Personal Testimony of Holy Trinity Brompton

I attended Holy Trinity Brompton for the first ten years of my Christian life.  I believe it is where the Lord intended me to be, but I realise now that was in spite of the doctrinal errors that had crept in even then. For example while I was there I met a couple who taught me about the reality and eternity of hell, and from others I learned the importance of abiding in Christ.

I must also acknowledge that when I became a Christian at Durham University it was Nicky Lee, then a theological student and now the Associate Minister at Holy Trinity Brompton (HTB), who was instrumental in helping me take my first faltering steps as a Christian. Indeed, had Nicky not stood behind me when I responded to a call to come to the front of the mission meeting I attended on 14th February 1984, I may never have started out on the Christian life at all. The time and trouble he and his wife Sila took over me is something I will not forget, although I fear for them now.

When I became a Christian, HTB was presented as the church where God was really at work and I couldn’t wait to get there to find out for myself. What set HTB apart from the other evangelical churches I knew, was that the gifts of the Holy Spirit were openly taught and acknowledged. I attended my first Alpha Course in, I think 1988, and after that about 4 more. It was in 1989 that I made HTB my home church which I attended whenever I was in England; although there were frequent breaks since up until 1993 I was frequently stationed abroad with the Army. However, three aspects of the Alpha Course troubled me; the absence of any emphasis on repentance and the lack of teaching about hell: I recall on one occasion being invited to see Nicky Gumbel at his home to discuss his views on hell.

He sought to persuade me that hell was a place of annihilation following judgment and not a place of eternal conscious torment. I could not agree with him. Finally, Nicky failed to distinguish between the Gospel that was taught on the Alpha Course from the Gospel taught by Rome, claiming that what we had in common (the Creed) was far greater than what separated us (that the Bible is our final authority and salvation is by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone as opposed to salvation through works).

These weaknesses almost certainly stemmed from Nicky Gumbel’s aim (that was well known at HTB at the time) to repackage the Gospel to make it more appealing to today’s generation. Within Anglicanism there was undoubtedly an element of empty formality that needed challenging, but not by changing the goal posts of fundamental Gospel truth.

In July 1994 I left a prayer meeting at HTB, thinking to myself that I could never imagine being at another church because I was so happy there. However, the wind that was to sweep me from HTB had already started blowing in May of that year with the visit of Ellie Mumford to HTB to bring the so-called ‘Toronto Blessing.’ I was not at that service, but instead at the earlier communion service where I found myself weeping, although I could not explain why. Events, I believe, were to reveal the reason. After the next service the Toronto Experience dominated everything that was done for months to come, and I regret to say that I was caught up in the whirlwind. By August, I was beginning to have my doubts about Toronto.

One of my friends had gone out to Toronto and hadn’t stopped shaking since her return, to such an extent, that six weeks later she suffered a tear in the bowel which she put down to her shaking. Another friend who was helping with the children’s work had to be restrained from exhibiting extravagant gesticulations in front of the children and one of the Conference speakers, who had been in the military, had developed involuntary muscular twitches which he exhibited as he spoke. I did not want to go the same way myself. As a result of the counsel of a friend, now with the Lord, and further teaching at a prayer and Bible week at the end of August, I became convinced that the Toronto experience was not Biblical, but instead, came from another spirit just as Paul warned in 2 Corinthians 11:1-4. Returning to HTB, I felt like a complete stranger and knew I could no longer continue there.

The following weekend I attended a Day of Prayer for the Nation held at Stroud Green Christian Assembly in Finsbury Park. I discovered that the Pastor’s son in law was a lecturer at the Inns of Court School of Law which I was about to attend, and I was keen to meet him. It was arranged that I would go to the service and meet him for lunch. As soon as I arrived at the service, I knew I had come home spiritually. The worship was simple and heartfelt, and the sermon contained insights from God’s Word that greatly inspired me.

The next morning, as I pondered my situation, my daily Bible reading was from Ezekiel 12 about Ezekiel being told to separate himself from the rebellious house of Israel as a sign to them. It suddenly came to me that this was what I should do in relation to HTB. I therefore wrote to the minister, Sandy Millar, and later went to see him. At the end of our conversation he asked me to pray for the church and straight into my mind came the words, “Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and forever” – Hebrews 13:8. Therefore I prayed that HTB would be faithful to that same Jesus. When I returned home I looked up the verse and was amazed to read the verse that followed from this great statement of the unchanging nature of the Lord Jesus: “Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines.” (Hebrews 13:9)

HTB has changed a lot since I left in 1994 and the Alpha Course has taken off worldwide. Sadly the problems of the early 1990s have never been rectified and the fruit of the Toronto Experience has been an increasing lack of discernment and willingness to accept false teachers.

