed what is contained in the following 2-minute video which I got from another friend in Florida this afternoon as well:

        • A reverse image search relates this picture to “satanic ninth circle child sacrifice cult”.

          https://1drv.ms/u/s!AuW6huh9zhCJhfwlvVAwQzG6_ApZ-g?e=JpOIP0

  104. Yes, it is good to know that not everyone is pretending that this type of thing isn’t happening, or it isn’t important or relevant enough for them to do anything about it. For whatever reasons but usually directly or indirectly connected to selfish and uncaring attitudes.

    • Snoopy It Is says:

      Truth In Reality, the foremost reason why people– christians in particular– don’t want to acknowledge this realm of things is ‘unlove’ (ie. apathy and indifference) and ‘lovelessness’ (ie. a lack of love). 99% of christians will deny this and will justify and excuse themselves, but I was in a seminar in 2010 where God spoke to me, very briefly, on the subject of love, From then on, He has opened my eyes to the lack and loss of love among christians in particular, because God knows the world doesn’t have love; but He knows that christians have love and should not suppress it as they often do.

      1John 3 doesn’t spare any christian when defining what love and its counterpart– hate/murder– in fact is (it has nothing to do with emotions and feelings and smiles and goodwill). Verses 16-18 say, “This is how we know what love is: He (Jesus) laid down His life for us, and we also ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. If you see your brother (fellow believer) in need and close up your heart of compassion from him, how does the love of God dwell in you? My little children, let us not love in word and in tongue but in deed and in truth.” There, it says that when a christian sees a fellow christian, the love of God in him will be ignited or triggered but that the chirstian himself has to of his own free will suppress that love so that he doesn’t have to act on it. The KJV says in verse 17, “Whoso hath this world’s good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him…” Bowels (inmost places, the spirit which is saved) of compassion. The Bible tells christians to lay down their lives for each other but not for non-christians. christians refuse to do this, because they suppress God’s love in them. They do this based on self-centeredness and a refusal (lack of desire) to ‘share’ their lives and time with others.

      In 2010, in that week-long seminar in Thomaston, Georgia by Henry Wright’s ‘Be In Health’ (https://www.beinhealth.com/), I was enjoying all the truth and revelation that was being taught by the many ministers there… but I sensed that something was missing. (Everyone there sensed it. Our spirits are extremely intelligent and know many things we have no idea of.) God was nudging me, telling me to pay attention to what He wanted to tell me was missing. I ignored this for the first four days, trying to ‘have fun’ with everyone else. But on day four or five, I wouldn’t ignore the nudging anymore and said to God, “There’s a lot of truth, knowledge, understanding, wisdom here, and it’s like really good food for my spirit… But something is missing. What is it?” God speaks to those who are obedient and who want to do His will. When I asked Him that, He immediately answered with one word: “Love.” I immediately recognized it. The seminar was overflowing with good spiritual food– not milk or even bread but meat; it was like walking into an ancient cave filled with all kinds of jewels, gems, and precious metals, billions of dollars worth… but God’s Love was not there, not even one little drop.

      Only human love was in that seminar (not even the measure of phileo love not to speak of agape love). christians, especially in the West, are in total poverty when it comes to love. Here, when it concerns others outside of ourselves, we only understand ‘goodwill’ and ‘being nice’ but not love. Human love (nervous love) was present in abundance at that seminarq, but God’s Love was 100% nonexistent partially because Western culture rejects and is antithetical to God’s Love: Westerners are ashamed of God’s Love, especially if it was to flow through them to others, because love here is to flow from you (and others) to you alone. How ironic; God’s Love will do in one day what Western christians haven’t been able to accomplish in the last fifty years. The issue, when it comes to ritual abuse, is so common and widespread that even secular people have written articles and books about the lack of love among christians as regards survivors of ritual abuse.

      In one article, a secular couple writes, “We are writing as secular individuals, and are puzzled by the reluctance of the Christian fellowship to come to the aid of individuals alleging ritual abuse. Too often, we hear of cases where survivors feel abandoned and alienated from the clergy and the religious community. Instead of embracing survivors, supporting them emotionally and spiritually, and acting as their advocates, the Christian community and its leadership have often turned their backs on victims, even to the extent of supporting individuals alleged to be perpetrators of such abuse.” (http://fromtheinsideout.tripod.com/articles/ra/when-good-people-do-nothing.htm) In 2006 in New York, I saw the above with my own eyes. Let no one fool you and there’s no need to be ‘nice’ about it: the lack of love (as the Bible predicted) is the reason for all the neglect going on today where christians are concerned.

      • Totally agreed. Even among Christians, here is far too much superficiality and outward show, (self-) righteousness, pride, boasting, virtue signalling, love of the world and ‘society’, and accompanying judgmental and condemnatory attitudes, along with lack of Christian love, etc. In fact, just as the Bible tells us there was among many religious people at the time of Jesus and so there will be in the last days, 2000 years later.

        This is why it’s so essential to look closely at what God is really saying to us through the Bible. It is central to clearly understand that we are not saved by our own works, nor by our righteousness(es) (which are as filthy rags to God) but by the righteousness of God through His Son, Jesus Christ.

        “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.” (Gal 5:22-23 KJV)

        • Snoopy It Is says:

          What part of the world do you live in?

          Superficiality is commonplace in modern christianity. There are only two ways to approach God or really anything: honestly or dishonestly. Israel intuitively knew thousands of years ago that if they approached God honestly (ie. at Mount Sinai), then they couldn’t live life on their own terms. They chose to “worship from afar”. Modern christians also intuitively know that to follow Jesus is to lay down self-will. satan appeals to satanists and potential satanists on the basis of their desires: fame, money, power. But satan appeals to christians on the basis of their ‘needs’: comfort and convenience.

          As for today’s ministers, yes, the ministers of Jesus’s time were a forecast for today’s ministers. But before either age of ministers, the ministers of the Old Testament had the same exact problems which would forecast around 90% of ministers from that time on (from after the Fall) till the end. In Jeremiah 6:13-14 and Jeremiah 8:10-11, God states that He will destroy Jerusalem and everyone in it (a symbol of the Church with its ministers and christians). In chapter 6, the message is more targeted at everyone (all christians) while chapter 8 looks more targeted at ministers in particular. In both chapters, God states why He will destroy/punish Jerusalem and gives the same almost word for word about the ministers in particular but about the christians in general:

          “From the least of them even to the greatest of them (christians), everyone is given to covetousness; and from the prophet to the priest (ministers), everyone deals falsely. They have healed the wound of My people slightly, saying, ‘Peace, peace!’ when there is no peace.”

          In the following verse, God says of such christians, “They shall fall among those who fall. At the time I punish them, they shall be cast down.” How sobering. christians who turn their backs on God will be counted with every other unbeliever, pagan, occultist, murderer, and child molester; they’ll all be put in the same box. And worse, the coming judgment will come unannounced; it will happen “at the time I punish them”. And no one knows “the time”. Our works apart from God are dead; they can’t possible save because they are “as filthy rags” to God. Only those who are walking in the Spirit are exempted from the “law” (ie. condemnation). Everyone else– non-christian and christian alike– is subject to condemnation. As Galatians 5:23 says, “Against such, there is no [condemnation].”

  105. Snoopy It Is says:

    It’s ironic that the existence of local, national, and international satanic cults and networks first became public knowledge in the 1980s when ritual abuse victims and survivors suddenly began remembering their abuses and poured into therapist offices all around the U.S.– that the case that popularized the phenomenon began ‘underground’ and is now beginning to surface publicly.

    Starting in 1983, over five hundred preschool-aged children, all together, with corroborating testimonies alleged that the Buckey family– who were upstanding christians publicly– had sexually abused and tortured them along with other adults while wearing satanist robes. The Buckeys looked like normal everyday people. The children alleged that they were abused by the Buckeys and other adults in tunnels beneath the preschool and in other locations where they traveled via those tunnels. In spite of a mountain of ‘evidence’, the case was dismissed due to mysterious deaths on the side of the prosecution, death threats to some on the side of the prosecution, vanished witnesses on the side of the prosecution, dishonest defense team witnesses, and heavy media and Hollywood cover-up. The court dismissed the case because the tunnels were never found. The tunnels were found afterwards, but the courts refused to re-try the case. (http://www.religioustolerance.org/tunnels.htm)

    I got some emails yesterday, and it looks like satanist-controlled underground tunnels where children in particular (but adults as well) are abused and tortured (and programmed) are starting to become great again. The following 20-minute video is a good watch:

    And the following 30-minute video is a good listen. The guest is a man who has insider connections and mentions one of several rescues– this one of over 35,000 child victims of satanists from just one underground location in the U.S. It never made the news:

  106. Snoopy It Is says:

    I recently realized that I shared the wrong link to the McMartin Preschool case regarding the tunnels under the preschool in which the kids were abused and through which the kids were taken to other locations to be abused. The link I shared is to one of many articles that deny the allegations against the McMartin family of abuse, sexual abuse, and ritual abuse. (Many genuine articles on the case have been pulled or suppressed on the web while most of the first you will find deny any evidence of abuse at McMartin and of networked satanic groups.)