Raniero Cantalamessa – The Pope’s Preacher

This year at the church’s annual week away at an event called Focus, the line-up of speakers includes Raniero Cantalamessa, Papal preacher at the Vatican, who, in 2007 actually preached salvation through baptism from the pulpit at HTB. I refer back to the Article I wrote in CETF 42 where I drew attention to this extract of his first sermon:  “He found us in sin – lost. Through Christ, His Death and resurrection he saved us. Through the baptism he inserted us into salvation.”

We should not be surprised that this is what Raniero Cantalemessa teaches because this is classic Roman Catholic dogma contained in the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church at paragraph 1212:-“Through Baptism we are freed from sin and reborn as sons of God; we become members of Christ, are incorporated into the Church and made sharers in her mission: Baptism is the sacrament of regeneration through water and in the word.”

However, this is not the Gospel. The irony is this: when Nicky Lee explained the Gospel to me on 14th February 1984 it was the following verses that opened my eyes: “For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9)

It was the first time that I understood that salvation was not earned but is a gift. However, if salvation only starts at baptism, then salvation is not through grace, it is through the work of being baptised, and my faith in Christ’s death becomes but one aspect of salvation and not the whole. Paul warns us about such a doctrine of works in Galatians where, instead of making baptism a requirement for salvation like Roman Catholicism, the Judaisers had made circumcision a requirement instead but the effect is the same: it becomes another Gospel which is no Gospel at all. We are told to, “Beware false prophets” (Matthew 7:15).  We cannot join in evangelism with them, let alone allow them to preach to the Lord’s sheep which he has “purchased with His own blood.” (Acts 20:28)

Brian Houston – Senior Pastor of Hillsong, Sydney

Given HTB’s failure to emphasise repentance and its desire to appear relevant to the young, it is not surprising that they should team up with Brian Houston of Hillsong, who is a guest speaker at Focus in 2012. As a fellow Pentecostal it is a great sadness to me that I am unable to support this man’s ministry. It has had an almost viral impact upon congregations in Australia, New Zealand, the UK, France, Ukraine, the US and South Africa. Hillsong’s attraction is to the young professional and its message is a false message of prosperity in this life and heaven in the next.

Brian Houston, has also capitulated to the pressure to welcome Roman Catholicism with open arms. As National President of Assemblies of God in Australia, Brian Houston issued a press release which included the following misleading statement about Rome:

We pray too, that this papacy, like those before it, is marked by a commitment to seeing the Christian message continue to go forward and people changed by the power and truth of the Gospel. Obviously, as Protestants, our views are considerably different to the Pope’s on a number of issues however, we share a common desire to exalt Christ and serve our community to the best of our ability.  Brian Houston fails to point out that the Gospel of Roman Catholicism is not The Gospel of Jesus Christ. Rome believes in a gospel of works and not the gospel of grace alone, through faith alone, and in Christ alone. This has been Rome’s historic position which resulted in fearful persecution against those who resisted its false message of salvation down through the centuries.

Darlene Zschech, then worship pastor at Hills Christian Life Centre in Sydney, together with her Hillsong worship team, performed for the Roman Catholic World Youth Day in Sydney on 18th July 2008. Pope Benedict XVI was present and conducted papal mass on the last day of the extravaganza. Roman Catholic doctrine teaches that the mass is a continuation of Christ’s sacrifice. The consecrated host is alleged to become Christ himself and is therefore worshipped when placed in the monstranceand then in its own little tabernacle. Hillsong, led by Zschech, performed after the Stations of the Cross.  The 14 Stations allegedly depict Christ’s trial and crucifixion. Aside from the fact that this is not faith but sight and the pictures of Jesus are fictional and are forbidden by Scripture, several of the Stations are purely legendary. Jesus supposedly fell down three times, met Mary on the way to the cross, had His face wiped by a woman named Veronica, and was taken down from the cross and laid in Mary’s arms. None of this is supported by Scripture. The Pope promised a plenary indulgence to anyone who participated in World Youth Day. This is the forgiveness of the temporal penalty (referring to a penalty owed either on earth or in purgatory) due for certain sins and re-emphasises the works based gospel that Rome teaches. Hillsong’s compromise represents a betrayal of the Faith “once delivered to the saints.” (Jude 1:3-5)

Brian Houston and His False Prosperity Gospel

Brian Houston is the author of “You need more Money: Discovering God’s Amazing Financial Plan for Your Life”. In that book he writes: “Prosperity is definitely a result of applying God’s Word to your life. Why would He promise prosperity and success if He preferred us to remain poor?” In section two of the book he adds: “It’s God’s will for you to prosper”. In the second in a series of messages called “Prosperity on Purpose” he said that if he was writing the book again he would change the title but give the same message. At least this title leaves you in no doubt about the message, and it is unashamedly a message that encourages people to pursue financial prosperity. The distinguishing factor from the world’s pursuit of prosperity is that, according to Brian Houston, pursuing prosperity for God is different and apparently legitimate.

However, this is not what the Bible teaches. The Lord Jesus tells us that we cannot serve both God and money but that we are to seek first the Kingdom of God, we will be given what we need – Matthew 6:24, 33, and that where our treasure is, there our hearts will be also – Matthew 6:21. The effect of Brian Houston’s teaching is for the believer to expect to prosper financially as a reward of faithfulness, and for them to love this world. The purpose of that prosperity is that God’s Kingdom will advance. This is a half-truth. God does bless His people, but there is to be no expectation of material prosperity. One of the obvious places to see this is in the account of the Rich Man and Lazarus.

Lazarus spent his life as a beggar with nothing, yet he had saving faith and went to heaven where he received his reward (see Luke 16). The Rich Man had everything in this life but used his wealth to indulge himself.

The great heroes of the faith are set out by the writer to the Hebrews in chapter 11 as an example and encouragement to us. A summary of their sufferings is contained in verses 35-38 which includes “being destitute”. (Hebrews 11:35-38)

The mark of Biblical faithfulness is often poverty. John Cook was just such a man. He prosecuted Charles I and rose, under the Commonwealth, to be Chief Justice in Ireland where he brought justice and mercy to many poor tenants who were oppressed by their wealthy landlords. He made many enemies as a result of his just judgments. Just prior to the restoration of the monarchy this faithful Christian was betrayed, imprisoned executed and his lands forfeited. This has been the lot of many Christians. We only have to look at the circumstances of Christians in countries such as Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Laos and Nigeria to mention but a few where destitution and death is are commonplace for Christians. Poverty may seem a long way off for Christians living in the West but even here Christian faithfulness often comes at the expense of financial prosperity.

According to an article in the Sydney Morning Herald published on 30th January 2003, Brian Houston lives well beyond the means of most church pastors: “He owns an enormous house overlooking a bush valley, in a suburb of other enormous houses, at Glenhaven. He also owns a picturesque spread on the Hawkesbury River, near Windsor, just west of Sydney, gets paid handsomely to speak overseas and is a property developer.”

It might seem churlish to judge a person merely by the size of their house, although one might question the example such exhibition of wealth sets his flock. However there have been many fine Christians through the years with great wealth that they have used for God’s Kingdom. The real problem is that, according to the same article, “the vast majority” of Brian Houston’s money comes from overseas speaking engagements at other charismatic churches as well as royalties from the “Christian resources” set out at the front of the church, accumulating vast wealth from royalties and other dividends. This strongly suggests that Brian Houston has used his position of Christian leadership for huge personal gain. 2 Peter 2:3 specifically warns us about false prophets who will exploit the people of God for their own ends.

Paul instructed Timothy to withdraw from those who teach that gain is godliness, and to “flee these things” – 1 Timothy 6:11 and instead exhorts us to be content with godliness which is truly great gain. It is true that, in his series, “Prosperity on Purpose”, Brian Houston acknowledges the dangers of being rich and that it is possible to be poor and happy (as in the case of the Macedonian church in 2 Corinthians 8:2.  However, he does not seem to acknowledge the obvious contradiction of these positions and one may be forgiven for thinking that he only mentions the scriptures that contradict his philosophy that God wants to make his people rich because he has no choice, but not in order to change his overall message which is that God intends His people to prosper financially in this life. The fact is that finding the pearl of great price demands that we give up everything to possess it.  (Matthew 13:46)

I would be surprised if Nicky Gumbel bought into the prosperity gospel that Brian Houston promotes but I suspect he may have been dazzled by the apparent success of Hillsong within the Western World. By inviting Brian Houston to speak at Focus 2012 Nicky Gumbel is inviting a false teacher.