    The McMartin case is an excellent example of the fact that when it comes to digging up ‘hidden things’, one often has to persevere in order to break past the first layers or facades in order to get to the truth. After several different excavations for the tunnels that the children had said were under the preschool ‘turned up’ no evidence of tunnels, the parents of the abused preschoolers persevered until the tunnels were found with ground-penetrating radar. (The parents trusted their intuition. three and four-year-olds don’t make up fantastic lies nor do they start showing sudden signs of trauma (eg. bleeding private areas, sexually acting out at home, suddenly having nightmares, etc.) right after they began attending McMartin Preschool.) When talking about satanism, tunnels aren’t going to be at basement-level.

    Ellen Lacter is a psychologist in San Diego, CA whom I’ve talked several times to in the past. She is connected to the San Diego Ritual Abuse Task Force and was a part of the safehouses for ritual abuse survivors in CA. Her site has trustworthy information about ritual abuse and McMartin. The first link on the following page will take you to a very short and factual article about McMartin and its tunnels: https://endritualabuse.org/ritual-abuse-evidence-with-information-on-the-mcmartin-case/

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        To be expected. Probably at least one of the McMartins-Buckeys never recalled partaking in any abuse because all of them would be amnesic ritual abuse survivors themselves from multi-generational satanist families. It makes determining and finding guilt difficult in ritual abuse. (Isaiah 59 distinguishes an innocent survivor’s guilt from the guilt that satan lays against them since though innocent they are indeed partakers of “iniquity” or ‘abominations’ which causes them to be ‘disconnected’ from God so He often ‘cannot’ answer their prayers or deliver them from satanic bondage and the occult (ie. those who weave “the spider’s web”). Kim Campbell wrote about survivors being “sequestered off” from God; this is done by getting them to covenant with satan through oaths (“your lips have muttered perversity”) and perform violent and satanic acts against others (like killing babies and drinking their blood).) In the complex world of satanic ritual abuse where the innocent are guilty and the guilty are innocent– where good is bad and bad is good, where up is down and everything is backwards and upside-down– God is the only one who has all the answers and is able and willing to uncover every last minute detail necessary to make all the right judgments on each situation.

        Of course, we are currently in a prehistoric era as concerns any of the above. We can hardly judge what our eyeballs can clearly see, so going beneath the surface (and then traveling several more layers under the surface) isn’t currently anything more than a concept. For now, we must work with what we have which is basically a lie detector machine and the genius of human beings who weren’t present at the scene of the alleged crimes. But that’s just not enough. I’m convinced that even without wisdom and revelation from God about ritual crimes and organized crimes against children, God still provided a way to make the right judgments even without all the evidence. He made the provisions that enable humanity to make scientific discoveries and find cures to illnesses and solutions to problems in the same vein– and to ‘succeed’ at all these things without God’s direct intervention so that solutions don’t have to wait for godly people since God is a God of solutions (no matter who they come from). This is the most recent I got about the kids being rescued from underground areas: https://twitter.com/cherall1/status/1245811459172511748?s=07

        • If it’s true about the children in tunnels in NY, and it seems that it is, it is both terrible and wonderful at the same time. That this has happened in NYC should not be surprising to those who are familiar with the extent of evil that’s been going on there for decades in the horrific way they treat animals at the NYCACC (Animal Care & Control) including heartlessly ‘euthanising’ – killing – all ages of cats and dogs, many kittens and puppies of all ages, when with some will to do it, they could easily have been rehomed. While all around them people are squandering money on things they don’t really need.

          It does make perfect sense that this could happen and accords with what we believe about the Bushes, the Clintons and the Obamas, who must have known this was going on. Trump did say he wanted to clean up the White House, and that may well have been what he meant. That would also explain why so much hatred and derision has been directed at Trump – because they knew he wasn’t one of them. Their hatred for him was so extreme, as if they almost couldn’t help it, so it became suspicious and obvious there was a deeper reason for it.

          https://twitter.com/search?q=central%20park%20children&src=typed_query

          • Snoopy It Is says:

            I saw your video with the ship ‘Comfort’ on YouTube. I don’t know about the Central Park story yet, but I do know for certain that there are thousands of children in ‘underground’ (hidden) locations around the U.S. alone (and many more across the world– literally underground and in the homes of wealthy people and child-smugglers, on private estates and islands, and in other discreet environments). Many of these areas are out in solitary areas (eg. deserts, forests, etc.) while many of them are hidden in plain sight within cities and towns. The signs and evidence are all around if people cared enough or/and were aware enough to notice them. Everyone is so private that it’s nearly impossible for people to sense when a neighbor or church member or grocery store clerk or nurse at the hospital has a ‘side job’ (and most of them don’t look or act any different from everyone else).

            Sometimes people will dream about these children but will rarely know what they are seeing and will often shrug it off as a bad or strange dream. Other times, the Holy Spirit will prod a person to look closer at someone or a family or a child who they see on a routine or rare basis. But life is crammed with worries and cares and self-centered thinking, and it’s hard to recognize captive children when we see them or the signs that there are children who are ‘underground’ in the areas in which we live. Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped in Utah, USA many years ago, and her kidnapper took her out in public several times (because her mind control was strong and because satanism is very ‘present’ in Utah). Twice in public, Smart she cried out for help, at least once to a police officer standing nearby. Her kidnapper was able to convince everyone, including the officer, that Smart was his daughter and that nothing was wrong– all this in spite of the fact that the news of Elizabeth Smart’s kidnapping and her pictures were everywhere in that area, and the girl who was with the man looked like Elizabeth Smart.

            As for euthanizing pets, you have self-absorbed people and you then also have ‘spiritual sustenance’ for the enemy. christians say, “God inhabits the praises of His people.” God inhabits or ‘visits’ people, places, and areas that are holy or that are ‘good’. satan and his angels do the same on the counter side of things. Wherever you find sin, misery, anger/rage, sadness, pain, shame, injustice, and all the ‘negatives’ (or as some people call them, ‘low frequencies’), demonic presence will attend that person or place or even that time in history. The greater amount of ‘negative frequency’, the greater the demonic presence will be. Mental institutions, homeless shelters, and jails have a high negative frequency and are therefore cherished ‘haunts’ for the demonic. Killing/murder creates a negative frequency (or ‘vibration’ as New Agers call it), a frequency that can be higher if there are other dynamics like injustice, suffering, or mockery (like the Romans did Jesus) at play. Same for all sins and wrongdoing, some more than others. satanists are able to employ the extreme evil of occultism and ritual torture and rape in order to form spirtual ‘domes’ (that look like football coliseums) over cities and areas in order to keep out God’s Kingdom. This means that answers to prayers are harder to receive, revival and personal visitations from God are ‘held up’ more often than they should be, and believers who strive to assemble and carry out God’s will often instead face strong opposition: the abominations of occultism done on earth are populating the atmosphere with deeper darkness than happens with everyday sin or criminality. This is why there’s a natural feeling of clarity and peace in some places that are far from civilization (eg. a mountain, a wood, a forest, camping, hiking, a getaway, etc.). Daniel 10 is a good lesson here.

            The Clintons, Bushes, Obamas, and many more (Joe Biden, Pelosi, Schiff, etc.) attacked Trump because ‘there was something right with him’, not because anything was wrong with him. People who choose a godless life automatically hate people who choose a godly life. There are degrees to this: a godly life doesn’t mean the person is godly; it means the person has morals and maybe integrity (eg. Cornelius the centurion before he was saved and Spirit-baptized). And a godless lifestyle can range from self-centered living to ritual abuse satanism. Pharaoh wanted Israel in bondage; Joseph’s brothers wanted him dead; Herod and the religious leaders wanted Jesus dead; Herodias wanted John the Baptist dead; Jezebel wanted Elijah dead; so on. You can’t help it, and the more rebellious your heart is against God, then the more you automatically dislike moral and godly people (because you don’t know it, but in your subconscious mind, they remind you of God who you primarily hate/avoid). Trump does want to ‘clean up Washington’. Thank God for ‘good’ people like him who actually stall and detain God’s wrath through their active (purposeful) or passive (just being present) intercession (standing in the gap).