Final Warning

It is very sad that Nicky Gumbel has been deceived and, as a result, he continues to deceive others, just as Paul warns , “But evil men and imposters shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived” – 2 Timothy 3:13.  It is a profoundly sobering lesson that charming and obviously well-meaning men like Nicky Gumbel should be condemned as evil by introducing false teaching into the church. However there are strong warnings in scripture against changing the terms of the Gospel. Consider Revelation 22:18-19: “If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”

Nicky Gumbel has allowed teachers into his church who, according to Roman Catholic doctrine, defined the means of salvation as including reliance upon good works (including baptism, confession and the mass), so adding to the word of God. He has also, along with John Stott and others, redefined hell as a place of annihilation and not of eternal conscious torment and so subtracted from the Word of God. I fear very for much for him. At the same time there is a great need to reach today’s youth and HTB and Hillsong are to be commended for their concern for the young, the prisoners, the third world and all the others that they are trying to reach.

The concern with HTB is not the intention of reaching the lost for Christ which is admirable and Godly. Nicky Gumbel’s endeavours to present the message in a contemporary way are commendable provided the message itself remains unchanged. However the reality is that the message that they are bringing is a corrupted gospel which is counterproductive, because without true repentance from our dead works there is no salvation. Let us not forget that the angels in heaven rejoice over one sinner who REPENTS – Luke 15:4-10.  Along with repentance comes a realisation that it is only by dying to the Old Nature and putting on Christ that we can live godly lives and this is a daily sacrifice which is why we become strangers and pilgrims in this world looking for a better City to come.

The message to those planning to go to Focus 2012 must be to think again about the direction of their Christian lives and to return to the pure milk of God’s Word by joining fellowship with those who preach the truth and contend earnestly for the faith once delivered to the Saints – Jude 3 and 2 Corinthians 6:14-16 are important verses in this context for they instruct true believers to separate themselves from those who have compromised the faith. We must remember to pray earnestly for Nicky Gumbel, Brian Houston, Raniero Cantalamessa and for the many that have been deceived by their false messages.

Finally we should pray for each other that, in making our stand, we neither overlook a beam in our own eye, or fall just when we thought we were standing.

by Mark Mullins


Further information:

What is the Alpha Course
Alpha Course – Final Answer or Fatal Attraction
Alpha Course – New Life or New Lifestyle
Is the Popular Alpha Course Leading People Astray
If You Do The Alpha Course It Could be the Omega of You
An Assessment of Nicky Gumbel’s Gospel
Alpha Course Examined
Alpha Exposed
Falling for the Lie – The Charismatic Deception

Modern Heresy Timeline – The Flow of Current Heretical Beliefs
We All Fall Down – An Investigation into ‘Slain in the Spirit’
Invalid reasons for staying in a church teaching false doctrine
Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing In KJV Scripture
The Toronto Blessing – Testimonies
The Great Falling Away Today
Your Church Babylon Or Zion?

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18 Responses to Personal Testimony of Holy Trinity Brompton

  1. jupeter24 says:

    Hi, this is awesome. Thanks for sharing this. I recently (10 months ago) came out of a false movement myself (Bethel church, Redding, Ca) although I did also attend Alpha, many years ago at an Anglican church (in Newport Beach, Ca)

    Thanks for pointing out the error. It’s good to see from another perspective.

  2. Skyhiker says:

    HTB has announced that both Joyce Meyer and Raniero Cantalamessa will be speakers at the 2015 Leadership Conference….am truly having difficulty with this. I used to see Joyce Meyer as a false teacher (dare I say heretic?). Still learning about Raniero Cantalamessa.

    • jes says:

      Could you explain to me what exactly it is you don’t like about Joyce Meyer? I have Just left a first time service with HTB and found myself wanting to run. I did not feel the Spirit of God there. If anything I felt him tell me to run and that something is not right.
      After reading this article, It all makes sense.