  107. Snoopy It Is says:

    The following three videos are related to the famous satanic ritual abuse case that I followed from 2015 but that had begun to go public in Hampstead, London around 2012: Alisa and Gabriel, siblings, alleged that their dad and many other adults had perpetrated sexual abuse, torture, satanism, and mind control on them and on other kids from their elementary school.

    Alisa and Gabriel (nine and eight years old at the time) told their mom, Ella, and her boyfriend, Abe, that their biological dad– Ricky Dearman, a B-movie actor and aspiring Hollywood actor– along with his side of the family had been abusing them since they were toddlers. The disclosure came while the family was taking a vacation in Morocco. Abe had caught the kids sexually acting out with each other and family pets several times before and in Morocco demanded that they reveal why they were acting that way. There are hours of video and audio from the ‘interviews’. The kids always corroborated each other– whether together or separated– down to which teachers in their elementary school were involved (all the teachers) and which parents were involved.

    Alisa and Gabriel also named (by name) seventy-two adults around Hampstead and Highgate who were business owners, public officials, public servants, and trusted members of society who were members of the satanic cult(s) that abused them. The abuses occurred in many places such as restaurants (usually after hours), public swimming pools (after hours), people’s homes, and centered around Christchurch Primary School and five other elementary schools in the area. The siblings also gave specific details such as the similar tattoos– and sometimes birthmarks or scars or warts– that all the cult members had near their privates. (By the way, Hampstead, London has more millionaires within it than any other area in the entire United Kingdom, and Highgate is one of the most expensive suburbs in London. All across the world, satanic ritual abuse thrives most among the rich and wealthy– among the upper-class, the upper-middle class, and the middle class.)

    Not only were the allegations heavily suppressed but no investigation was done on the alleged abusers (only Dearman was questioned and nothing more) and the cover-up was massive enough that police officers were sent to arrest Ella for making the story public, the BBC News aided in the cover-up, and Judge Pauffley who presided over the case (which never made it to criminal court) threw out medical examinations (which showed proof of sexual abuse of both siblings) and redirected the accusations to state that the alleged perpetrators were innocent of child sexual abuse but that supporters of the siblings were guilty of desiring to hear lewd stories about children. This ‘upside-down’ phenomenon is normal and customary for satanists everywhere who directly or through their puppets aggressively accuse innocent people of the very things they’re guilty of: eg. Hillary Clinton, Pelosi, Schiff, Schumer, and several others vs. Brett Kavanaugh, Trump, etc.

    The first video below may be hard to watch and is a short clip of a series of ‘interviews’ between Alisa & Gabriel and Ella & Abe (when the siblings say “plastic willies” they are talking about ‘dildos’); the second video is a clip of the BBC interview with Dearman or “papa” (he mistakenly implicates himself several times, drags his cult members under the bus with him so he doesn’t feel alone (only a narcissist would do that), and tries hard to shed tears); and the third video is several years after the British police coerced the siblings to retract all their allegations and gave custody of them to Dearman. Meanwhile, Ella was chased out of the UK and back to Russia, no one knows where Abe is, Belinda McKenzie & McKenzie Friends (primary advocates for the siblings) were discouraged and gave up, and Sabine McNeill (the strongest and most outspoken supporter of the siblings) was thrown in jail. Right now, this backward, completely upside-down, underground, illogical, evil counterculture seems to be coming more and more into the light.

    In the third video you can see Alisa and Gabriel with their dad Ricky Dearman at the very start of the video where he talks about their eBay business awards. The siblings don’t look well.

  108. Snoopy It Is says:

    I thought I should find the CBN video clip below. It’s a short interview with Nancy Dunn, a lady who grew up in ‘the average American satanist family’ (if you want to know what satanist families look like in the U.S., 99% of the time they look as normal and inconspicuous as everyone else).

    Dunn mentions “a wall or a ceiling” that separated her from God even after she became a believer. This is the same thing Kim Campbell writes about, saying that ritual abuse survivors are often led to Jesus by satanists only to have that connection “sequestered off”. It is one of the telltale signs of a ritual abuse survivor. If you have a friend or know someone who is a christian and seems sincere about having a relationship with God but seems to be unable to connect with God deeper than a surface connection, you are fairly likely to be talking to a ritual abuse survivor who can’t recall his or her abuse.

    In the OT, God gives very strict warnings about Israel’s involvement with anything connected to the occult. One of the main reasons why is because occultism creates “a wall or a ceiling”. It is “sin par excellence”; sin separates people from God, therefore, occultism creates an especially deep divide between a person and God. In Isaiah 59 are [hidden] facts about satanic ritual abuse in particular and occultism in general. (The Bible hides all kinds of wisdom about “everything we need for life and godliness”– everything that concerns humanity and existence– within its pages. Facts about ritual abuse– as well as God’s will for His people– can also be found in Psalm 23, Isaiah 49, Isaiah 58, Judges 5, 1Samuel 17, and all throughout the OT and NT.)

    First in Isaiah 59, Isaiah addresses the relationship between ritual abuse victims/survivors and God (vv. 1-3). Isaiah then talks about the occultists who perpetrate abuse on the victims (vv. 4-8). Isaiah next shares– from a ritual abuse survivor’s perspective– the experience of trying to ‘connect’ with God on deeper level (vv. 9-15a). Isaiah finally describes God’s feelings about the lack of help and support from His people for ritual abuse survivors and His plan to solve that longstanding issue (vv. 15b-20). In every ritual abuse survivor’s life, you will see the same principle (“The Lord’s hand is not shortened that it cannot save… But your iniquities have separated you from your God”) though it might be difficult to see this if the survivor is pentecostal or charismatic. Until enough deliverance is had, up to 99% of a survivor’s communion with ‘God’ can be with the occult spirits who make up “a wall or a ceiling” between the survivor and God.

    • Thank you. Will watch these and do some research with the mind to put together some sort of article or else reblog an article of an expert on the subject. Perhaps specifically looking at the wall of silence around SRA, and how perpetrators are able to escape justice. The fact is there too many people who are sympathetic and supportive to the satanic cause in our society, including in the church and judicial systems. It seems it is very difficult for victims to find people to listen to them and believe them, never mind help them.

      This child’s testimony is unforgettable. Not just what she says, but her face shows clearly she has been put through the most terrible things. Hope her story had a happy ending.

      • Pat Johnston says:

        I find it is so interesting your site is so afraid of Jezebels and witches, when Satan is in the White House and you fail to recognize it, you even defend him. Right now, lot’s of Americans are hateful and angry towards people. He wasn’t prepared or concerned and that cost American lives, even today. He is so arrogant, he attacks any Press that presses him for the truth, because he lies every day to Americans. Thank God for the free press to tell us the truth, unlike your site, which is apparently here to divert people from the Devil Trump and focus on the boogey men and women, who are under his control. In the middle of this pandemic, Trump fires two whistle blowers for telling the truth, the Captain for saving lives. In Galatians 2:1 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Trump has none of the fruit above, where all the other politicians you attack as worse then Trump, but show fruits of the spirit in abundance, especially Obama, who has all of them. Follow the Devil, fallen church and go to hell. Repent and follow Jesus and be redeemed.

        • We are not afraid of witches and etc. and we are not intimidated. We will have to agree to disagree. The internet is a big place and there are many places where you will find people who would agree with you. but clearly not here. No one here has been able to change your mind, so why do you keep trying to change other people’s minds?

          • Pat Johnston says:

            I don’t want to be somewhere where people agree with me and are not lost. I want to be in the middle of Trump’s delusion of the church. That is where the problem is, not in the remnant church, but in the fallen church. I’m here trying to minister the God’s Word to His prodigal church and warn to them of the punishment they will face if they don’t ask for forgiveness and reject the man of lawlessness. Like Jesus did, I go to help the lost. I go where God leads me and don’t ask why, just what is it that God wants me to share.

      • Snoopy It Is says:

        An article or blog about ritual abuse would be good. I’ve seen the above video many years ago. Her name is Theresa. Her mom said, “Children don’t make up elaborate lies.” Everyone knows that is fact. Only psychopathic and sociopathic children can lie at early ages, but they still can’t craft complex or detailed lies. satanists depend heavily on the fact that they are human and look like the rest of us in order to get by. All the places you’d expect to be safe– churches, hospitals, etc– are filled with them.