  3. Thank you Mark for your dissertation on error(S) within the church.
    To be constructive in replying, having been a follower of Jesus Christ now for over 50 years, I am more convinced than ever the importance of hiding God’s Word in my heart. The result I have discovered is that error in ‘teaching’ and ‘practice’ will be exposed.
    Take, for example what the Apostle Paul writes to encourage us in Galatians 1 – his life, thinking action was founded and centered on his Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
    The challenge I face everyday is, am I fulfilling God’s call on my life, sharing the gospel, in the Art World where I have been working for the past 40 years? When I share Christ crucified to sinners,there is not much room for error.
    Be encouraged – let’s take the initiative and present Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour to those we meet whenever the opportunity arises.
    Yes, we’re on a mission and have a wonderful message summed up in – grace – a free gift; man – all have sinned; God – who is love and yet is a God of justice; Christ – His life,death and resurrection; faith – transfer of trust in Him.
    with warm regards
    Austin McCracken

    • Austin McCracken says:

      Am pleased to re-read what I had written almost four years ago. Since then my wife, Elsie, of 51 years, passed into the presence of her Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ. Elsie having suffered from Alzheimer’s for 14 years and for whom I had the privilege and joy of caring for her at home, 24/7.
      Romans 15 v13 was a wonderful encouragement all of the time.
      May the God of Hope, fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in Him so that you may overflow with Hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.
      Austin McCracken
      Erin Lodge
      Donaghadee
      Northern Ireland
      BT210BW

  4. NN says:

    Visit thelastreformation.com

  5. Joseph King says:

    “Christians” of course, hate and despise anyone [i.e. 4 out of 5 members of the human race} who disagrees with their fanciful, fantastical, palpably delusional worldview,but it’s startlingly apparent how truly, madly, deeply, each of the numerous Christian sects still loathe EACH OTHER and that their millennium-long civil wars will never be resolved until this dismal religion is just a curious footnote in history. {Coming soon to an unattended Church ..er .almost everywhere}..

  6. Jon says:

    I first went to HTB in 1984 and loved the singing. I was very blessed at that time and super sensitive to spiritual things going around me. I knew that God was greater than anything and could sense his presence powerfully every day. As a visitor, I remember stepping into HTB and enjoying singing “Isn’t He” and feeling a sense of relief that christians could worship God so freely. Its sad to say that the only good thing I remember about HTB was the new type of singing. Apart from that I’ve never been impressed by any of the preachers there. I always found them to be devoid of truth and very far from the Spirit’s burdens.

  7. Anne Goulder says:

    Sadly you have completely misunderstood the Catholic position on Baptism – your views are simplistic.
    Jesus was baptised so we are obediently following His example as was the case in the early church long before the New Testament was ever written.
    Catholics believe that through Faith and the grace of the sacraments we grow to become more and more Christ-like.
    The most important thing is that He gave the Holy Spirit TO HIS CHURCH to lead it into all Truth
    The Catholic Church teaches exactly what the Apostles taught from the beginning and the Catholic (universal) Church after three years of formation by Jesus and importantly it is the only Church which is actually obedient to Jesus’s command to “Eat His Body and Drink His Blood” in the form of bread and wine.
    In His day this teaching was too difficult for many and so it is today, but for those who have been baptised and who have His Holy Spirit in them, obedience to this command is non-negotiable.

    It should be remembered that the New Testament was written by “Catholics” (Jesus told them to “Go therefore and teach ALL nations” This is where the word Catholic is derived from-UNIVERSAL) and was never meant to be a stand-alone manual for Christian living but was always used in the context of the handed-on and established traditions of the early church community.

    I find it strange that so many Christians of other denominations are so unaware of the facts of the early Church and base their beliefs on such false premises.

    Read the early Church Fathers

  8. Catherine Robinson says:

    Just sitting down to write my OU assignment on Tradition & Dissent in English Christianity. Had looked up Sandy Millar, after he was mentioned in this morning’s Bible In One Year app by the Gumbels, as I have fond memories, and came across this blog article. I left the Jehovah’s Witnesses aged 15, and, through a conversion experience in a small Church of Ireland church, due in part to family members in HTB praying for me, finally attended the London Alpha in 1993, found Christ, left Spiritualism. It took longer to recover from the false teachings of JWs than the instant recovery from Spiritism. I really appreciate the author’s writings, and thoroughly understand where he’s coming from. I certainly have reservations re recent Hillsong events. However, I think, feel and theologically believe, that this is all too simplistic and, therefore ultimately, unfair on NG as well as above comments on Joyce Meyer, though we ourselves are experiencing straightened personal finances and serious illness. Basically, the Lord Jesus Christ, and His gospel are BIG, though His path is very narrow, and, therefore, I do believe NG and Joyce Meyer are wholeheartedly obedient followers of Christ – not false teachers.