        The themes of ritual abuse are always the same (https://endritualabuse.org/kinds-of-torture-endured-in-ritual-abuse-and-trauma-based-mind-control/), and Theresa’s story– down to the wealthy home in the countryside and the drugged tramp/vagrant/homeless man– accords with the stories of thousands of survivors. In fact, postpartum depression is one of many ‘mental illnesses’ that is often connected to ritual abuse. A close and individualized look (ie. without bringing other people’s opinions into it) of postpartum depression can show that it is at least sometimes more than just some ‘disease’ as it’s called. Symptoms include “insomnia, loss of appetite, intense irritability, and difficulty bonding with the baby”. Interesting; all those are common among ritual abuse survivors. Is it possible that some of these women were forced to have babies when they were little, their babies were taken from them (killed, eaten, given away), and later in life after having a baby, their subconscious memories remain hidden as ‘pictures’ but surface as emotions? Happens all the time.

        The churches have the primary responsibility of addressing the satanism and ritual abuse issue. But the churches– a nation of cowards (delicate flowers, terrified of everything that is uncomfortable and inconvenient) and babies (self-absorbed)– won’t touch it with a 100-foot pole. So, God is using ‘good Samaritans’– people who are usually not christians (at least not ‘practicing’)– to bring the issue front and center. Moreover, God is and has been preparing believers who will meet the task head on (rather than screaming in terror about it) and face down the issue the same way that David faced down Goliath. It’s not glamorous; it just needs to be done. Many more ritual abuse victims/survivors will someday have the help and support they need.

        • The connection between women who have been abused and women who suffer postpartum depression could well be that the latter is a form of post-traumatic stress disorder. PTSD is something that women who have been abused would be likely to be already be suffering from and giving birth would be a massive trigger that would greatly amplify their existing condition. PTSD has a large element of not experiencing the world as a safe place which could be horrifically triggered with childbirth, particularly if there were unresolved ‘family issues’.

  109. We know with certainty that the media is very corrupt and dishonest and so, whether good or bad, Trump told the truth when he said this. We wouldn’t have heard the Bushes, Obamas and Clintons say anything like this as we know they are themselves party to that corruption.

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 6 Apr 2020
    “Thank you Gayle. I only wish the public could fully understand how corrupt & dishonest so much of our Lamestream Media is. My Press Conferences are vital. They are reaching millions of people that are not being told the truth, & haven’t been for years (Witch-Hunts, Fake News)!”

    • Pat Johnston says:

      You know nothing, except what the Trump machine says and blindly believes. Right now, he is once again trying to reassure us with BS. The public knows he is lying, because Dr. Fauci tells us the truth and it does not match up with what Trump says. The media is saving lives telling the truth, while the angel of death is dispersed from Trump’s mouth with each false hood, people die. All of our Presidents may have dishonest moments, but they did not lie all the time about everything. Over 16,000, so far. You have no business calling yourself Truth in Reality, when you operate in propagating the Lies of the Devil Trump. Past Presidents have bare good fruit, except this one, even ones I didn’t vote for, even my 3rd cousin Nixon was a pussycat compared to the Beast Trump. I don’t know who Gayle is, but she sounds, like one of Trump’s Cult promoting his lies and deception for which she will pay a huge price. There is Fake News and Witch Hunts on the conservative side and has been for years. That’s what hypocrites do scream fake news and witch hunt, while being the best at it. Let’s see which President demonstrates the fruit of the spirit, shall we. In Galatians 5: 22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Obama seems to fit best. Trump doesn’t fit one item.

    • Snoopy It Is says:

      Truth in Reality, who said you were scared of witches?

      Yes, the media is corrupt as is much of the U.S. Central Park in New York was built many years ago over a large plot of land that belonged to ‘second-rate citizens’ who were disliked by the wealthy people who lived in Lower Manhattan, New York. The wealthy people then castigated the people living in the area and started a smear campaign against them so that the rest of the New York city residents would approve a law to kick those ‘second-class citizens’ off their land in order to build Central Park. And that’s exactly what happened. A country established on corruption (not on Christ as so many say) will always be corrupt unless a total land reformation happens someday (the magnitude of 2Chron. 7:14).

      The news media outlets have been proven to be corrupt for many years. The CIA has admitted it. Thank God for Trump. The rats and creatures of darkness are enraged by the light he is shining on them. It’s good to see good things happening and good to see evil people confessing through their rage and disapproval– though very much unwittingly– that Trump is in fact ‘good’.

      • Guess who said this: “I find it is so interesting your site is so afraid of Jezebels and witches, when Satan is in the White House and you fail to recognize it, you even defend him.”