  9. So please let us know where in the Bible Jesus has said that it is acceptable to make a massive fortune out of teaching people self-help psychology which does not correspond to what the Bible says. Then to spend the profits on a very lavish lifestyle when we are told not to build up treasures on the earth but for heaven.

    When it says in the Bible to buy the truth and sell it not and etc., that seems to be far away from being an obedient follower of Christ.

    This doesn’t line up with the Bible which tells us to take up our cross, to conform to His image, to do as we would be done by and what we do to others we do to Christ, and the many other such things the Bible tells us.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=joyce+meyer%27s+lavish+lifestyle&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&ie=utf8&oe=utf8

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  11. Jared Taibi says:

    God bless you for sharing this Mark. Thank you for being brave to declare the truth. We live in the worst of times and deception is widespread. I find very few who actually want to follow and know Christ Jesus as their Lord. Many claim to know Him but by their deeds deny Him, and put Him to open shame with their sin.

    Sounds like HTB is part of the broad path and false church system.

    Matthew 7:21-23 NKJV
    [21] “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. [22] Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ [23] And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

  12. Bobbi says:

    Thank you so much for sharing this. I am searching for an answer about htb. I feel something is not right. I can not explain it. You articulated it. 5 solaes. I will pray for you, that God will protect His true servants.

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  14. Michael says:

    The whole Gospel of Prosperity thing is a wicked sham and a con trick. John Calvin always vigorously denied that riches were any sign whatsoever that someone was saved.

  15. Marko says:

    I was searching the internet for resources for my church’s forthcoming house group meetings. The HTB website was recommended to me and it was during that search that I came across Mark’s “truthinreality” website, here. What I have read here concerning HTB, Nicky Gumbel and others has surprised me somewhat. I have no criticism of Mark: rather, he is to be commended for raising his concerns. But, I also don’t have any criticisms of HTB, Nicky Gumbel and others as I write here, as I am not (yet) fully informed of all the issues herein mentioned as being in contention. Crucially, I don’t have the “other side’s” response to the issues raised.

    I undertook the Alpha course some years ago and I felt quite favourably disposed towards it, my only criticism being that it was a little bit intellectually challenging for the “ordinary person in the street”. I don’t have any special expertise in theology, doctrine or scriptural translation, so I cannot provide too much of a face-value opinion one way or another as to the then, and now the present, teachings of HTB, Nicky Gumbel and the other people that Mark has presented in his script above, or even to Mark’s own opinions. I do, however, believe that it is right to challenge teachers of the Word/ Scripture (whether you want to call them vicars, ministers, priests, pastors, elders, etc, etc) when we feel they are heading away from scriptural authority, just as Mark has felt the need to do here.

    I quite often have difficulty in understanding what Scripture says to me, even when a Teacher of the Word may have provided explanation by way of sermon, reflection, etc. One Teacher may interpret one way, another Teacher some other way, or so it seems to me (perhaps I’m the one in the wrong). So it seems to a simple-minded person like me (!) that if I’m unsure about what a Teacher is saying about the Word, and how I should live my life in the Word, then I would do well to simply go into a quiet room, open the Bible, and to pray to the Holy Spirit to help me to understand and discern what the scriptural reading means. After all, the Holy Spirit is given to us by God to keep us right – and there is nothing/ no-one more pure, knowledgeable, powerful and loving than the Holy Spirit in God. None of man’s interpretations/ explanations can ever approach the whole unadulterated Truth. So why settle for second best?!

    So, whilst I can respect the viewpoints and efforts of my fellow men and women to help me understand the Word of Scripture, I consider that I would do well not to fully rely on their teachings or explanations or stances, whether they be adjudged in human terms to be a true teacher or a false teacher.

    Let me repeat myself here before closing: I don’t seek to make any negative criticism of Mark, HTB, Nicky Gumbel or the other people mentioned in Mark’s script above. As the current Pope said in all sincerity and humility not so long ago when he was presented with a contentious doctrinal question on an aspect of human morality: “Who am I to judge?”

    Thank you for allowing me to put forward the above comments.

    Marko

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